HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #91: 2025 Trade Deadline edition

[MarkovsKnee]

Last thread hit 3k. Time for a new one.

The Trade Deadline is officially one week away!

Anything going to happen?

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[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Evans and Armia pretty much need to move.

You cant re-sign them and the way it's set you're running the same team back with the addition of Demidov and maybe 1 free agent.

Dvorak not being moved is meh. He's going to retun a 5th and that's retained, too

Savard returning a 4th, or a 5th is no good.

If you get offered a 3rd you trade him. You can find a depth dman on waivers, or help facilitate a trade by taking on a bad dman that a team wants to ship out and get another pick. I'm sure teams would be glad to deal a 4th in 2027 with a low end dman done at the end of the year.

 

[Benstheman]

We’re in no mans land. I say baring an overpayment, we keep our guys. The only thing that make sense is Armia + Evans for a solid prospect RHD or center. But those trades never happen so…

 

[waitin425]

@MarkovsKnee you had a chance to call it the "Hoes Mad Edition" and you missed the boat!

 

[Hannibal]

I expect Evans and Armia gone. We need the cash in on that.

Dvo and Svard will stay.

 

[waitin425]

We’re in no mans land. I say baring an overpayment, we keep our guys. The only thing that make sense is Armia + Evans for a solid prospect RHD or center. But those trades never happen so…

They never happen but it is my dream.

Evans + Engstrom + Calgary 1st

for

Nemec

Sign Bennett in off season

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Laine - Bennett - Demidov
Heinemen - Dach - Newhook
Anderson - Beck - Armia
Gally

Guhle - Nemec
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Carrier

Trade Matheson in off-season

 

[yianik]

The team has just won 3 in a row and within 5 points of a wild card spot.

Second round picks on average give you a 1 in 10 shot of a good player, maybe 2 in 10 of a bottom player. We'd get late 2nds.

So for me 3rd rounders and later id just keep the player to keep moral up as the boys dont need us just tossing in the towel. Have to say, even a late 2nd doesnt do it for me and I'd just keep Evans even if hes walking. Let them get some experience fighting for a spot.

Kind of funny we hear all this trade talk surrounding Evans, all this demand from several teams , all for a 2nd ?

 

[waitin425]

The team has just won 3 in a row and within 5 points of a wild card spot.

Second round picks on average give you a 1 in 10 shot of a good player, maybe 2 in 10 of a bottom player. We'd get late 2nds.

So for me 3rd rounders and later id just keep the player to keep moral up as the boys dont need us just tossing in the towel. Have to say, even a late 2nd doesnt do it for me and I'd just keep Evans even if hes walking. Let them get some experience fighting for a spot.

Kind of funny we hear all this trade talk surrounding Evans, all this demand from several teams , all for a 2nd ?

I'd only trade Evans in a package for the right RD at this point. Nemec.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

The team has just won 3 in a row and within 5 points of a wild card spot.

Second round picks on average give you a 1 in 10 shot of a good player, maybe 2 in 10 of a bottom player. We'd get late 2nds.

So for me 3rd rounders and later id just keep the player to keep moral up as the boys dont need us just tossing in the towel. Have to say, even a late 2nd doesnt do it for me and I'd just keep Evans even if hes walking. Let them get some experience fighting for a spot.

Kind of funny we hear all this trade talk surrounding Evans, all this demand from several teams , all for a 2nd ?

Just recently our 2nd round picks have landed us Lane Hutson,Owen Beck and Oliver Kapanen so pretty sure every 2nd round pick counts and worst case scenario u package them to move up like we did to grab Hage

This is not a playoffs team Habs need to move Armia and Evans but they can keep Savard and Dvorak they wont be worth enough

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Listening to 32 thoughts on headphones that don't suck and you can hear Friedman making those old man mouth noises before he goes to speak

 

[yianik]

I'd only trade Evans in a package for the right RD at this point. Nemec.

I have floated that around as well. I'm no talent evaluator but if its felt he has top pair potential, then Evans, Anderson ( they want size and grit with some secondary scoring I read ) and the Calgary 1st if need be.

 

[Scriptor]

Just recently our 2nd round picks have landed us Lane Hutson,Owen Beck and Oliver Kapanen so pretty sure every 2nd round pick counts and worst case scenario u package them to move up like we did to grab Hage

This is not a playoffs team Habs need to move Armia and Evans but they can keep Savard and Dvorak they wont be worth enough

They don't need to 'move' anyone and, no, its not bad asset management, at this point, if they don't get draft picks at any cost.

Keeping Evans and Armia, which are the only two that might be traded, and losing them for nothing is like an acquisition for the development of the younger players at the NHL level to end off the season, not necessarily a move made because they think they will make the playoffs per se.

Right now, staying 5 points out of the playoffs as long as possible is still meaningful games.

Doubt we make it into the playoffs as seen after winning three consecutive games and not making up any ground for a playoff spot.

Those multiple teams ahead of us are playing each other to end out their seasons and, some losses for one team will just mean a win for another team we are chasing.

 

[vokiel]

Trade anyone who's going to be UFA for 2026 picks, don't care much what it'll take or what we get.

 

[yianik]

Just recently our 2nd round picks have landed us Lane Hutson,Owen Beck and Oliver Kapanen so pretty sure every 2nd round pick counts and worst case scenario u package them to move up like we did to grab Hage

This is not a playoffs team Habs need to move Armia and Evans but they can keep Savard and Dvorak they wont be worth enough

Yeah, I mean outside of the top 6-7-8 the odds are against you picking a talented player and they go down from there. By the time you are picking in the last part of the 1st round it may be a 20 % chance of a good player. But you still need picks and the higher the better and the more you have the better it is.

All Im saying is we have reached a point where if we unload the UFAs we have, it will no doubt cause us to drop in the standings. These guys get we are rebuilding but they are tired of losing and for purposes of development, i think the value of mid round picks and later, just isnt worth the loss of the boys learning how to fight for something bigger than just winning a single game. It will also signal the turnaround , which again is important, see Buffalo.

At this point the only UFA guy who appears to get us anything of value is Evans, and thats just a 2nd. Again, just balancing development.

 

[DAChampion]

Just recently our 2nd round picks have landed us Lane Hutson,Owen Beck and Oliver Kapanen so pretty sure every 2nd round pick counts and worst case scenario u package them to move up like we did to grab Hage

This is not a playoffs team Habs need to move Armia and Evans but they can keep Savard and Dvorak they wont be worth enough

All of that true, but I also think that winning more games down the stretch may help the current young roster develop just a little better.

On the other hand, if the Habs get worse, it's not just the extra 2nds, it's that the 1st rises from a 12th to a 6th, or something.

 

[NeptunesTrident]

I agree that trading roster players for marginal picks would send the wrong message to the boys in the dressing room. But the worst team in the league took them to OT before they won, so I wouldn’t hang my hat on that either. I think if it’s a hockey trade that improves the roster Hughes will pull the trigger, otherwise he will stand still. Too many teams are still in it.

 

[DAChampion]

The total calculus is as follows.

The Habs can trade Dvorak, Evans, Armia, Savard, and get back a return of approximately four 2nd round picks. The Habs get worse and the 1st pick lands in the 5-8 range rather than the 10-14 range, which also helps keep Calgary out of the top ten. Mailloux (or Trudeau, or Engstrom) and Roy likely get some NHL time.

Or ...

The Habs win a few more games, which is better for the development of the young players currently on the roster, and sends a message of support to a roster that is competing and trying to win.

 

[therocket9]

Young center trade target Kasper for Evans and Matheson....Young D trade target Dobson probably off season for Dach Mailloux and Calgary 1st.....Veteran trade targets in Calgary Kadri and Andersson.

 

[Deebs]

The total calculus is as follows.

The Habs can trade Dvorak, Evans, Armia, Savard, and get back a return of approximately four 2nd round picks. The Habs get worse and the 1st pick lands in the 5-8 range rather than the 10-14 range, which also helps keep Calgary out of the top ten. Mailloux (or Trudeau, or Engstrom) and Roy likely get some NHL time.

Or ...

The Habs win a few more games, which is better for the development of the young players currently on the roster, and sends a message of support to a roster that is competing and trying to win.

There's benefits to both scenarios.....decisions, decisions for Kojack

 

[badfish]

Listening to 32 thoughts on headphones that don't suck and you can hear Friedman making those old man mouth noises before he goes to speak

Not in the mood for Elliotte Friedman ASMR, thank you

 

[Rapala]

The team has just won 3 in a row and within 5 points of a wild card spot.

Second round picks on average give you a 1 in 10 shot of a good player, maybe 2 in 10 of a bottom player. We'd get late 2nds.

So for me 3rd rounders and later id just keep the player to keep moral up as the boys dont need us just tossing in the towel. Have to say, even a late 2nd doesnt do it for me and I'd just keep Evans even if hes walking. Let them get some experience fighting for a spot.

Kind of funny we hear all this trade talk surrounding Evans, all this demand from several teams , all for a 2nd ?

Not good enough in recent seasons both Detroit and Buffalo were in closer proximity than we are and did exactly that... nothing.

Both teams crashed. If as you say the picks are so useless then we need to spend some because we have a boatload of later picks. This roster won't get us to a WC position as is without some added beef.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Listening to 32 thoughts on headphones that don't suck and you can hear Friedman making those old man mouth noises before he goes to speak

You should hear me get up from the couch ! I usually make it by the second try

 

[WeThreeKings]

Evans and Armia package will go.. and I wouldn't put it past them to maybe help facilitate some other deals by taking back a pending UFA or two (at forward) for future considerations or getting a future 7th, just so they don't have to pilfer Laval.

 

[salbutera]

They don't need to 'move' anyone and, no, its not bad asset management, at this point, if they don't get draft picks at any cost.

Keeping Evans and Armia, which are the only two that might be traded, and losing them for nothing is like an acquisition for the development of the younger players at the NHL level to end off the season, not necessarily a move made because they think they will make the playoffs per se.

Right now, staying 5 points out of the playoffs as long as possible is still meaningful games.

Doubt we make it into the playoffs as seen after winning three consecutive games and not making up any ground for a playoff spot.

Those multiple teams ahead of us are playing each other to end out their seasons and, some losses for one team will just mean a win for another team we are chasing.

I very much agree with the post but the highlighted is incorrect - Habs have gained 1pt on 2nd wildcard spot & 2pts on 1st wildcard spot.

As I previously posted, Habs could be sitting 3 & 5 pts out respectively from wildcard spots on Saturday night assuming Det/CBJ game is not a 3 pointer & Habs win over Buf

As for Evans / Armia, a late 2nd rounder is not better asset management than keeping them and helping develop 53% of this roster that is part of the long term solution and need to experience high intensity March / April games

 

[yianik]

Not good enough in recent seasons both Detroit and Buffalo were in closer proximity than we are and did exactly that... nothing.

Both teams crashed. If as you say the picks are so useless then we need to spend some because we have a boatload of later picks. This roster won't get us to a WC position as is without some added beef.

Not saying the picks are useless, just that there are other considerations.

This has to be the last season of not being buyers.