HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #90: 2024-2025 season part III

[larryb]

With last nights injuries to miller and Fox perhaps the rangers are willing to make the following trade

Gabe Perrault for mike matheson

 

[SakuKoivu11]

If Edmonton calls ask for Montembault and Savard for Skinner and 2026 first round pick, would you do it?
Considering Monty is French local boy.

 

[Sterling Archer]

With last nights injuries to miller and Fox perhaps the rangers are willing to make the following trade

Gabe Perrault for mike matheson

In a wet dream maybe.

 

[Scriptor]

Honestly if that's the ask, I'm sure Hughes is ready to sign but is bluffing left and right to get it down to 4 years.

Evans at 4M X 4 would be like signing Armia with a premium because Evans is a C. It could potentially be as much of an overpaid contract as armies contract was. During the early years of a rebuild, that's fine, but at the end of a rebuild, not so much.

I'd rather go 3.5M X 5, than 4M X 4. Cheaper per season is easier to move if you have players outperforming Evans as his contract wears on.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I'd trim that number and give him more term. $3.5-$3.75 for 6 or 7 years.

Players like Evans don't hurt you, especially when the cap is going up as much as it is.

 

[sampollock]

I'd trim that number and give him more term. $3.5-$3.75 for 6 or 7 years.

Players like Evans don't hurt you, especially when the cap is going up as much as it is.

? is...... can the habs find a centre for 3.5/4 mill to replace him
or
is Beck ready to go to take on 4th line centre at lower cost

 

[Sterling Archer]

? is...... can the habs find a centre for 3.5/4 mill to replace him
or
is Beck ready to go to take on 4th line centre at lower cost

Beck and Kapanen both showing they’re very capable. Having Evans is a luxury of having a fully developed center already here. Plenty of bottom 6 centres to pick from IMO. Not giving Evans the moon even if some desperate GM might for a one off career year with an insane shooting percentage.

I’d extend him, just not for 3rd liner money like they did with Armia. Number has to be in the 3’s.

 

[lamp9post]

The top trade target for me this offseason would be an established 2nd line C who can play a 200 foot game. Someone like Kadri would be ideal, but his age and contract are a concern. I worry about playing Demidov with some mix of Dach, Newhook, and Laine. Maybe its worth trying out for a season to see if something clicks but I just don't like the makeup of our 2nd line.

Regarding Evans, given that he is having a career year ahead of becoming a UFA and we have Beck and Kapanen on the way, I think now is the time to cash out and trade him.

I'd actually consider re-signing Dvorak on a short term deal (something like 2 years, $2.5-3M AAV). Here are my reasons:
- Assuming all our UFAs leave, a priority this offseason will be a vet LHC who can take draws, so if we don't re-sign him, we'll have to replace him somehow.
- He won't fetch anything in a trade given his current cap hit and his potential new deal will be much less than Evans is asking.
- Seems like he's a well liked guy in the locker room (i.e. already proven to fit with the culture).

The other option would be to replace Dvorak by moving Newhook to C full time. That would also open up a LW spot for Demidov, but again, I really don't like the makeup of a Demidov-Dach-Laine line.

 

[NotSNFan]

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but if the Habs trade Evans, Armia, Dvo and Savard, they are trading away 4 who are key members of the PK. Evans, Armia and Savard are on the first unit and Dvo is the key centre for the 2nd unit. They'd need to be replaced. Going to be difficult to replace 3 members of the first unit

 

[sampollock]

"Mailloux will be traded during the summer for a top-6 forward. That's what we're trying to do. [...] Mailloux attracts a lot of scouts. I wouldn't be surprised if we call Mailloux back and give him games and there are a lot of scouts on the bridge between now and the end of the season."

- Maxime Truman

 

[Sterling Archer]

"Mailloux will be traded during the summer for a top-6 forward. That's what we're trying to do. [...] Mailloux attracts a lot of scouts. I wouldn't be surprised if we call Mailloux back and give him games and there are a lot of scouts on the bridge between now and the end of the season."

- Maxime Truman

Who is this guy?

 

[DiglettDangles]

Evans at 4M X 4 would be like signing Armia with a premium because Evans is a C. It could potentially be as much of an overpaid contract as armies contract was. During the early years of a rebuild, that's fine, but at the end of a rebuild, not so much.

I'd rather go 3.5M X 5, than 4M X 4. Cheaper per season is easier to move if you have players outperforming Evans as his contract wears on.

Disagree - with the cap going way up, you're far more likely to regret term vs AAV.
Also would want a shorter term because we shouldn't need Evans in 3 years if everything goes well (but he's not signing for 3).
It's easier to trade & retain his extra year at 2M than 2 years at 1.75M, no one will care about the extra 250k saving.

 

[morhilane]

Who is this guy?

A guy who wrote opinion piece based other people opinions (and his own) for danslescoulisses.com.

 

[SOLR]

What’s there to fear exactly? Getting mid rounders for Dvorak, Savard etc is going to have negligible value to this team vs 53% of roster going through the grind of high intensity March / April games - even if they don’t capture a wildcard spot

Pending UFAs should simply be viewed as deadline acquisitions - Habs have so many picks who gives a f*ck about adding more 3/4/5th rounders


Dreger has no Habs connections, he’s only there because of the TSN link

Savard / Evans would fetch a lot MORE than 3/4/5th rounders. Late 1st, 2nd rounders.

Dvorak yeah who cares.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Who is this guy?

Well he’s a French rapper (*Ironik), who just happens to be one of the main guys behind Dans Les Coulisses.

Essentially he’s the “National Enquirer” of the Habs. Lower than Marco D’Amico or Grant McCagg in terms of credibility. A bottom feeder who makes Laraque look like Walter Cronkite.

 

[Kosseca]

"Mailloux will be traded during the summer for a top-6 forward. That's what we're trying to do. [...] Mailloux attracts a lot of scouts. I wouldn't be surprised if we call Mailloux back and give him games and there are a lot of scouts on the bridge between now and the end of the season."

- Maxime Truman

This makes no sense... why wait for the summer?

 

[waitin425]

So today's thought process with various discussions seen around here goes like this....

Sign Evans for 5 x 3.75. He seems to want the longer term, so let's negotiate him down.

Trade Dach plus whatever small add (Engstrom, Mesar, Roy are some options) they ask for Nemec. Former 3rd overall pick for former 2nd overall pick. Both in need of change of scenery.

Trade Matheson for whatever we can get (ideally 2026 protected 1st)
Trade Savard for whatever we can get
Trade Armia for whatever we can get
Trade Dvorak for whatever we can get

Sign Bennett as UFA in offseason for 7 years x 7 mil.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Laine - Bennett - Demidov
Heinemen - Beck - Newhook
Anderson - Evans - Gally

Guhle - Nemec
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Carrier
Mailloux

Pipeline:
Hage
2025 1st x 2
2026 1st x 2

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

This makes no sense... why wait for the summer?

A team in the mix/ going for it might trade a player that has played well and is due for a raise, but thar team can't/doesn't want to do it.

That's my only guess.

 

[sampollock]

This makes no sense... why wait for the summer?

His options are like many posters

 

[Treb]

I think Silayev is a top 6 defenseman but has 4-5 more years of development. He’s a projected to be a stay home like Johnathan Kovalcevic so don’t think he’s that highly. Also New Jersey has some other very good defensemen coming Hughes, Nemec, Casey to add with Hamilton, Pesce, Dillon, Kova, Steiger.

Also Evans would need to agree on extension. Jersey has been looking for a 3rd line center for a very long time. Evans fits the style of play for sure. I wouldn’t be surprised.

They just drafted him 10th overall, so I’d say they value him higher than a Kovacevic. I also don't think he's going to take 4-5 years considering his play in the KHL at 18 years old.

 

[Guy Larose]

Quinton Byfield isn't a name we've heard come up in trade rumours until this week, but suddenly he could be in play. Perhaps he is the player Los Angeles can move to change their look for an opening playoff round.

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[themilosh]

Hypothetical

The habs are getting Rantanen, or Marner.

same contract at 14 x 7 let's say.

Which one are you choosing and why ?

In real life the habs get neither and they sign Dominik Kubalik and bring him back to the NHL.

Ok not that bad, but theres low belief to land either, but go have fun.

If we are going to burn a $14m slot on a proven vet wing - then Rants is the only choice.

I say no to either.

Maybe they’ll actually trade Dach

If we're trading Dach, it's for Cozens

 

[themilosh]

The top trade target for me this offseason would be an established 2nd line C who can play a 200 foot game. Someone like Kadri would be ideal, but his age and contract are a concern. I worry about playing Demidov with some mix of Dach, Newhook, and Laine. Maybe its worth trying out for a season to see if something clicks but I just don't like the makeup of our 2nd line.

Regarding Evans, given that he is having a career year ahead of becoming a UFA and we have Beck and Kapanen on the way, I think now is the time to cash out and trade him.

I'd actually consider re-signing Dvorak on a short term deal (something like 2 years, $2.5-3M AAV). Here are my reasons:
- Assuming all our UFAs leave, a priority this offseason will be a vet LHC who can take draws, so if we don't re-sign him, we'll have to replace him somehow.
- He won't fetch anything in a trade given his current cap hit and his potential new deal will be much less than Evans is asking.
- Seems like he's a well liked guy in the locker room (i.e. already proven to fit with the culture).

The other option would be to replace Dvorak by moving Newhook to C full time. That would also open up a LW spot for Demidov, but again, I really don't like the makeup of a Demidov-Dach-Laine line.

There 4 potential 2Cs we can target each with pros and cons:
EP40
Cozens
Stammer
Kadri

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Hypothetical

The habs are getting Rantanen, or Marner.

same contract at 14 x 7 let's say.

Which one are you choosing and why ?

In real life the habs get neither and they sign Dominik Kubalik and bring him back to the NHL.

Ok not that bad, but theres low belief to land either, but go have fun

It would be Marner because he has yet to win a cup and Rantanen does look a guy that will never come close without a MacKinnon and Makar

 

[Garry Valk]

I don’t get the concerns re: Laval. They’re the farm team. They have a playoff spot. Let’s give guys like Beck and Baree-Boulet a real shot. The former could be Evans next year, the latter oozes talent and has never had a genuine NHL chance.