HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #90: 2024-2025 season part III

[Schooner Guy]

I'm not even sure if he will *replace* him. I think he'll be better and replaces Dvorak. We have Kapanen too who will definitely play the NHL.

I'd be more looking at Davidson or Florian to replace Evans' fourth line centering.

It's too risky to go into next season counting on Beck to replace Evans up the middle. If Evans is gone, Habs will need to add a veteran center at least for the short term to insulate everyone other than Suzuki.

These B-level prospects rarely become minutes eating NHL centers overnight.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

It's too risky to go into next season counting on Beck to replace Evans up the middle. If Evans is gone, Habs will need to add a veteran center at least for the short term to insulate everyone other than Suzuki.

These B-level prospects rarely become minutes eating NHL centers overnight.

Thats what I have been trying to say but it seems other fans think that we can just replace Evans and Dvo with rookies thinking they will be #1 fine playing in the NHL without struggling and #2 able to handle a full 82 game schedule and #3 thinking we wont have injuries. Replacing Dvo with a rookie is fine but replacing two centers with rookies is going to be a disaster.

We can't just keep cutting loose/trading respectable players just because we "think" we have a rookie that can do the same job and or do it better when they haven't had a lick of NHL experience.

 

[HuGo Sham]

I agree with many that we can't risk going into next year with Suzuki and a bunch of maybes.
maybe Dach can play C
maybe beck is ready for the heavy load of playing 3C
maybe Kapanen can be a 4th C.
Maybe Demidov can replace Dach.
habs brass know this; I think they're haggling with Evans over term. I would give him a bit more money and try to get him @ 4 years to cover his 29-33 y.o seasons.
If not, and they deal him, I have 0 doubt they will sign a UFA, 4C for next year

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

If we sign Bennett to a 8+ million dollar contract and he maintains his scoring average of 45 points a season, Hughes, Gorton and Bennett will be eaten alive by media and fans alike.

Newhook and Dach are on pace for 30 and 35 points and all of you want to catapult them to the moon!! Bennet having 40 point seasons at 8+ million per... yeah good luck with that!

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Canes not extending Guentzel and now having buyers remorse trading away Necas for Rantanen who they probably won’t keep. You love to see it.

That's what happens when you're a bunch of jerks!

 

[VT]

About your trades. When I was looking at our calendar, I looked at yours. On March 6 you have your first game in the West with Edmonton, then Calgary, Vancouver and Seattle, with Vancouver and Seattle being day-to-day. I assume you're leaving on March 5. So at the most, you should know who's leaving by then. Then there's another catch. You write that the GM wants Laval to win the AHL (logical to me, he wants young players to learn how to win in the PO). So not the fact that there will be trades.

 

[DAChampion]

I say just f*** it, stop overthinking and go out there and trade Evans.

Are you having a hard time with the stress of Kent Hughes' job?

Chill !

 

[Habssince89]

I agree with many that we can't risk going into next year with Suzuki and a bunch of maybes.
maybe Dach can play C
maybe beck is ready for the heavy load of playing 3C
maybe Kapanen can be a 4th C.
Maybe Demidov can replace Dach.
habs brass know this; I think they're haggling with Evans over term. I would give him a bit more money and try to get him @ 4 years to cover his 29-33 y.o seasons.
If not, and they deal him, I have 0 doubt they will sign a UFA, 4C for next year

2C and 3C are big question marks for next year. Beck i'm sure can do 4C and Suzuki is 1C. I agree they need to ensure at least a 2C that they can rely on

 

[vokiel]

Are you having a hard time with the stress of Kent Hughes' job?

Chill !

What stress? Maybe explaining how his own choices failed. Jake isn't one of them.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If we sign Bennett to a 8+ million dollar contract and he maintains his scoring average of 45 points a season, Hughes, Gorton and Bennett will be eaten alive by media and fans alike.

Newhook and Dach are on pace for 30 and 35 points and all of you want to catapult them to the moon!! Bennet having 40 point seasons at 8+ million per... yeah good luck with that!

That's because Dach can't win a faceoff and can't play on the defensive side of the puck and adds very little offensively.

Bennett could be better on the draw, but he's taking the most on the Panthers (Barkov injury) and they're a pretty good team.

He averages as much time on the PK as both Newhook and Dach combined ! (Its 4 seconds on average a game)

He brings agitation to his game when neither of the others do.

He's a proven performer in the playoffs.

Can't imagine the Habs go 8 for him, but 7 I can definitely see.

He brings a lot to the game and maybe it's just the Habs aren't good, but Dach and Newhook aren't bringing much to the team in any capacity.

 

[salbutera]

I think Habs have to trade Dvo, Evans, Armia and Savard at a minimum.

They need spots for youngsters moving up and hopefully add some solid veteran experience. Next year try to move Anderson, Gally and Matheson and repeat.

This team needs to get better players, more veterans and more depth then current so the can insulate new kids coming and support/supplement existing core. At a minimum they’re bringing in Demidov, Beck, Kapanen, Mailloux and Reinbacher next year at one point or another. Not to mention players who may be pushing for spots like Tuch, Roy, Xhekaj as well. Also, with all the cash and prospect/picks, Habs will undoubtedly try to land a big fish or two via trade and/or UFA markets.

Too many players they need to rotate out to make space for better players.

I don’t see more than Dvo being dealt, unless Savard can net more than a 3rd rounder.

Next season Demigod and perhaps Beck will likely be the only rookies to start the season w Habs

Young players will organically filter into lineup as Savard, Gally, Matheson depart over next 2-3 years

 

[Sterling Archer]

I don’t see more than Dvo being dealt, unless Savard can net more than a 3rd rounder.

Next season Demigod and perhaps Beck will likely be the only rookies to start the season w Habs

Young players will organically filter into lineup as Savard, Gally, Matheson depart over next 2-3 years

Through trade or UFA, they should be dropping those players. So even if some of those players are still here after the deadline, I dont expect them here in the off-season.

I’m all for vets but Habs need food ones that can help carry the load. The ones they have now can’t carry a paper cup and taking up spots for kids to develop. We’ll see if the Habs can crawl back into competing for a playoff spot, but if not by the TDL, I expect as many bodies to move as there is interest in.

 

[Habs Icing]

At the same time who would they be scouting other than Laval if they are here? They surely aren’t going to make judgments based on the Habs skills competition tomorrow.

Did it ever occur to you that you may have just outed them to Caps management? Maybe instead of Columbus or Rochester, they came to Montreal for the......night life.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Canes not extending Guentzel and now having buyers remorse trading away Necas for Rantanen who they probably won’t keep. You love to see it!

that's a shame

 

[Runner77]

KH has so many picks
When and on who does he use them on

He’s going to use a few on players he doesn’t need to sign right away and thus be able to stay within his 50 contract limit. Some might even be packaged for future picks or be used as currency to move up in the draft or to land a young, NHL ready player, are the likely outcomes. He definitely can’t use them all.

 

[vokiel]

He’s going to use a few on players he doesn’t need to sign right away and thus be able to stay within his 50 contract limit. Some might even be packaged for future picks or be used as currency to move up in the draft or to land a young, NHL ready player, are the likely outcomes. He definitely can’t use them all.

Yes and when he needs to choose who is not signed, folks are going to cry we're not patient like a bunch of high school cheer leaders!

 

[yianik]

Bennett is a UFA this summer. A left handed #2 center. Would you give him 10 million?

For 2 years maybe. As in $10 M÷2.

 

[1909]

No high price UFA, please ! Keep Evans and Armia. And Savard too.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

If we sign Bennett to a 8+ million dollar contract and he maintains his scoring average of 45 points a season, Hughes, Gorton and Bennett will be eaten alive by media and fans alike.

Newhook and Dach are on pace for 30 and 35 points and all of you want to catapult them to the moon!! Bennet having 40 point seasons at 8+ million per... yeah good luck with that!

1- he's pacing 51 pts right now

2- he gets most of his production at ES. He's around the top 30-40 among Centermen for ESP. Very similar ES production as Danault or Monahan.

7-8 mil is what you'd pay for a Danault-type (defensive two-way C) in this new era of immense cap growth, or a Monahan without an injury history.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I dunno, by all accounts, the difference between the Habs and the Evans camp are fairly significant. I don’t see them being able to get a deal done in the next month, and with the Habs a long shot to make it, you have to deal him at the deadline. You can’t take the risk that he walks for nothing.

There’s a huge market for a reliable third line center that excels on the PK, wins face offs and has speed. Hughes knows this and will drive up the price to a team in need. He will make his move when he gets his price. I firmly believe that if we package Evans with Armia, we can get a first round pick in return.

Once that bit of work has been completed, I think Hughes uses it in a package to acquire a nice young player (center or right handed defender) that fits more with the current roster age… similar to the Dach/Ramanov deal.

 

[yianik]

I dunno, by all accounts, the difference between the Habs and the Evans camp are fairly significant. I don’t see them being able to get a deal done in the next month, and with the Habs a long shot to make it, you have to deal him at the deadline. You can’t take the risk that he walks for nothing.

There’s a huge market for a reliable third line center that excels on the PK, wins face offs and has speed. Hughes knows this and will drive up the price to a team in need. He will make his move when he gets his price. I firmly believe that if we package Evans with Armia, we can get a first round pick in return.

Once that bit of work has been completed, I think Hughes uses it in a package to acquire a nice young player (center or right handed defender) that fits more with the current roster age… similar to the Dach/Ramanov deal.

Evans is a 4C except if hes on a run, and if he wants upwards of $5M as reported theres no way. Even with an increased Cap he gets $5M and Suzuki and gang sub $8M ? No. Absolutley not.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Trade thread is bleek. No players to sell for a return worth talking about, no interesting player on the market worth trading for.

What will Hugo do?

 

[Scriptor]

That's what happens when you're a bunch of jerks!

Canes will end up in Quebec one day. There just won't be any good players left by then.

 

[Weltschmerz]

Trade thread is bleek. No players to sell for a return worth talking about, no interesting player on the market worth trading for.

What will Hugo do?

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Gorton will eat, and learn french.

 

[Runner77]

Trade thread is bleek. No players to sell for a return worth talking about, no interesting player on the market worth trading for.

What will Hugo do?

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Only player who could fetch something decent is Dach, should the Habs decide that he’s redundant as a winger.