Sasha Orlov
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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #90: 2024-2025 season part III
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McGees
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Remember after Laine score his first 5pp goals a bunch of people wanted to extend him for a boatload....good times.
Team_Spirit
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that would be ideal.. Also picking up Mrtka with the Flames pick....so trade away as much as we can (Evans, Army, Dvorak, MATHESON!), tank hard, try to get pick #2, and draft...Misa??...
The goal would be Mckenna next season....so trade away as much as we can (Evans, Army, Dvorak, MATHESON!), tank hard, try to get pick #2, and draft...Misa??...
austin316
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At this rate we are turning into the next Buffalo and will be rebuilding for 15 years
...we DO need to start improving at some time in the near future...do we want to be the 2010's Oilers or Fluffabo for the last decade and a half??...
Apart from Demidov, who is going to make such a difference next season?...we DO need to start improving at some time in the near future...do we want to be the 2010's Oilers or Fluffabo for the last decade and a half??...
Thankfully Armia and Dvorak are gone next season and we can finally play youngsters but that means more growing pains.
Maybe we improve slightly but we will be in the bottom 5 still.
If demodov a generational talent then yes he would . But many moves can be made to add to him if he just elite talent
...we have one of the deepest pool of prospects in the League and some really good young players already here...having Reinbacher on the team next season finally could really help out that weak right side & free up Hutson to fly offensively...if Hughes can get a 2C in the offseason, Dach can be moved to the RW where he'd have much more success...as much crap as Slaf gets here, he can still be a real difference maker if he'd learn to move his feet and not defer all the damn time (as he does have a very good shot)...these kids can grow; they have the talent...adding Demidov...theere's a light at the end of this tunnel, we don't need to be the Oil or Fluffabo and just keep tanking in hopes of finding the next McJesus...
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Outside of Demidov we have Reinbacher and Hage, outside of them three we have Fowler. And that’s pretty much it.
To get a top Dman or a 2C we’ll have to sacrifice some futures — and possibly some prospects. Suddenly we won’t have a deep prospect pool.
This deep prospect pool stuff is always overstated and always underwhelming. Riley Kidney is not going to move the needle.
That's a lot ifs. Reinbacher hasn't played in months and last season he did not progress as much as we would have happen. He could be a Ryan Murphy (2nd overall pick in 2012) for all we know.
I agree, I don't want to tank year after year but the talent is missing still.
...ifs are what prospect are...we either have faith in the process or not...I do...
The first half to next season might have its ups and downs, but I expect the tabs to be better in the second half, as Reinbacher gets his feet under him and he becomes able to keep up with Hutson.
Worst case scenario, Carrier pairs up with Guhle again for next year and we have more time to find the right candidate as our 2nd top-4 RHD.
In the first half of the season, Matheson, before being traded at the trade deadline, can play with Hutson again. Then Reinbacher can step in.
Habs need to address the 2C situation in the offseason, though.
Possible UFA options, if they make it to the UFA market:
Brock Nelson (NYI)
Mikael Granlund (DAL)
Matt Duchene (DAL)
Sam Bennett (FLA)
I omitted to add players like Tavares or marchand who would never play for Montreal, even if they did make it to the UFA market.
Worst case scenario, Carrier pairs up with Guhle again for next year and we have more time to find the right candidate as our 2nd top-4 RHD.
In the first half of the season, Matheson, before being traded at the trade deadline, can play with Hutson again. Then Reinbacher can step in.
Habs need to address the 2C situation in the offseason, though.
Possible UFA options, if they make it to the UFA market:
Brock Nelson (NYI)
Mikael Granlund (DAL)
Matt Duchene (DAL)
Sam Bennett (FLA)
I omitted to add players like Tavares or marchand who would never play for Montreal, even if they did make it to the UFA market.
What process?
See I have faith if I order a pizza it should get by my door within an hour. That's faith in a process... Faith in people's opinion of prospect promises isn't faith in a process, it's just plain adoration. You trust the jesus tells you the pool is deep, I trust the jesus gains more out of this lie, than me having faith in it.
What process?
See I have faith if I order a pizza it should get by my door within an hour. That's faith in a process... Faith in people's opinion of prospect promises isn't faith in a process, it's just plain adoration. You trust the jesus tells you the pool is deep, I trust the jesus gains more out of this lie, than me having faith in it.
...then please give us how YOU'd go about building the team, as opposed to drafting & developing talent...that's what we're doing...it isn't saying we're done and we have a Cup Contender; it's saying we have a lot of good young talent and have to give them the opportunity to grow...the days of just buying a stacked team are over...
Center is coming thru the draft or a trade most likely.....those free agents are not signing on a non contending team and paying high taxes....better options out there.
Giving an opportunity to grow to a young player does not necessarily lead you to a Cup Contender line up. That's the hasty generalization prospect fans are making. So lets see, how I'd approach this from a high-level perspective:
- I'd trade all the low percentage capital after round 4 or 5 and concentrate everything in the first 4-5 rounds.
- As soon as a prospect seems to be challenged by the league, I'd trade him for more draft capital. (Short tempered, because f*** em)
- Also based on the amount that will rebound being smaller than the percentages making it in round 5-6-7
- I'd sell all expiring contracts all the time at the TDL, except for core contracts.
- That's simply because I want a competitive team every year, not taking breaks because x, y, z was injured.
- Speaking of core contracts, I'd extend them before puck drop of their last season with a reachable bonus for next contract on this season.
- I would not invest long terms in support personnel ever.
- For the same reason as above, get on the market, get the owner to spend, no long terms.
- I would bag of skate everyone day 1 of every training camp.
- I'd PT the entire team on da streets until people get scared.
- Same as Martin was doing on the stationary bikes.
- And finally, the best player available would need to be an ass, no pansies allowed on my club, no siree.
Kobe Armstrong
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It's ridiculous to assume that Reinbacher will help us in the NHL next season when neither Nemec or Jiricek are able to and neither of them had nearly as disastrous D + 1 and 2 seasons.
If he's even able to play that's great, but he's not going to be helping us right away there's going to be a ton of growing pains with him where he hurts the team more than helps it his rookie season.
If he's even able to play that's great, but he's not going to be helping us right away there's going to be a ton of growing pains with him where he hurts the team more than helps it his rookie season.
Giving an opportunity to grow to a young player does not necessarily lead you to a Cup Contender line up. That's the hasty generalization prospect fans are making. So lets see, how I'd approach this from a high-level perspective:
Does this start to look like a process? My point is there isn't one
- I'd trade all the low percentage capital after round 4 or 5 and concentrate everything in the first 4-5 rounds.
- As soon as a prospect seems to be challenged by the league, I'd trade him for more draft capital. (Short tempered, because f*** em)
- Also based on the amount that will rebound being smaller than the percentages making it in round 5-6-7
- I'd sell all expiring contracts all the time at the TDL, except for core contracts.
- That's simply because I want a competitive team every year, not taking breaks because x, y, z was injured.
- Speaking of core contracts, I'd extend them before puck drop of their last season with a reachable bonus for next contract on this season.
- I would not invest long terms in support personnel ever.
- For the same reason as above, get on the market, get the owner to spend, no long terms.
- I would bag of skate everyone day 1 of every training camp.
- I'd PT the entire team on da streets until people get scared.
- Same as Martin was doing on the stationary bikes.
- And finally, the best player available would need to be an ass, no pansies allowed on my club, no siree.
...so you're just bitching to bitch...OK...
austin316
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