HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #89: 2024-2025 season part II

[BergevinBurner]

Yeah if there're planning on trading Pettersson, Hughes need to be on it and see if it's a possibility.

Laine-Pettersson-Demidov
Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovski

What can we trade to make it work?

He's just not worth the gamble in my opinion. He's been a shell of his former self ever since his contract extension which is likely due to lingering injuries and health issues.

If we were to trade for him I'm guessing the Canucks ask for a package around either Suzuki+, Caufield+, Demidov+, Slaf++ or Reinbacher++. They'd want a premium asset back and something else on top of that.

 

[EveryDay]

...Petterson would cost a small fortune and hasn't lived up to his big ticket since he signed it...he also comes off as lacking in the intensity department...not worth it, imo...

Could be because of his knee injury? I dint know.

If he's back tho, he's another 90+ point center, it's not worth it?

 

[EveryDay]

He's just not worth the gamble in my opinion. He's been a shell of his former self ever since his contract extension which is likely due to lingering injuries and health issues.

If we were to trade for him I'm guessing the Canucks ask for a package around either Suzuki+, Caufield+, Demidov+, Slaf++ or Reinbacher++. They'd want a premium asset back and something else on top of that.

That much????? I'm not so sure about these high prices. It means they would ask for a player as good as Petey. Like Stutzle, Thompson, Raymond. It's a little rich no?

 

[ReHabs]

As much as I’d love EP40, his bad form this year is extremely worrisome. Better hope it is something from which he can recover.

The Habs can’t afford the risk. We have Demidov coming we aren’t desperate for a high-risk, high-reward play like acquiring EP40 and his jumbo contract just for his production upside.

I’m usually all for improving the roster with high-skill players but I don’t love EP40 right now. I thought EP40 would show improvement and the hint of returning to form… and Miller is a great player but his trade value would be painful and his contract has him signed for a bit too long into his late 30s. It’s not the cap hit, it’s the length.

 

[BergevinBurner]

That much????? I'm not so sure about these high prices. It means they would ask for a player as good as Petey. Like Stutzle, Thompson, Raymond. It's a little rich no?

Regardless of his injuries and current form he's still a 26 year old center with a 100+ point season under his belt that's locked up on an 8 year extension. The ask for him will be astronomical, players like that rarely ever get moved.

I think Vancouver hangs up the phone if our offer doesn't start with one of those key guys.

 

[DAChampion]

Regardless of his injuries and current form he's still a 26 year old center with a 100+ point season under his belt that's locked up on an 8 year extension. The ask for him will be astronomical, players like that rarely ever get moved.

I think Vancouver hangs up the phone if our offer doesn't start with one of those key guys.

I predict that the largest part of a trade package for Petersson will be 11.6 million in cap space over the next 8 years.

 

[McGees]

For Petey - I'd probably be ready to include assets like Caufield / Mailloulx /Dach / CGY 1st + salary back like Gally
(not all of that obviously)

 

[eklund the clown]

Regardless of his injuries and current form he's still a 26 year old center with a 100+ point season under his belt that's locked up on an 8 year extension. The ask for him will be astronomical, players like that rarely ever get moved.

I think Vancouver hangs up the phone if our offer doesn't start with one of those key guys.

He scored 102 points once a couple of years ago .Since then he had 89 got a serious injury a 11.4 mil contract for 8 years and this year is on pace for 60 points .What if you obtain him even for a bargain price and he never comes back to even 70 point production?You are stuck paying him that contract for 7 more years.He is not going to get a haul with that contract plus his dropoff.Rantanen who is a consistent 100 point plus/year player with a lower salary got Necas

 

[MolleSon]

Yeah if there're planning on trading Pettersson, Hughes need to be on it and see if it's a possibility.

Laine-Pettersson-Demidov
Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovski

What can we trade to make it work?

Slaf?

 

[Benstheman]

For Petterson?

I offer Dach + Matheson + best of our 1st + Mailloux.

If they don’t want, beat it.

I wouldn’t do Suzuki 1 on 1.

I wouldn’t do Demidov 1 on 1

I wouldn’t do Caufield +

I would do Slaf + something though.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

If they keep Dvorak, Gallagher, Anderson, Armia and Evans on the team they could be worse even with Demidov. At the very least Dvorak should be gone and Gallagher needs to be bought out. Evans can go if he doesn't come cheap. Add Beck, Davidson and Demidov, Reinbacher if he is ready, and there is no chance they are worse.

Armia and Evans are good players, that we need to keep, at the right price. Dvorak won't comeback. Andy and Gally are untreadable.

 

[Treb]

For Petterson?

I offer Dach + Matheson + best of our 1st + Mailloux.

If they don’t want, beat it.

I wouldn’t do Suzuki 1 on 1.

I wouldn’t do Demidov 1 on 1

I wouldn’t do Caufield +

I would do Slaf + something though.

I don't think this would be a move in the right direction. We do not need a Pettersson (prime) level C when we have Suzuki.

I feel like a bot, but a legit 2C and top4 (preferentially top2) RD is what Montreal should spend assets on.

 

[expy]

For Petterson?

I offer Dach + Matheson + best of our 1st + Mailloux.

If they don’t want, beat it.

I wouldn’t do Suzuki 1 on 1.

I wouldn’t do Demidov 1 on 1

I wouldn’t do Caufield +

I would do Slaf + something though.

Dach + Montemblow + 1st + prospect

for

Petterson + Lankinen

 

[Treb]

Dach + Montemblow + 1st + prospect

for

Petterson + Lankinen

You would turn on Lankinen within 5 games.

 

[expy]

You would turn on Lankinen within 5 games.

Naw, he's just there to fill in the void since we're not going to call up Primeau.

I'm well aware out goalie situation sucks. It won't be fixed for a while unless Hughes trades for a true #1.

I don't care if we don't compete for the playoffs this year, I don't believe our rebuild is done yet.

 

[Benstheman]

Well I’m not that worried about that lost but losing Guhle would convince me to sell all we have to sell.

 

[Treb]

Naw, he's just there to fill in the void since we're not going to call up Primeau.

I'm well aware out goalie situation sucks. It won't be fixed for a while unless Hughes trades for a true #1.

I don't care if we don't compete for the playoffs this year, I don't believe our rebuild is done yet.

Lankinen is not better than Montembeault (and a UFA this year) so you are both downgrading and causing a gap this summer which is a summer with very little quality goalies free to sign.

You're making the rebuild actively worse with this trade by wasting assets.

Not like Vancouver actually would do this trade as it does nothing for them because they don't need Monty with Demko and Dach downgrades quite a bit from Pettersson.

 

[expy]

Lankinen is not better than Montembeault (and a UFA this year) so you are both downgrading and causing a gap this summer which is a summer with very little quality goalies free to sign.

You're making the rebuild actively worse with this trade by wasting assets.

Not like Vancouver actually would do this trade as it does nothing for them because they don't need Monty with Demko and Dach downgrades quite a bit from Pettersson.

Mtb is making 3.15 that could be used elsewhere, I don't care to downgrade at goal since that position is still to be fixed anyway. The rebuild isn't done, goaltending isn't set, we can't waste money at that position.

How are we worse with Petterson (theoretically if the trade goes) and Lankinen, vs having Dach and Mtb? Lankinen's stats are better even.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

It is definitely a real thing that he has been acquiring Quartexx players every season. It's TBD if that is a problem though.

Matheson worries me because he is Hughes' favorite player/person and I'm not sure if Hughes will be willing to deal him without doing a favor to the player. Hughes would love to give Matheson a big contract extension. I think he'll wait until next season so he can negotiate a sign and trade to ensure his friends come out okay.

Newhook is another one of his best bud's and Hughes visited Nova Scotia when Newhook brought the Cup there.

He's not going to be cuthroat when it comes to these guys

He was Newhook's agent. That's why he went. He was also Matheson's agent.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

That much????? I'm not so sure about these high prices. It means they would ask for a player as good as Petey. Like Stutzle, Thompson, Raymond. It's a little rich no?

Petey isn't getting anywhere close to that. The Cozens & Byram rumour is probably the best offer out there if it's true.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

...Calgary fans posting that they need a Top 4 LD...Matheson is a LD...

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Brock Boeser available. Hmmm

He's super slow, and poor defensively. He's also UFA. That's a huge pass. Some team will regret the $8m contract he gets.

 

[Treb]

Mtb is making 3.15 that could be used elsewhere, I don't care to downgrade at goal since that position is still to be fixed anyway. The rebuild isn't done, goaltending isn't set, we can't waste money at that position.

How are we worse with Petterson (theoretically if the trade goes) and Lankinen, vs having Dach and Mtb? Lankinen's stats are better even.

1. You ignored when I said Vancouver wouldn't do this trade and explained why.

2. What do you think Lankinen would ask for being Montreal's starter? You are NOT saving money past this year. As for the stats, are you going to ask for Merilainen or Kuemper next?

2.5 Monty's salary is not prohibiting at all, using it as an argument is not a good look on your cap comprehension abilities.

3. Spending assets for Pettersson is assets spent on luxury. We have way more pressing needs than a Pettersson.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Mtb is making 3.15 that could be used elsewhere, I don't care to downgrade at goal since that position is still to be fixed anyway. The rebuild isn't done, goaltending isn't set, we can't waste money at that position.

How are we worse with Petterson (theoretically if the trade goes) and Lankinen, vs having Dach and Mtb? Lankinen's stats are better even.

Habs have all the goalies they need. Dobes, Fowler, Monty, Volokhin. There will be NO fix other than that. They may draft more with later picks but that is all.

 

[Treb]

Brock Boeser available. Hmmm

Unless one of Laine, Slaf or Caufield is part of the trade, there should be no interest unless the price is floor low for a resell this offseason.

Demidov is coming and we have a bunch of prospects/young players pushing for 3rd line wing.