Trade Proposal Thread #89: 2024-2025 season part II

[Beendair Donedat]

I wonder how Granlund would do. He's 32. He's 5'10.

But he wouldn't be that expensive, and he's almost point per game. I think he'd be better than Newhook with Dach and Laine. And, I think Newhook would be dynamite with Armia and Evans. Newhook had chemistry with Armia last year.

I’ve been saying that Granlund checks all the boxes for what the Habs need for a “playoff rental” for awhile now, and have made several proposals to acquire him at the deadline. He’s a veteran soon to be UFA, left handed center, good motor, great vision, and would be an excellent set up man for Laine.

I’d love a playoff lineup of:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Laine - Granlund - Heineman
Newhook - Dach - Anderson
Gallagher - Evans - Armia

Or some combination thereof…

 

[sampollock]

I don't understand the Habs interest I'm Rantanen. We already have 4 top 6 wingers. Where's he going to fit. A C would make more sense imo.

Need a center

 

[Habs7631]

Might already have been posted here, if yes sorry and delete post. But this made me lol

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I wonder how Granlund would do. He's 32. He's 5'10.

But he wouldn't be that expensive, and he's almost point per game. I think he'd be better than Newhook with Dach and Laine. And, I think Newhook would be dynamite with Armia and Evans. Newhook had chemistry with Armia last year.

Granlund would be great on a third line. Just think the Timing is a bit off. Id rather keep Newhook for now but Granlund is a good player overall.

 

[Thomas Sowell]

Let's see if the Canes actually pay him or he leaves like Guentzel did last year. Engels said if Rantanen makes it to UFA, the Habs will back up the brinks truck for him.

Management would have to either view demidov as a centre or be looking to trade a winger for one, or trade a winger for RHD and then trade reinbacher for one. Or maybe just plan on letting Laine walk but I can't see it with how he's been scoring.

Or maybe dach is a true number 2 and we're fine with slaf on the third line lol.

Give each line 20 minutes. Dress nothing but goons for 800k on the fourth

 

[Scintillating10]

Rumour is Rantanen wants $14 million+ and the insiders were saying that if they believed the Avs couldn't sign him then they would trade him before the deadline

I'd love to acquire Rantanen. Big, smart, 50 goals, 26 in prime years. Plays well under pressure in playoffs. Durable, doesn't miss time, be ideal fit here. I'd pay him 14 million. Cap is going up, averaged over next 7 years it be a good contract

 

[ExReHabs]

I'd love to acquire Rantanen. Big, smart, 50 goals, 26 in prime years. Plays well under pressure in playoffs. Durable, doesn't miss time, be ideal fit here. I'd pay him 14 million. Cap is going up, averaged over next 7 years it be a good contract

14m! We don't need Mikko Rantanen, Slafkovsky is our Rantanen, remember? Any day now.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I'd love to acquire Rantanen. Big, smart, 50 goals, 26 in prime years. Plays well under pressure in playoffs. Durable, doesn't miss time, be ideal fit here. I'd pay him 14 million. Cap is going up, averaged over next 7 years it be a good contract

He is 28 not 26, will be 29 when next contract Starts. IF he asks for 13 or 14m, you just can t do it.

with CC Suzuki Slaf all around 8, Laine at 9, you re already paying 33m for 4 players. Add to that Anderson Gallagher that you can t get rid of, that s another 12m. Add Rantanen to this it means you have 30m to spend on 5 forwards, 6 Dmen, 2 goalies, +2 Extras at league Minimum. Even Assuming your other forwards have an AAV of 2m on average, that your goalies cost 5m combined with a small raise for Dobes, that s 17m including the Extras, so 13m for your Dcore while Guhle + Carrier is already 10m…
You re also screwing your cap structure in the future, that s a major risk but I understand you d take it for a Star Player.

If you tell me Laine is out Next year already and Gallagher can be moved that s another story of course.

 

[Egresch]

I'd love to acquire Rantanen. Big, smart, 50 goals, 26 in prime years. Plays well under pressure in playoffs. Durable, doesn't miss time, be ideal fit here. I'd pay him 14 million. Cap is going up, averaged over next 7 years it be a good contract

Why would you ruin your salary structure for someone you dont need? In couple years we might have the best top6 wingers in the league. We primarly need top4 RHD and 2C, the rest needs just patience.
Btw, Rantanen can easily drop out of 100 pts player to PPG player without McK and Makar.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

How many teams can and should give Rantanen an 8-year, 14 million a year contract?

With the cap going up to $97m a lot of teams, including Utah, Winnipeg, Columbus, Calgary, Anaheim, Nashville, Buffalo, Boston, NYI, Minnesota, maybe NYR, like more than half the teams in the league will be after him.

Oh, and of course, Carolina.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Hasn't he been playing wing most of his career?

Yes, with KK as his center majority of the time. Necas wants to play center but he's not good enough defensively for Rod and he sucks on face-offs.

His huge offensive streak at the beginning of this season was at center and then he majorly slowed down, Carolina was slumping so he was moved back to wing.

 

[morhilane]

I understand from both perspectives.

Aho is great, but he can't lead them alone. Rantanen moves to center for them permanently. Staal becomes 3rd line center. KK 4th.

Carolina is a middling good team. They have solid regular seasons then lose in 2nd round. Repeat year after year. They're trying to break that cycle.

Colorado is going with Mackinnon & Makar as it superstar leaders. Necas will play 2nd line center. Colton 3rd. Drury steps in as a 4th liner. Not sure what they do with Mittlestadt.

It opens up cap space for them, too as they do need to add depth to their forward units. They're top heavy - at least they were.

So Carolina traded for winger Rantanen to have a 2nd line center.
And Colorado traded for winger Necas to have a 2nd line center.
Chicago...no idea what Chicago is trying to accomplish, they dumped Taylor Hall I guess...



This trade feels like 3 GMs decided they wanted to do a trade, but couldn't bother thinking too much about it.

 

[StCaufield]

14m! We don't need Mikko Rantanen, Slafkovsky is our Rantanen, remember? Any day now.

I’d take a borderline generational player for that price. We could always stick with our moderately above average 5-8 million dollar players I guess and keep losing

 

[Rapala]

Laine,Dach,Rantanen , we do like our Fins

Kirby Dachanen

 

[StCaufield]

Why would you ruin your salary structure for someone you dont need? In couple years we might have the best top6 wingers in the league. We primarly need top4 RHD and 2C, the rest needs just patience.
Btw, Rantanen can easily drop out of 100 pts player to PPG player without McK and Makar.

Basing things off of “might” is never a good look. Every team needs a player like him. Also cap keeps going up and our financial structure would still be in better shape than most teams especially by the time the Gally and Andy contracts end

 

[GettingYourMoms]

Yes, with KK as his center majority of the time. Necas wants to play center but he's not good enough defensively for Rod and he sucks on face-offs.

His huge offensive streak at the beginning of this season was at center and then he majorly slowed down, Carolina was slumping so he was moved back to wing.

Yeah that´s what 16 minutes per night do to you, Avs won big time even Mittelstadt is massive upgrade for Necas over Kotkaniemi. Will be funny to see Rantanen playing without MacKinnon like pre-boom Necas.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Yeah that´s what 16 minutes per night do to you, Avs won big time even Mittelstadt is massive upgrade for Necas over Kotkaniemi. Will be funny to see Rantanen playing without MacKinnon like pre-boom Necas.

I wouldn't under estimate how important Makar is too. It's going to be interesting to see how Rantanen does without them and if Necas gets explosive again with them.

 

[CaptainKirk]

Kirby Dachanen

He also forgot Newhook from New Finland…

 

[Guy Larose]

14m! We don't need Mikko Rantanen, Slafkovsky is our Rantanen, remember? Any day now.

Wouldn't be a normal day without you bashing him

 

[yianik]

I don't understand the Habs interest I'm Rantanen. We already have 4 top 6 wingers. Where's he going to fit. A C would make more sense imo.

Well it's Habs fans interested in Rantanen. And it's because he is a great player of course, but you are correct. Unless we were moving one of the 4 wingers for Rantanen it makes 0 sense as we need to keep our assets for a 2C if Dach fails, or for possibly a top RHD

The Ehler talk is worse, the only guy he might be an improvement on in the here and now is Slaf. That's it. And I'm not taking Ehlers over Slaf.

 

[Deebs]

Wouldn't blame Bedard one bit if he asks for a way out of Chicago. I was thinking a team might offer sheet the kid after next year but with all the cap space in the world, Chicago will match anything and then he's stuck there for another 8.

 

[26Mats]

Granlund would be great on a third line. Just think the Timing is a bit off. Id rather keep Newhook for now but Granlund is a good player overall.

I don't mean trade Newhook. I mean bump him down to the 3rd line. But Granlund would cost at least Struble and a 2nd or a 3rd.

That's a lot to give up for a 32 year old, given our timingbinnthe rebuild.

 

[le_sean]

So Carolina traded for winger Rantanen to have a 2nd line center.
And Colorado traded for winger Necas to have a 2nd line center.
Chicago...no idea what Chicago is trying to accomplish, they dumped Taylor Hall I guess...



This trade feels like 3 GMs decided they wanted to do a trade, but couldn't bother thinking too much about it.

Carolina traded for Rantanen because he’s a top 10 forward in the league. This is a team that keeps losing in the playoffs because they can’t score and they added a premier player for a guy that’s always disappointed at even strength.

 

[morhilane]

Carolina traded for Rantanen because he’s a top 10 forward in the league. This is a team that keeps losing in the playoffs because they can’t score and they added a premier player for a guy that’s always disappointed at even strength.

I was commenting on MarkovsKnee saying Carolina traded for Rantanen to play him at center permanently (which I don't think they will do). Carolina 100% won that trade...unless they fail at extending Rantanen.

 

[vokiel]

Wouldn't blame Bedard one bit if he asks for a way out of Chicago. I was thinking a team might offer sheet the kid after next year but with all the cap space in the world, Chicago will match anything and then he's stuck there for another 8.

Why would he ask for way out? Taylor Hall is at the end of his career.