HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #89: 2024-2025 season part II

[Natey]

according to you, a 4th line player whose done nothing will bring back a good return? dude settle down when it comes to armia. Maybe evans will. but usually, when a team trades a top prospect, they want a really good player back, or a 1st, top prospects and picks. so you're wrong

You have no understanding of the deadline I see

 

[Kimota]

It's called being realist.

Habs don't really need Perry anyway, they have enough wingers. Assets are better spent elsewhere, like an established 2C or a top4 RD.

Every teams need Perry. He's a beast in the playoffs.

 

[Sorinth]

I get the incentive to do this now because of Nemec and Mercer, but Canucks are in a weird place where I doubt they'd be comfortable giving up a 1st, and trading away top prospects defeats the purpose of getting younger.

Going from a 31 year old to a 23 year old and a 20 year old is very much in line with the idea of getting younger. In no way does a pick/prospect defeats that purpose.

 

[The Great Weal]

Going from a 31 year old to a 23 year old and a 20 year old is very much in line with the idea of getting younger.

I have never said otherwise.

In no way does a pick/prospect defeats that purpose.

Giving up extremely valuable picks/prospects just to retain cap space to help facilitate a trade for two underperforming young players while also giving up a borderline elite player is extremely counter productive.

 

[Final Baton]

Is O'Reily (at 33) a good fit for our team? He'd be quite the upgrade over Dvorak.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Meh they shouldn't pull a covid deadline and should actually sell. The success of this team is mostly due to the players who are gonna be Long term as habs. Better than wasting assets for nothing. We did enough Bergevinaism

Trading for guys with some term isn't a Bergevinism. It's a HuGoism. It's what they did with Laine (2 years left) and with Carrier (2 years left).

As for the players who will be here long term, you want them playing important games for as long as possible. Their progress is primordial. And that means that they might not trade every upcoming UFA. And if they're still in the mix, it doesn't mean they'll be buyers. It means I think they might look to make hockey trades instead (similar to trading Barron for Carrier).

 

[BaseballCoach]

Evans, Matheson and a 2nd for Nemec. Allow NJD to discuss an extension with Evans before the trade. Matheson still has a year left on his contract after this season. The 2nd helps them make other TDL deals.

Nemec comes into our top 6 immediately. We call up Beck. This is a downgrade, but we should then hold on to Savard, Dvorak and Armia for the playoff push.

pointless

 

[themilosh]

Hage would be untouchable. Don't know why they would want Beck.

While I agree Hage has the tools to become a valuable 2C (maybe even a 1C), Nemec shores up our RHD. Thing with Hage that makes this difficult is not his playing style, it's that he (and his father) have been lifelong Habs fans - which is very hard to come by.

 

[themilosh]

If he wants to play so bad then dont give anything that much value . If he really wants to come here he would terminate his contract and join us. Simple as that

I dont think he can terminate his contract.. but i do agree that if there is a will there is a way. Maybe he shouldn't have signed a new 2 year extention.. his loss i suppose. I simply think not only would his skill bring us a cup, but his leadership is undeniable for a young team like us.

 

[Treb]

Every teams need Perry. He's a beast in the playoffs.

It's not 2021 anymore.

1 goal, 3 points in 19 playoff games last year.

 

[Treb]

But it's not me just "hoping" for a superstar like Crosby. There is a history for him (incredibly rare) of his childhood dream.
He would not hurt the balance in the room. He has no attitude, just win.. and his contract is relatively cheap for who he is. And (if) he still has fuel in the tank after next year, then he'll sign the team friendly one year deals thereafter.
It's a once in a lifetime opportunity, and while i agree it's an overpayment, non of what we would give would really hurt us.. only Beck would be the sting.

Childhood dreams of playing for the Habs aren't rare. Almost no player actually care about it in adulthood though.

Everything I've heard from Crosby is how he wants to be a Penguins for life. His extension with complete NMC/NTC is proof of that.

 

[SakuKoivu11]

Please trade Montembault. I’ve had enough of this Mediocre goaltending when the game is on the line.

Dvorak is ECHL material.

 

[themilosh]

Childhood dreams of playing for the Habs aren't rare. Almost no player actually care about it in adulthood though.

Everything I've heard from Crosby is how he wants to be a Penguins for life. His extension with complete NMC/NTC is proof of that.

Probably.. but theres far more behind the scenes when it comes to a generational player. Take Gretzky for example. Sure he picked LA, but he coukd care less about EDM. Yeah he kept it professional, but reality was he could care less about the Oil.
Sid either needs to declare Penguin forever or bust. Enough of empty platitudes; either commit to a team or own them like Mario

 

[HabzSauce]

Please trade Montembault. I’ve had enough of this Mediocre goaltending when the game is on the line.

Dvorak is ECHL material.

Trade Monty and call up Primeau? Sounds like a great plan

 

[DAChampion]

Probably.. but theres far more behind the scenes when it comes to a generational player. Take Gretzky for example. Sure he picked LA, but he coukd care less about EDM. Yeah he kept it professional, but reality was he could care less about the Oil.
Sid either needs to declare Penguin forever or bust. Enough of empty platitudes; either commit to a team or own them like Mario

Wut?

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I can’t wait for the day when Christian Dvorak returns to the abyss. I’m so tired of seeing his emotionless face, going through the motions of being a hockey player. He’s like a parasite that slowly sucks the life out of its host.

Addition by subtraction with this guy.

 

[ReimanSum1908]

Please trade Montembault. I’ve had enough of this Mediocre goaltending when the game is on the line.

Dvorak is ECHL material.

He's at worst an average starting goaltender and has been for years.

This is fact.

 

[Apoplectic Habs Fan]

6th rounder for anyone to replace pez

 

[HabsCowboysOwn]

I can’t wait for the day when Christian Dvorak returns to the abyss. I’m so tired of seeing his emotionless face, going through the motions of being a hockey player. He’s like a parasite that slowly sucks the life out of its host.

Addition by subtraction with this guy.

And yet he still has fans, I just don't get it. Some even want to re-sign him LOL.

Guy is the epitome of the Bargain Bin era plug vet -- boring, uninspiring, utterly useless. He's just there.