HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[BargainBinSpecial]

He is certainly pencilled in as the 3rd line center and there is nothing wrong with his effort, he just plays a very safe game. MSL has always had high praise for Dvorak's play. He is a center who plays a defensive role by assuming the F3 role more than an offensive center does. Hopefully MSL can get him out of his shell and use his skill a little more for offensive opportunities.

I see it as

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Laine - Dach - Newhook/Armia
Roy - Dvorak - Armia/Newhook
Anderson - Evans - Gallagher

I prefer Newhook over Armia as the RW with Dach because he is left handed and can augment Dach's right handedness on set draws whereas Dvorak is left handed and Newhook would be less useful on his line.



There is no rush to move Dvorak, especially for a 4th round pick. He will start the season as our 3C imo and be given an opportunity to either improve his trade value for later in the season or to be an integral part of a playoff push.

This looks like a pretty solid well rounded lineup, however if Laine/Dach get injured again it's all a house of cards. I do hope the Habs get another top center in the meantime. When it comes to Anderson and Armia, if they can be physical, they will do fine on bottom six.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Dvorak going to Columbus makes too much sense for both sides. The Habs need to make some room up front, while the Jackets add a veteran center, soon to be UFA, which takes them almost exactly to the cap floor.

To Montreal: 4th round pick (acquired from St Louis

To Columbus: Christian Dvorak

Keeping Dvorak for now makes more sense, IMO. The Habs still don't have a lot of depth at center. They probably prefer Newhook to play wing and Beck most likely starts the season in the AHL. That leaves Suzuki, Dach, Dvorak and Evans as the starters when everyone is healthy, with Newhook able to slide to center if someone gets hurt.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I see it as

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Laine - Dach - Newhook/Armia
Roy - Dvorak - Armia/Newhook
Anderson - Evans - Gallagher

I prefer Newhook over Armia as the RW with Dach because he is left handed and can augment Dach's right handedness on set draws whereas Dvorak is left handed and Newhook would be less useful on his line.

I prefer three scoring lines.

Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Dvorak-Dach-Laine
Roy-Newhook-Armia
Anderson-Evans-Gallagher

 

[Hacketts]

I prefer three scoring lines.

Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Dvorak-Dach-Laine
Roy-Newhook-Armia
Anderson-Evans-Gallagher

Do we wanna send Laine back to the PAP?

 

[Nevins]

I can't understand why some people here want to sign or trade for 4th liners at this point in time. We already have a bunch of vets occupying those lines. They're overpaid for what they bring, but they bring the same thing or more than 3rd or 4th liners that you would sign.

It's not because you're pissed at Anderson or Gallagher that they're worse than a 4th liner you can bring in. Stop acting on emotions.

I share your opinion, especially since we will have the fifth choice for the waivers and therefore will have the possibility of having more talented players.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I prefer three scoring lines.

Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Dvorak-Dach-Laine
Roy-Newhook-Armia
Anderson-Evans-Gallagher

Dvorak is a better center than Newhook at this point and I don't think the organization is going to push Newhook down the lineup for Dvorak as the whole point of acquiring him was to give him opportunities higher in the lineup but your lineup is awfully close to mine and there are alot of versatile forwards so maybe MSL looks at this. I just don't see it happening to start the season.

I do like the idea of keeping Roy-Newhook-Armia together as they showed great chemistry.....Dvorak just stands out like a sore thumb as a 2nd line LW

It will be interesting to see which side MSL wants Laine to play on as he has played both wings (center as well but that was plain stupid on Columbus' part)

 

[Destopcorner]

I prefer three scoring lines.

Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Dvorak-Dach-Laine
Roy-Newhook-Armia
Anderson-Evans-Gallagher

Love the fact DVO could take faceoffs on his strong side, something Dach isn't very good at. He's quite a good playmaker too, people underestimate his offensive touch because because of his defensive role. I also prefer him on the PP bumper spot than Newhook who can't finish anything

 

[G0bias]

Dvorak is a better center than Newhook at this point and I don't think the organization is going to push Newhook down the lineup for Dvorak as the whole point of acquiring him was to give him opportunities higher in the lineup but your lineup is awfully close to mine and there are alot of versatile forwards so maybe MSL looks at this. I just don't see it happening to start the season.

I do like the idea of keeping Roy-Newhook-Armia together as they showed great chemistry.....Dvorak just stands out like a sore thumb as a 2nd line LW

It will be interesting to see which side MSL wants Laine to play on as he has played both wings (center as well but that was plain stupid on Columbus' part)

Newhook managed to bring Armia and Gallagher back to life.
Something Dvorak never got close to doing since here. Hell he sucked the life out of any line he played on.

There's no point in breaking up the only time the 3rd line looked decent.

Plus no better opportunity for Roy to reach the next step than with Dach and Laine.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I do like the idea of keeping Roy-Newhook-Armia together as they showed great chemistry.....Dvorak just stands out like a sore thumb as a 2nd line LW

Perhaps Dvo looks good in camp and takes the faceoffs for Dach and covers defensively a bit for Laine. Maybe his trade value even goes up.

Dvorak or anyone else we use is just a one-year placeholder. Dvorak produced very well in the OHL when paired with talented players. Perhaps he can get 45 points while we await Demigod.

We could also trade Dvorak to get cap compliant and acquire an experienced scoring winger for one year at league minimum, such as Pacioretty or JVR.

Newhook managed to bring Armia and Gallagher back to life.
Something Dvorak never got close to doing since here. Hell he sucked the life out of any line he played on.

There's no point in breaking up the only time the 3rd line looked decent.

Plus no better opportunity for Roy to reach the next step than with Dach and Laine.

If Roy looks good in camp, and Gallagher looks better than Dvorak, this could be tried too.

I just like Newhook as a 15 minute 3rd line center including PP2 duty. I agree he finished last year strong ast C.

 

[Egresch]

I prefer three scoring lines.

Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Dvorak-Dach-Laine
Roy-Newhook-Armia
Anderson-Evans-Gallagher

I think it will be Roy, Newhook and Armia fighting for that spot next to Dach&Laine. I cannot imagine how Dvorak or Anderson could be beter than all of those 3.

 

[ReHabs]

The Habs team that was good enough to win three rounds was good enough to win four.

For one, the Lightning were 20 million over the cap, it was a fake team.

For two, that Lightning team was almost taken out by the Islanders. Could those Habs not have beaten those Islanders?

I didn't like the Price mega contract at the time, but hindsight proves it was a legitimate gamble.

With how badly Price played in the Final round the Habs stood no chance against any team. Not enough goals scored, not enough goals prevented.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

With how badly Price played in the Final round the Habs stood no chance against any team. Not enough goals scored, not enough goals prevented.

Price is the reason we made it to the finals in the first place. But yeah, he was done at this point, same with Weber, they both took the team on their shoulders.

HuGo, contrarily to Bergevin, seems to understand a good team needs more than a generational goalie in nets to save the team from itself, though, which bodes well for our future.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Surely they will get an exemption from the league for this year

Not sure they will need it. One move and they are at the floor.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I prefer three scoring lines.

Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Dvorak-Dach-Laine
Roy-Newhook-Armia
Anderson-Evans-Gallagher

I think Newhook will be on Dach's line. They share the center load and faceoffs. Doubt Dvorak is in the top 6 and on the wing.

1st two lines are predicable. Last two are moving parts before it stabilizes. Evans and Dvorak will be our bottom 2 centers. Book it

 

[BaseballCoach]

I think it will be Roy, Newhook and Armia fighting for that spot next to Dach&Laine. I cannot imagine how Dvorak or Anderson could be beter than all of those 3.

The three bolded players Roy, Newhook and Armia form a great line. If possible, I'd rather find a ONE SEASON placeholder on Laine's line for Demigod who is coming next year.

Dvorak? Pacioretty? JVR?

 

[Egresch]

The three bolded players Roy, Newhook and Armia form a great line. If possible, I'd rather find a ONE SEASON placeholder on Laine's line for Demigod who is coming next year.

Dvorak? Pacioretty? JVR?

Sorry, those are three horrible options. I want to be our 2nd line as good as possible. Laine and Dach both missed a lot of hockey and you need to keep their motivation up. Lining them with some burned out veteran will not help. Remember how it worked out with Tanner Pearson last year?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

With how badly Price played in the Final round the Habs stood no chance against any team. Not enough goals scored, not enough goals prevented.

Islanders even if they had beaten Tampa were crap. Habs were good enough to beat them with an average goaltender.

 

[DAChampion]

I don't understand why some fans feel the need to sell the Finals run short. It was a great achievement.

 

[ReHabs]

Islanders even if they had beaten Tampa were crap. Habs were good enough to beat them with an average goaltender.

The Isles gave the Bolts a better go than the Habs did, not sure where you get off calling them crap but the Habs good enough to beat them. The Isles were better than the Habs at the same game the Habs played.

 

[ReHabs]

I don't understand why some fans feel the need to sell the Finals run short. It was a great achievement.

Simply put, it was an argument most often put forth to make the Bergevin-era look like it culminated into something when in fact it was a freak event and all of us who followed that season know the Habs fell apart that season, tumbled ass-first into the playoffs and put on a memorable but otherwise unremarkable run.

In the spring of 2021 Price stood on his head and carried the team until he didn't and we lost. How much should we celebrate this great achievement?

In context: The Habs had won zero playoff rounds* (excl. one "play-in" round during Covid) in the preceding FIVE years and won zero playoff rounds in the succeeding three years (and counting).

It further reinforces that the Finals run was an aberration.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Simply put, it was an argument most often put forth to make the Bergevin-era look like it culminated into something when in fact it was a freak event and all of us who followed that season know the Habs fell apart that season, tumbled ass-first into the playoffs and put on a memorable but otherwise unremarkable run.

In the spring of 2021 Price stood on his head and carried the team until he didn't and we lost. How much should we celebrate this great achievement?

In context: The Habs had won zero playoff rounds* (excl. one "play-in" round during Covid) in the preceding FIVE years and won zero playoff rounds in the succeeding three years (and counting).

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It further reinforces that the Finals run was an aberration.

Remove the covid and it's 7 years of non playoffs.
Dear god our roster was bad

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Remove the covid and it's 7 years of non playoffs.
Dear god our roster was bad

That's second guessing.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

That's second guessing.

Is that you Mike Therrien

 

[Deebs]

I don't understand why some fans feel the need to sell the Finals run short. It was a great achievement.

Because that's what some people do. We won the games we had to and played terrific doing it. It was a great run and was exciting to watch.

 

[BLONG7]

Remove thThe e covid and it's 7 years of non playoffs.
Dear god our roster was bad

The summer of 2017 was our worst fear confirmed........................our GM was in over his head, and all he did was rely on his goalie.