HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Miller Time]

Esti. I've read delusional things, but youre telling me that this :
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Is a top tier bottom 6 ? There's 3 NHL players in there. Other teams have literaly 40 goals scorers on their bottom 6 and multiple 50 points player, our best player is Jake Evans. There's no way youre going to look at me with a straight face and say this.

You think Gally is getting top 6 role this year?

Interesting take, we'll see how that plays out.

Slaf, Suzuki, CC, Newhook, Dach, Roy. That's who I see playing in our top 6 on opening night (barring injury or trade) as of today.


Gally, Anderson, Dvorak, Evans, Armia, Pezzeta, RHP, ABB....

What NHL rosters have a better 7-14 group of players?

I've looked, I don't see more than 5-10 that are better, on paper.

Mind you, I think we have the worse bottom 6 in the league, even the Sharks and Ducks have more talent on their bottom two lines.

Sure, if you are talking the talent of recent top 10 picks lol. Even then, Sharks? Get serious.

All these players are much better than Pezzetta, and I say this as a massive fan of Pezz.

Disagree. Those players all played on cup contending rosters... Inflates the perceived impact considerably when you're playing 10-12min on a cup winning roster vs a bottom 5 roster

 

[Sasha Orlov]

You think Gally is getting top 6 role this year?

Interesting take, we'll see how that plays out.

Slaf, Suzuki, CC, Newhook, Dach, Roy. That's who I see playing in our top 6 on opening night (barring injury or trade) as of today.


Gally, Anderson, Dvorak, Evans, Armia, Pezzeta, RHP, ABB....

What NHL rosters have a better 7-14 group of players?

I've looked, I don't see more than 5-10 that are better, on paper.

Easily a bottom 5 group in the NHL

 

[Miller Time]

Easily a bottom 5 group in the NHL

Nope.

 

[Mrb1p]

You think Gally is getting top 6 role this year?

Interesting take, we'll see how that plays out.

Slaf, Suzuki, CC, Newhook, Dach, Roy. That's who I see playing in our top 6 on opening night (barring injury or trade) as of today.


Gally, Anderson, Dvorak, Evans, Armia, Pezzeta, RHP, ABB....

What NHL rosters have a better 7-14 group of players?

I've looked, I don't see more than 5-10 that are better, on paper.



Sure, if you are talking the talent of recent top 10 picks lol. Even then, Sharks? Get serious.



Disagree. Those players all played on cup contending rosters... Inflates the perceived impact considerably when you're playing 10-12min on a cup winning roster vs a bottom 5 roster

Yes, your delusion is awfully strong.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Easily a bottom 5 group in the NHL

Bottom 10, for sure. Hopefully bad enough to push Cal to 11 if no further changes.

 

[Beer and Chips]

Im sure having sulking overpaid vets who are healthy scratches adds extra happiness to the room.

I remember my first yr college, oh boy i earned a spot as RW (off wing) on 4th line.. the C was an actual vet.. dude was miserable, lol... i was just happy to dress, there were 5 black aces..
Half way through the season, Vet is benched, i get moved to C to lead the rookie line.. effing eh!!! "We" were so full of vigor and excitement we got our minutes equal to 3rd line for playoffs...

That, imo is more important than having an "actual" 4th line joyrneyman. We played every shift like a game 7 playoff... it's actually not that hard to do when youre only on for ~4min/period.. all out!! And guess what? The top two lines fed off of what us rookies were doing!

Winning is created in the room.. on the ice is where you go to war for your mates.

You are chosing the worst case veteran example, this isn't a serious argument.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Yes, your delusion is awfully strong.

They won't finish bottom 10 if Dach can stay healthy.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

They won't finish bottom 10 if Dach can stay healthy.

I wouldn’t count on that - he’s only 23 but in 5 years the most games he’s ever played is 70 in a season. After that it’s 58.

At least he was PPG in the 2 games he played last year.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

You are chosing the worst case veteran example, this isn't a serious argument.

Yes. The kind MB regularly acquired.

I wouldn’t count on that - he’s only 23 but in 5 years the most games he’s ever played is 70 in a season. After that it’s 58.

At least he was PPG in the 2 games he played last year.

I'm not but there is no certainty where the Habs could finish. Without Dach they are certainly a candidate for bottom 5 (if no one else is added). With him likely not bottom 10.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Nope.

You will find out come April 2025 that you are incorrect

 

[Miller Time]

Yes, your delusion is awfully strong.

Ok there mind reader lol

You will find out come April 2025 that you are incorrect

I'm sure you'll enjoy the crow come the spring, best not bite off more than you can chew

 

[Mrb1p]

They won't finish bottom 10 if Dach can stay healthy.

Bottom 10 ? I don't see how they don't. Bottom 5 ? Hard to know.

 

[themilosh]

You are chosing the worst case veteran example, this isn't a serious argument.

Of course it's anecdotal.. my point is having a 4th line that "loves" being a 4th line is far more effective than plugging in a vet 4th liner from another team bc of pts, etc.. and expect the same output..

effective "lines" are made in the room, where linemates want to play with one another, share the common goal of getting better, and want to win for the team..

 

[Lockin17]

Seeing Zegras with CC/Slaf getting together this summer again wants me to get that player.
Not only he's freaking awesome but he would put a good chemistry in the locker room.
But Damn what would be the ask from the Ducks ?

Would you guy's do Reinbacher for Zegras ?
I think i would.

I don't think the Ducks would want quantity but rather quality.

I mean Barron + CGY first +Roy would not cut it.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Seeing Zegras with CC/Slaf getting together this summer again wants me to get that player.
Not only he's freaking awesome but he would put a good chemistry in the locker room.
But Damn what would be the ask from the Ducks ?

Would you guy's do Reinbacher for Zegras ?
I think i would.

I don't think the Ducks would want quantity but rather quality.

I mean Barron + CGY first +Roy would not cut it.

No to either deal.

 

[Lockin17]

They won't finish bottom 10 if Dach can stay healthy.

I beleive it ,
I mean players like Suzuki, Dach, CC, Slaf, Guhle, Newhook etc.. will all be better then last year.
But Again they have to play at least 70 games all together.
I see them having #14 draft pick, right outside of a playoff spot this year.

 

[Rapala]

Easily a bottom 5 group in the NHL

Our good friend the Admiral wrote it's the worst Habs bottom six in history.
That's saying something.

 

[BLONG7]

I beleive it ,
I mean players like Suzuki, Dach, CC, Slaf, Guhle, Newhook etc.. will all be better then last year.
But Again they have to play at least 70 games all together.
I see them having #14 draft pick, right outside of a playoff spot this year.

They will be better, obviously health is the key.
Dach, and Newhook need to play well and often, the 3 goalie carousel is gone, and the amount of one goal games, will slide a little more in our favor.

The key here, is to climb up the ladder, and see the core get better together.
The following season is the one to get excited about...................Demidov will be a huge add.

 

[vokiel]

I feel like offering Harris, Primeau and a 2nd on every single trade proposal involving the Habs.

Got to keep with the traditions..

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

August still no changes , can't wait to see the same 3 rotation every 5 games.
Crazy that we are heading into a new season with the same lineup lol

 

[SwiftyHab]

I feel like offering Harris, Primeau and a 2nd on every single trade proposal involving the Habs.

Got to keep with the traditions..

it’s the new Halal Ryder and a 2nd

 

[Habs10Habs]

it’s the new Halal Ryder and a 2nd

Has anyone ever confirmed that the 2nd could have possibly been Subban? That would have made for an excellent trade lol

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

it’s the new Halal Ryder and a 2nd

Except that Halak was a solid starter and Ryder was a 30 goal scorer.

 

[CHfan1]

Seeing Zegras with CC/Slaf getting together this summer again wants me to get that player.
Not only he's freaking awesome but he would put a good chemistry in the locker room.
But Damn what would be the ask from the Ducks ?

Would you guy's do Reinbacher for Zegras ?
I think i would.

I would be very surprised if many Montreal fans would trade Reinbacher for Zegras. My guess is Reinbacher is going to be an impactful player for Montreal at a very important position (right defence).

 

[Tyson]

I would be very surprised if many Montreal fans would trade Reinbacher for Zegras. My guess is Reinbacher is going to be an impactful player for Montreal at a very important position (right defence).

No way I would trade RB for Zegras.