HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[MarkovsKnee]

We're still using off-season thread, so I made a new one.

Sooo, where we sending Dach now?

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[waitin425]

We're still using off-season thread, so I made a new one.

Sooo, where we sending Dach now?

Nowhere. Let's see if he can rebound to January 2023 form. He was dynamite in the back half of that season.

 

[vokiel]

We're still using off-season thread, so I made a new one.

Sooo, where we sending Dach now?

Anywhere they want him for a RD.

That's probably not too many places, his fans can rest easy.

 

[Benstheman]

Yeah he is going nowhere this season. He is a need in himself as we have absolutely have no other options at center for our 2nd line, at least until Hage comes in and PROVES he can do the job, which is not a guarantee.

So unless we use Dach in a trade to fill the only bigger need we have, which is top pair RHD, we will ride him.

Anll in all, it doesn't make sense to trade Dach at his lowest value and if he gets back on track, we keep him because we badly need him.

 

[Goalfield13]

Anywhere they want him for a RD.

That's probably not too many places, his fans can rest easy.

If Dach is goin to be traded for a RD, the following needs to happen:

1. Play a full healthy season
2. Produce as a 2C
3. Kapanen emerges as an option, and Hage continues his production in the NCAA

1 and 2 are needed to build his value. This would be an offseason move.

 

[vokiel]

If Dach is goin to be traded for a RD, the following needs to happen:

1. Play a full healthy season
2. Produce as a 2C
3. Kapanen emerges as an option, and Hage continues his production in the NCAA

1 and 2 are needed to build his value. This would be an offseason move.

No it doesn't, the proof is he didn't have any of this, when KH decided to invest a 1st rounder for him.

You find another GM who likes to gamble, that's all it takes.

 

[Goalfield13]

No it doesn't, the proof is he didn't have any of this, when KH decided to invest a 1st rounder for him.

You find another GM who likes to gamble, that's all it takes.

He gambled on a player who was recently drafted. It was a good gamble at the time and could still pay off; however, Dach is not that kind of gamble anymore and doesn't have the same kind of value. He's played 66 games since we got him, man. He needs a full season.

 

[vokiel]

He gambled on a player who was recently drafted. It was a good gamble at the time and could still pay off; however, Dach is not that kind of gamble anymore and doesn't have the same kind of value. He's played 66 games since we got him, man. He needs a full season.

Wrong again, he had over 150 games played with the Blackhawks and missed almost an entire season due to injury.

It's... the same gamble on the same player. If you can find a GM who still trusts that it's only bad luck, that the player has tons of potential and has a decent RD to trade, I would move him out. He's not worth a lottery first, that's correct, but a vet with only 2 seasons left on his deal who can dish top pair minutes, maybe.

 

[Goalfield13]

Wrong again, he had over 150 games played with the Blackhawks and missed almost an entire season due to injury.

It's... the same gamble on the same player. If you can find a GM who still trusts that it's only bad luck, that the player has tons of potential and has a decent RD to trade, I would move him out. He's not worth a lottery first, that's correct, but a vet with only 2 seasons left on his deal who can dish top pair minutes, maybe.

Wrong. It isn't the same gamble at all. His value was much higher when we got him. You just made my argument for me. He played 150 games with the Hawks and played 70 games right before we traded for him. He was also three years younger, was cheaper, and had more team control. Give me a break, man. LOL!

He just came off a year where he played 2 games for us. Only an idiot would trade for him right now. He has 1 point in 6 games after being hurt for an entire season. He needs to play a full season and produce in order to to get value for him.

I don't know how someone could be as wrong as you right now. So wrong.

 

[Benstheman]

Wrong again, he had over 150 games played with the Blackhawks and missed almost an entire season due to injury.

It's... the same gamble on the same player. If you can find a GM who still trusts that it's only bad luck, that the player has tons of potential and has a decent RD to trade, I would move him out. He's not worth a lottery first, that's correct, but a vet with only 2 seasons left on his deal who can dish top pair minutes, maybe.

There might be a deal to make with Calgary for Andersson. They are looking for a young center right now. But i'm pretty sure if the deal would be done right now, we would have to add big time.

Anyway, i think Calgary will wait in the summer to see if Andersson would resign with them.trade Rasmus

 

[The Real Timo]

Dvorak gets put out there to take all the important faceoffs. That's gotta be worth a lot. Maybe a second line center who just not as a great at faceoffs as Dvorak? Perhaps add a 2nd round pick to that. Lol.

In seriousness, Habs, once again, don't have a second line. So Kenny boy, whatever you need to do, do it. Get us that second line that can contribute on the scoreboard. Newhook and Dach are not it.

 

[vokiel]

There might be a deal to make with Calgary for Andersson. They are looking for a young center right now. But i'm pretty sure if the deal would be done right now, we would have to add big time.

Anyway, i think Calgary will wait in the summer to see if Andersson would resign with them.trade Rasmus

Yes, that's why I went with the proposal. We'd love to acquire Andersson, because Savard can no longer provide the minutes and there was that rumor out of Calgary they were looking at a center.

Could have been anyone in the league, but we have: Beck, Kapanen, Dach and maybe Newhook who fit the description.

Dvorak gets put out there to take all the important faceoffs. That's gotta be worth a lot. Maybe a second line center who just not as a great at faceoffs as Dvorak? Perhaps add a 2nd round pick to that. Lol.

In seriousness, Habs, once again, don't have a second line. So Kenny boy, whatever you need to do, do it. Get us that second line that can contribute on the scoreboard. Newhook and Dach are not it.

Looking at his stats at game #6 he's at 43.2%, he sucks. He ain't worth a waiver wire atm.

 

[The Real Timo]

Yes, that's why I went with the proposal. We'd love to acquire Andersson, because Savard can no longer provide the minutes and there was that rumor out of Calgary they were looking at a center.

Could have been anyone in the league, but we have: Beck, Kapanen, Dach and maybe Newhook who fit the description.


Looking at his stats at game #6 he's at 43.2%, he sucks. He ain't worth a waiver wire atm.

Newhook. Let's give Calgary him for Andersson. I am not ready to give up on Beck, Kap and even Dach just yet.

 

[Be a Hab]

So, some people think we should trade Dach for a RD? Interesting, but personally, I would rather keep him for this season and actually see what we have. I want to see if he can start building on his last performances and actually find some consistency has an NHL'er.

 

[Ezpz]

I think we just need better vets to insulate the youngins. Gallagher, Anderson and armia can't teach you how to be a star or play on the top six of an NHL team. Matheson can't be a steady hand to help guide guys into defensive responsibility. Savard can't even keep up with the play this year. Mainboards dunking on Hutson over Savard getting him three of his minuses in the -4 game.

Need a real steady vet defender bad. I'm assuming Laine was supposed to be the top six vet so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Armia certainly isn't going to help Dach get going.

 

[morhilane]

Calgary want a (middle 6) center because they decided they won't be tanking with their season start. They aren't trading Andersson for one.

 

[Benstheman]

Calgary want a (middle 6) center because they decided they won't be tanking with their season start. They aren't trading Andersson for one.

Yeah. I always thought trading Andersson during the season didn't make sense anyways. They will only trade him during the summer if he doesn't want to sign an extension with them.

 

[Goalfield13]

There might be a deal to make with Calgary for Andersson. They are looking for a young center right now. But i'm pretty sure if the deal would be done right now, we would have to add big time.

Anyway, i think Calgary will wait in the summer to see if Andersson would resign with them.trade Rasmus

You are correct. This is why I said we need Dach to stay healthy and produce as a 2C. He does that, and a trade with Calgary becomes much easier. We will likely still need to add, but we should have the assets for that easily.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Yeah. I always thought trading Andersson during the season didn't make sense anyways. They will only trade him during the summer if he doesn't want to sign an extension with them.

They might trade him if they're out of the race for a playoff spot at the TDL and/or if he asks for it.
I think the probability is still pretty high.

 

[vokiel]

They might trade him if they're out of the race for a playoff spot at the TDL and/or if he asks for it.
I think the probability is still pretty high.

The probability seems to be proportional to the return. Next season, if they wait, it'll be a late 1st and what a 3rd maybe.

 

[vokiel]

Calgary want a (middle 6) center because they decided they won't be tanking with their season start. They aren't trading Andersson for one.

Or they're getting a window of opportunity to trade Huberdeau, and just want to replace him in the long run?

 

[Captain Mountain]

Or they're getting a window of opportunity to trade Huberdeau, and just want to replace him in the long run?

I'd probably trust what their management actually says and what insiders say (ones like Friedman who are leaked stuff), and it sounds like their intention is to do more of a Bergevin-style retool.

 

[morhilane]

Or they're getting a window of opportunity to trade Huberdeau, and just want to replace him in the long run?

Huberdeau isn't playing center for the Flames. They are probably looking at a long term replacement for Backlund (he's 35) and an upgrade on Pospisil this year. Who's also right handed, because all their centers are left handed.

 

[The Real Timo]

No pre-game thread yet so mods can remove this if it violates whatever rule.

Read in Le Journal that Slaf is "incertain" for tomorrow, Matheson is still getting treatments and Guhle not at practice and being evaluated on a daily basis.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/10/21/canadien-guhle-absent-journee-de-traitements-pour-slafkovsky-et-matheson

 

[Beendair Donedat]

If you guys think Dach is being traded anytime soon, you haven’t been listening to Kent Hughes gush about him every time he does a presser.

He’s struggling after missing an entire season with a serious injury. It’s both a physical and mental recovery period. He will round into form but it will take some time. He’s viewed as one of the core players by our GM and Gorton.