Speculation: Trade: Phillips to Winnipeg

[Kevin Musto]

His play has been underwhelming, looks disinterested and lazy

That's how he plays hockey

Did you watch him in his draft year?

I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing, just that it's nothing new

 

[OldScool]

That's how he plays hockey

Did you watch him in his draft year?

I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing, just that it's nothing new

I didn't see a ton of him last year but WTF. I am not a scout but how in the world did he end up being the #2 overall? He skates OK, he isn't physical, his shot is mediocre at best at all and lacks effort at times...I get he is 19 but he should have some skills that are off the charts for a selection that high....now add the off ice stuff and I would be worried.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I didn't see a ton of him last year but WTF. I am not a scout but how in the world did he end up being the #2 overall? He skates OK, he isn't physical, his shot is mediocre at best at all and lacks effort at times...I get he is 19 but he should have some skills that are off the charts for a selection that high....now add the off ice stuff and I would be worried.

I think you need to learn how to watch hockey. He skates pretty well, and he has a decent amount of skill. I wasn't a huge fan of the pick ,but to say he doesn't have the skill or skating, is just, wrong.

 

[OldScool]

I think you need to learn how to watch hockey. He skates pretty well, and he has a decent amount of skill. I wasn't a huge fan of the pick ,but to say he doesn't have the skill or skating, is just, wrong.

Oh I know how to watch hockey. I am not saying he doesn't have skill....I am saying he doesn't seem to have any elite skills that would make him the #2 overall selection. If I am picking a kid at #2 he should have some elite level characteristics....maybe an unreal shot or fantastic size or great skating ability. Lev to me looks like just another guy out there. I don't think I have seen one highlight play all season long.

 

[EmeticDonut]

I think some are expecting a little too much from barely a 19-year old in their first pro season who just three years ago was playing in Belarus. Give the kid some slack, plenty of scouts saw something in him to rank him among the top of his class.

 

[Space umpire]

It was a silly hypothetical to ponder in place of the more obvious evidence that exists.

I agree, your hypothetical was silly.

 

[WarriorofTime]

I agree, your hypothetical was silly.

Come on man, take the L. You made a foolish post that made little sense.

 

[Space umpire]

I didn't see a ton of him last year but WTF. I am not a scout but how in the world did he end up being the #2 overall? He skates OK, he isn't physical, his shot is mediocre at best at all and lacks effort at times...I get he is 19 but he should have some skills that are off the charts for a selection that high....now add the off ice stuff and I would be worried.

The off ice stuff? He f***ing overslept and missed 1 meeting.
What off ice stuff are you referencing?

Come on man, take the L. You made a foolish post that made little sense.

Sure, it’s however you want it to be.

You are the one who made statements of fact about something you have no way of knowing is factual.

 

[WarriorofTime]

The off ice stuff? He f***ing overslept and missed 1 meeting.
What off ice stuff are you referencing?


Sure, it’s however you want it to be.

You are the one who made statements of fact about something you have no way of knowing is factual.

Oh ok, carry on insulting Hawk prospects and saying they need "blankies", and implying that me actually laying out the facts as they stand related to Isaak Phillips is somehow the equivalent because you put the word IF in front of it.

Ridiculous...

 

[Space umpire]

Come on man, take the L. You made a foolish post that made little sense.

You PRETEND you know facts (that you have no way of knowing) and my post is foolish?

Just pretend it’s anyway you want it to be.

 

[WarriorofTime]

You PRETEND you know facts (that you have no way of knowing) and my post is foolish?

Just pretend it’s anyway you want it to be.

What facts did I "pretend" to know? Seriously what are you even talking about. Do you understand stuff like prospects, salary cap, waiver-exemption, restricted free agency.. like at all?

If (IF) it becomes public that the team took the L (talent wise) because they are convinced Lev needs a blankie it certainly could be telling.

because this does not seem like you do

 

[Space umpire]

Oh ok, carry on insulting Hawk prospects and saying they need "blankies", and implying that me actually laying out the facts as they stand related to Isaak Phillips is somehow the equivalent because you put the word IF in front of it.

Ridiculous...

You don’t know the facts as they relate to Phillips. You don’t KNOW that the Jets didn’t contact Chicago seeking a more experienced and cheap 6-7-8 guy.
You f***ing made up a scenario and claimed it as a fact.
Most posts on the trade board and the Jets board feel the jets got the better player.
Some are saying (not me) that this was done to give him a friend in Rockford.
I WROTE that I thought it had more to do with buying 2 years (renew the lottery ticket) but IF it was in fact taking an L on the value in /value out to help out the kid that would be a red flag.

Now go f*** yourself.

 

[WarriorofTime]

You don’t know the facts as they relate to Phillips.

Yes I do. Everything I laid out is public information, formed from being a fan and following the team. Feel free to refute any of them, of course you cannot.

You don’t KNOW that the Jets didn’t contact Chicago seeking a more experienced and cheap 6-7-8 guy.

What? Who said they didn't? Sure, perhaps they did kick the tires on finding a cheap organizational depth guy and the Hawks were like "hey yeah actually, we have a guy that may be ok if he gets a chance". In fact, my post supports/not contradicts that.

You f***ing made up a scenario and claimed it as a fact.

I did no such thing.

Most posts on the trade board and the Jets board feel the jets got the better player.

...and I would agree, but outlined the reasons the Hawks would be ok in a "do right" fashion to trade him anyways.

Some are saying (not me) that this was done to give him a friend in Rockford.

What you don't understand is the primary impetus was not "we need to find a way to get Lev a friend, how do we do that??" but more so a "do right" to Phillips so he has a better shot of securing an NHL Contract next season and the warm body going the other way just so happened to be a friend of a top prospect, rather than than a thousand other guys it could have been

I WROTE that I thought it had more to do with buying 2 years (renew the lottery ticket) but IF it was in fact taking an L on the value in /value out to help out the kid that would be a red flag.

Yes, it's your "IF... then RED FLAG" that is foolish and for which you ought to just accept was a silly premise.

Now go f*** yourself.

lol

 

[GIADF]

You don’t know the facts as they relate to Phillips. You don’t KNOW that the Jets didn’t contact Chicago seeking a more experienced and cheap 6-7-8 guy.
You f***ing made up a scenario and claimed it as a fact.
Most posts on the trade board and the Jets board feel the jets got the better player.
Some are saying (not me) that this was done to give him a friend in Rockford.
I WROTE that I thought it had more to do with buying 2 years (renew the lottery ticket) but IF it was in fact taking an L on the value in /value out to help out the kid that would be a red flag.

Now go f*** yourself.

You are such an angry poster all the time. Take a breath, sheesh.

 

[Space umpire]

You are such an angry poster all the time. Take a breath, sheesh.

LOL, I’m sitting in my yard in Cocoa Beach, vodka/soda in hand, small fire in the pit.

Calling out people who make stuff up, posting it as fact isn’t being angry.
Not angry at all. Life is good.

 

[Muffinalt]

What a strange thread this turned out be.