Proposal: Trade MTL - NJ

[My3Sons]

I agree with your assessment.... That's why I would target him.

He could be the next Bergeron, Who knows!!!

That's high praise, but you don't trade a player like that. Caufield may turn out to be a game breaking player. Certainly a wonderful player to have on your team, but NJ has a number of smaller skilled forwards and needs to all around players to mesh with them.

 

[Qwijibo]

I hate this place sometimes. 4 games into the season and it’s time to move a 20 year old potential star? Take a breath and step away from the keyboard.

 

[Guttersniped]

With the start of the season MTL is getting, is it time to move some pieces?

To NJ - Caufield - Chariot.
to MTL - Mercer - Subban - 1st 2022

I have my hard hat.... Hit me.

Mercer-mania is in full bloom on the Devils bloom so that’s a tough sell here. We love our Newfie. And there’s zero chance Montreal trades Caulfield, particularly for futures.

Also we need that 1st to grab one of the many RHD in the first round of this draft. That’s a huge weakness of our prospect pool and an absurd strength of this draft. The East and the Metro is pretty deep, we’re improved but I don’t know how improved so that 1st could pretty good in this draft.

Also the Devils don’t have any need to move Subban and I don’t even understand what is happening in the swap of UFA defensemen.

 

[goonybird]

I don't think potential lottery teams should give up their first rounder, even if it's top-5 protected.

 

[FMBrooklyn]

I pass as a Devils fan. Mercer is exactly the type of two way player we need to be successful. Give this kid a few more years to grow into a man and will have a very good player.

 

[hidek91]

Consider reuniting Hughes and Caufield.
You already have 2 good centers (Hughues and Hischier)
Protect the 1st round (top 5).... deal?

I think it's a fair deal, not an easy one to make.

But why would we reunite Hughes with Caufield when we already have scoring winger (Holtz) who could potentially play with him?

Sure, Holtz may bust altogether but the very same risk exists for Caufield (and for Mercer as well) and I'm not sure why would we take this risk when the price tag is so high? Top 5 protection makes it a bit better but this deal is bad (at least in my opinion) if it ends up any top 16 pick.

And again, Mercer's performance so far makes it even easier to reject.

No disrespect to your prospect, it's just that Mercer seems like a super important asset for a rebuilding team and 2022 1st may be that as well.

 

[barrie colts]

Mercer-mania is in full bloom on the Devils bloom so that’s a tough sell here. We love our Newfie. And there’s zero chance Montreal trades Caulfield, particularly for futures.

Also we need that 1st to grab one of the many RHD in the first round of this draft. That’s a huge weakness of our prospect pool and an absurd strength of this draft. The East and the Metro is pretty deep, we’re improved but I don’t know how improved so that 1st could pretty good in this draft.

Also the Devils don’t have any need to move Subban and I don’t even understand what is happening in the swap of UFA defensemen.

"Also the Devils don’t have any need to move Subban and I don’t even understand what is happening in the swap of UFA defensemen."

Chariot is overall better than Subban... on "PK" (pun intended) / 5 on 5, add toughness and you have a solid "D" complementing Hamilton.
You can probably sign him to 3-4 years at 4M (if the fit is good).
Will you make an offer to Subban for next year?
Call it an early trade deadline move giving you a longer tem evaluation period.

Really not a deal breaker, just a potential benefit for Devils.

 

[Guttersniped]

"Also the Devils don’t have any need to move Subban and I don’t even understand what is happening in the swap of UFA defensemen."

Chariot is overall better than Subban... on "PK" (pun intended) / 5 on 5, add toughness and you have a solid "D" complementing Hamilton.
You can probably sign him to 3-4 years at 4M (if the fit is good).
Will you make an offer to Subban for next year?
Call it an early trade deadline move giving you a longer tem evaluation period.

Really not a deal breaker, just a potential benefit for Devils.

I don’t know if the Devils would be interested in trading for a 30 year old UFA LHD after we just traded for two younger ones: Graves, who is doing pretty well with Hamilton, and Siegenthaler. Ty Smith is also a LHD and we’re reasonably deep in that position in terms of prospects.

I’m certainly not attached to Subban and Chariot could easily be better, and even a perhaps potentially good fit for the Devils, but we have two newly acquired younger players and a sophomore top prospect on the left side already.

 

[justHypnos]

I'd rather Mercer over Caufield. If Caufield doesn't turn into an elite player, Mercer will be more valuable because of his size, position, and defensive ability. I wouldn't trade the 2022 1st for Caufield straight up either. I don't think 2 games against awful teams starting their back-ups is enough to forget that NJ was the 3rd worst team in the league last season.

Plus, we hopefully already have a Caufield in Holtz.

 

[Treb]

If we're rebuilding/re-tooling, Caufield is not one of the players we should be moving.

 

[Jerkbait]

With the start of the season MTL is getting, is it time to move some pieces?

To NJ - Caufield - Chariot.
to MTL - Mercer - Subban - 1st 2022

I have my hard hat.... Hit me.

Well we agree Montreal needs a change but this imst the answer at all. Jersey laughs at MB. Maybe Carolina could help em out??

 

[Smitty426]

Holy overrated. Mercer has one tap in goal and people think he's better than caufield.

It's not just that the '22 has got to be added, and Mercer is gonna be good

 

[Miller Time]

If we're rebuilding/re-tooling, Caufield is not one of the players we should be moving.

"If"

 

[Treb]

"If"

Is MB currently doing a rebuild/retool? No.

 

[Hisch13r]

No. Rather have PK than Chiarot and I'm not giving up a 1st to go from Mercer to Caufield. Giving up our 1st would be incredibly dumb.

 

[Billdo]

With the start of the season MTL is getting, is it time to move some pieces?

To NJ - Caufield - Chariot.
to MTL - Mercer - Subban - 1st 2022

I have my hard hat.... Hit me.

No

 

[Eggtimer]

Both are going to be very good but Caufield has the higher upside to me.

Agree. I think Caufield scores more but Mercer is looking to be good at face offs already , can PK , excellent stick on defence , never stops or gives up on a play (not saying Caufield does) . It’s jus that Mercer is exactly the type of player the Devils need.
We have Holtz for Hughes wing playing the Caufield role with hopefully Foote being the eventual second line shooter so I do t think the Devils would trade for Caufield at the cost of Mercer plus a first .

 

[McDuffz88]

Holy overrated. Mercer has one tap in goal and people think he's better than caufield.

Its not about the tap in goal. He's a high end prospect & lit it up in preseason forcing his way onto the team. He played much better then anyone expected him too & has been quite the surprise. As of this moment he's a 3c & looking good doing it. This to me says he at the minimum becomes a high end two way 2c. If that's the case I pick that over a high end winger.

 

[TBF1972]

Consider reuniting Hughes and Caufield.
You already have 2 good centers (Hughues and Hischier)
Protect the 1st round (top 5).... deal?

I think it's a fair deal, not an easy one to make.

the devils have drafted holtz for the same purpose, you want to sell them caufield. they also have sharangovich, who showed potential as a goal scorer on hughes' wing.

honestly this devils fan rather not trade for caufield with intention to reunite him and jack for any asking price. hughes himself is of small stature and adding caufield to his wing, looks not ideal to me - regardless of the chemistry those two showed, when they were playing for the us development team. their time in the us development team is in the past. their chemistry is in the past. i rather build for the future of the devils, which definitely includes the 2022 first round pick.

if you want a retained subban on your team, we can discuss. but the devils won't pay to off-load his contract, as they have no urgent need for the cap space.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Holy overrated. Mercer has one tap in goal and people think he's better than caufield.

and Caufield has 4 career goals my guy (if we're going to play that game)

 

[Eggtimer]

I can see how a person could argue that Mercer is a better asset than Caufield and I can see how people could say Caufield is the better player. Giving up a first plus Mercer … no thanks

 

[General Fanager]

With the start of the season MTL is getting, is it time to move some pieces?

To NJ - Caufield - Chariot.
to MTL - Mercer - Subban - 1st 2022

I have my hard hat.... Hit me.

You are right in that it may be time to move some pieces, what you are dead wrong about is the pieces you try to move.

Caufield isn't going anywhere. Also Subban is a non starter. Do. Not. Want.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I can see how a person could argue that Mercer is a better asset than Caufield and I can see how people could say Caufield is the better player. Giving up a first plus Mercer … no thanks

People think we should overpay to get rid of the Subban contract when in reality they can comfortably afford to keep him. In addition I think that Mercer is the more valuable asset to the Devils, Caufield may end up being the better player, but he's not what they need. I couldn't imagine having him and Hughes on the same line, they'd get absolutely bodied every night

 

[ChicksDigTheTrap]

With the start of the season MTL is getting, is it time to move some pieces?

To NJ - Caufield - Chariot.
to MTL - Mercer - Subban - 1st 2022

I have my hard hat.... Hit me.

You have a sharp eye. Mercer plus a 1st for Caufield would be a STEAL for MTL. Mercer is going nowhere.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Don't think NJ should be trading Mercer for an AHLer