ah sorry misread. yes i would do that to get debrincat, but idk if Ottawa will be seriously shopping him
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Isn't Debrincat in the exact same situation as Dubois contractually. We'd just have the same issue with him unless he signs with us long term. Also I don't know that he's a player type we really need with Conner, Ehlers and Perfetti already in the top 6.
yeah it depends if he's going to extend of course. if PLD is willing to sign long-term then you just sign him, but i dont think that has been the case.
however, if debrincat is extend I take - in a roundabout way - PLD for Debrincat 10x/10. that's 3 top 6 wingers you named, you still need one more - or if they beleive Perfetti is a 2C next season, then you need 2. And id say Debrincat is close to being the best of the bunch. Wheeler (assuming you left him out b/c you dont view him as a top-6 winger) will be a year away from UFA, Ehlers will be 2.
And it's not like the Jets can't use more goal scoring on top of that. you'd have to look elsewhere for a 2C (if they do not believe Perfetti can C effectively). With Wheeler a year away before UFA maybe move his contract to free up cap-space if necessary.
id say the chances ottawa moving debrincat are slim though. they just traded a top-10 pick+ for him. i think they'll try their best to re-sign him and it's not like they've been shy on spending money now.
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There's a RWer playing for Philly I wouldn't mind on the team.
Over a point per game player this year.
Over a point per game player this year.
That's sort of what I was thinking. If they lose PLD, then they will really need to find a top6 forward to replace him
if you do move perfetti to C, then you need another top-6 wing which would be a bit easier to find than a top-6 C id think. i don't know if there's a team out there that is or would be trading their own current top-6 C for PLD. so you might have a couple transactions to make.
Perfecto has somewhat alleviated my centre ice panic if Pierre Luc Dubois does want to move on. For sure wingers are easier to get.
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Looking at it in a take what you can get sort of way, Debrincat would be better than nothing. But I don't see him as being any of the things we would need. He is not a C, he is not a top 4 (top 2) RHD and he is very small. He makes KC, Ehlers and Perfetti look big.
I would rather take a rental price on PLD and take my chances on the futures.
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The Jets were always 1 top-6 injury away from looking thin. They have fared well in Ehlers absence but time for Chevy to get some forward help by trading a D and opening up a spot for Heinola in the process if possible.
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3 top 9 out, hoping someone could step up but considering trade options as well
That makes sense in theory, but is there a trade partner. Is there a good forward available that they are interested in? It would be so interesting to know the behind the scenes discussions.
I would think Ottawa and Vancouver are both getting pretty desperate to make a move.
Chevy should be asking himself one question and then asking Schmidt the same question for some locker room intel “brock, bo or JT?” Then give Dorian a call about debrincat
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With what assets? Jets are a draft and develop team, that just had a good draft. Take away that draft and the Jets best prospects not playing for the Jets are Heinola, Lucius, Torgersson. No one has any intel if the Russians plan on ever leaving their country, and if they have Winnipeg on their map, that might be the best prospects to trade, but they aren't going to get you a big fish, at this point.
Jets don't have a 2nd or 4th round pick next year. Probably aren't willing to put their 1st on the table.
I'd take a low risk, low value trade like Kasperi Kapanen (at least 20% retained) for a 5th round pick, since the team has two of those, and RW is the thinnest position in the organization until the Jets feel comfortable with Lambert being an option. But big name hunting going into an uncertain offseason seems like a move that could backfire easily. Or at the very least cost the team the prospect currency it will take to rebuild/retool it.
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I know the Jets are thin on F but expecting Sami Kapanen to come out of retirement?
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Doesn't have to be Robertson but if they aren't going to play Ville something along these lines could make sense.
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Not sure if the Leafs do that. They seem to be big game hunting. I think we might see Ville on Saturday hopefully he can take his opportunity and run with it
It looks like Ville is set to get his opportunity. Reports yesterday is that his game has really picked up on the Moose and he got his call up. After he gets a practice in I'd be looking to see him in the line up tomorrow. After that his play will dictate further games. I wouldn't be surprised if he ran with this opportunity.
I've been feeling like this is the plan for a while.... in one of his media scrums last year, Chevy referred to Perfetti as a center, and that stuck with me.
I think they've known for a while it's unlikely Dubois stays, so that's why they went the extra mile to make sure Scheifele is happy.
I see the "Chevy plan" as:
* Wheeler walks after next year. His money is used elsewhere
* extend Scheifele this summer
* extend Hellebuyck this summer
* trade PLD at the draft.
* next year, Perfetti is the #2C. Lambert is a possible wildcard here, but next year feels too soon.
You can really maximize the return for PLD, because now you don't NEED a center back. Could be a winger, could be a D, could be just prospects & picks to flip for something else. We would also have a LOT of cap space in this scenario, so you could really do just about anything, trade-wise.
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They need Matthews to show up 5v5. I don't think a panic move for goals is what they need, that defence isn't going to hold long term - we know Jordie Benn isn't long for an NHL roster.
I'd do the Ville for Robertson swap. Don't ask Leaf fans though, they value Robertson very highly.
even outside of matthews their secondary scoring hasn't shown up this year. Bunting recently had a 2g game but prior to that he had 2 in 16, and 4 in 18 overall now. kerfoot 1 in 18 too. and benn vs heinola... we already know how that plays out
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I think the risk is just too great to move Ville at this point. Lets see him get into some games first. He just might be ready to claim a spot.
everything ultimately depends if PLD is interested in singing w/ any other team other than MTL. if he has no plans of extending with the acquiring team, then i am leaning towards us getting a rental price for him 1st+, likely from a PO team (i doubt a rebuild team will trade high 1sts for a player that wont extend). as for a D or C back, i haven't seen any high quality players rumored to be available, & again unless he is extending with that team, why would they make that trade? perhaps if the D or C are in a similar contract situation (basically our problem for yours), but haven't seen any names.
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