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I think people oversimplify it when they look at it as "just as 1st rounder". The Rangers 1st rounder is going to most likely be a 1st around 15th-18th overall. That's more valuable than an Oilers 1st which will probably be around 26th-30th overall. It's not a huge value difference but it's probably the difference of about a 2nd.

they should have a good idea on who's going to be moved. and if it's even close they could already have a guy or two on the way. they can always send them back.

They wouldn't have a guy on the way unless they knew a trade was definitely going to happen. I also figure there are some rules in the CBA that prohibit players from traveling unless they're officially being recalled.
 
Mike Rupp was on the Pat McAfee show yesterday and said that rumour was out there. Unfortunately, VGK doesn't have a ton of young players or picks.
It's going to have to be Connelly-Sapovaliv as probably their best prospects right now and picks. They don't have a 1st until 2027, but have 2nd's both this year and next.
 
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It's Vegas so you can never dismiss anything, but I'm not sure I really see a need for Karlsson there long-term. I know Theodore is out right now, but their top-4 is set for the next couple of years with Pietrangelo, Theodore, McNabb and Hanifin. It's not that they can't make it work, I'm just not sure it really makes much sense for them to do it.

Assuming the deal would involve Hague coming back to the Penguins (Hague plus Theodore on LTIR gets them the money for Karlsson), their defense when healthy would be set up to be:

Theodore-Pietrangelo
Hanifin-Whitecloud
McNabb-Karlsson

Which is pretty sick. But still, I'm skeptical they'd do it and I'm not sure if they'd have the money to have all of Pietrangelo, Theodore, Hanifin and Karlsson making $7+ million going forward.
 
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It's Vegas so you can never dismiss anything, but I'm not sure I really see a need for Karlsson there long-term. I know Theodore is out right now, but their top-4 is set for the next couple of years with Pietrangelo, Theodore, McNabb and Hanifin. It's not that they can't make it work, I'm just not sure it really makes much sense for them to do it.

Assuming the deal would involve Hague coming back to the Penguins (Hague plus Theodore on LTIR gets them the money for Karlsson), their defense when healthy would be set up to be:

Theodore-Pietrangelo
Hanifin-Whitecloud
McNabb-Karlsson

Which is pretty sick. But still, I'm skeptical they'd do it and I'm not sure if they'd have the money to have all of Pietrangelo, Theodore, Hanifin and Karlsson making $7+ million going forward.
For Connelly, Sapovaliv, Hague, a 2nd, and their 2027 1st I'd retain Karlsson down to 5MM.
 
For Connelly, Sapovaliv, Hague, a 2nd, and their 2027 1st I'd retain Karlsson down to 5MM.

I guess retaining Karlsson down to $5 million would definitely make it more doable for Vegas. I want to say Pittsburgh wouldn't want to retain that much, but the actual money being retained there isn't all that significant. I think the Penguins would be eating like $7-$8 million total at 50% retention.
 
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I guess retaining Karlsson down to $5 million would definitely make it more doable for Vegas. I want to say Pittsburgh wouldn't want to retain that much, but the actual money being retained there isn't all that significant. I think the Penguins would be eating like $7-$8 million total at 50% retention.
It's not that much, in the end we are also getting back 2 retention spots with Petry and Smith coming off the books at the end of this season and 2.8 million in total. For a return like that, I'd hold 50% of EK for 2 seasons, we should be ok

Well Connelly may be good at hockey but he's a terrible human and a real sh1thead.
Maybe he will make MS quit?
 
I don't think you'd also get Connelly in that Karlsson deal. Hague, Sapoliv, a 2027 1st and a 2025 2nd for Karlsson at 50% seems pretty reasonable on paper to me.

If Hague was like 3 years younger, I'd be penciling him in as the long term LD. But he's 26 already, so I'm not sure if he's the ideal age to be a long-term member of the defense. I'd definitely keep him in the short term but I'd probably expect him to be a trade piece in the next couple of years.

If they get Clarke in a Rakell to LA deal, I really like a Hague-Clarke pair for the next couple of years though.
 
Ya'll think the Ducks would ever kick tires on EK65?

Plenty of cap space. They've been on a decent run and aren't technically out of the WC race.

Their right side is abysmal.
 
Honestly, my expectations have tanked today. Unless they smuggled WBS players out, we're not trading anyone outside of Gryz bc "wE cANt FiLl a RoSTer"

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That's a pretty nice haul

With Hague coming in, we have flexibility to move Schenn for another decent haul I think.

In the end, KD probably does nothing!! :rolleyes:

I don't think Hague would make Schenn redundant, Hague plays LD while Schenn plays RD.

I figure 2 of their D pairs would be Hague-Letang and Kolyachonok-Schenn if they were to do that trade. With Grzelcyk also going, I have no clue who would be on their other D pair.
 
Well Connelly may be good at hockey but he's a terrible human and a real sh1thead.
16 year old boys say and do monumentally stupid shit. Always have and always will. This generation has the misfortune of their stupid shit being broadcast to the world.

I'm not going to write someone off as a terrible human for being an idiot at 16.
 
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It's Vegas so you can never dismiss anything, but I'm not sure I really see a need for Karlsson there long-term. I know Theodore is out right now, but their top-4 is set for the next couple of years with Pietrangelo, Theodore, McNabb and Hanifin. It's not that they can't make it work, I'm just not sure it really makes much sense for them to do it.

Assuming the deal would involve Hague coming back to the Penguins (Hague plus Theodore on LTIR gets them the money for Karlsson), their defense when healthy would be set up to be:

Theodore-Pietrangelo
Hanifin-Whitecloud
McNabb-Karlsson

Which is pretty sick. But still, I'm skeptical they'd do it and I'm not sure if they'd have the money to have all of Pietrangelo, Theodore, Hanifin and Karlsson making $7+ million going forward.
Generally agree but Vegas is crazy. They could bring in Karlsson and then ship him out by next deadline and not give any shits about it. Not saying they are truly in on him, but wouldn’t surprise me
 
Honestly, my expectations have tanked today. Unless they smuggled WBS players out, we're not trading anyone outside of Gryz bc "wE cANt FiLl a RoSTer"

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They can trade 2 forwards and 1 defenseman without needing to call anyone up.

I'm expecting one of Beauvillier or Rakell, Grzelcyk and Acciari to all be gone and them running with this tonight:

Beauvillier/Rakell-Crosby-Rust
Novak-Malkin-Tomasino
Heinen-Hayes-Bemstrom
Lizotte-Glass-Imama

Shea-Leatng
Graves-Karlsson
Kolyachonok-Schenn

If they can make a trade earlier today or trade with someone on the west coast, I think they could do more than this and have another trade. It would be kinda funny if Karlsson to Vegas happens and Karlsson and Hague just swap teams.
 
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