Pre-Game Talk: Trade Deadline Shenanigans II

[BigKing]

While they are pros, I'd be a little weary of picking up a guy who you know doesn't want to leave his current team and is pretty much guaranteed to go back there in three months: especially a division rival.

Makes me question compete level, motivation etc.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

While they are pros, I'd be a little weary of picking up a guy who you know doesn't want to leave his current team and is pretty much guaranteed to go back there in three months: especially a division rival.

Makes me question compete level, motivation etc.

Agreed.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Scuderi-Doughty
Mitchell-Voynov
Martinez-Greene

May be the best blueline to win a Cup since the lockout in 2005. They were that good, all in their primes, all producing, and none of them injured. It literally does not get better than that. We'll never see a defense like that again.

Hindsight is awesome, eh? Nobody had that outlook of the Kings d corp going into the 2012 playoffs.

 

[kingsfan28]

No, he wants to re-sign in Vancouver which makes Bennings decision making even more laughable. Trade him, get assets, possibly get him a ring, and then sign him again. ****ing clown.

Some talking head yesterday brought up this scenario with another player Brian Burke traded for years ago. Basically a quite handshake deal between GM's that the league doesn't like, with an extra pick thrown in knowing the player was going to go back and sign with the team that traded him.

 

[Bandit]

Hindsight is awesome, eh? Nobody had that outlook of the Kings d corp going into the 2012 playoffs.

They all found out the hard way.

 

[gnarls barkley]

Good point.

2012 LA Kings pre-carter: 5.7%. post carter: 7.1%, then 7.8% in the playoffs.

2014 kings pre-gaborik: 6.1%. Post gaborik: 7.9%, then 8.9% in the playoffs.

Then again, this year's team has both of those guys and a host of good talent--the guys UNDER the threshold are the bottom six essentially, the guys in the top six are mostly performing very well. Kris Versteeg is a career 11% shooter so if we get even 2/3 of that we're good in that regard, if he keeps Vinny high, it may be the same result

I'd also like to think SOME of it is just bearing down hard on rebounds and grinding harder (lotta fly bys--Sutter directed? Just my hypothesis), but that's not provable by anything but circumstantial evidence as it's the mythical 'switch flip.' Our playoff shooting percentages have typically shot up by 2% in those good years (2013 it actually dropped, heh).

this is part of why i think Versteeg was quietly one of the best TDL pickups this year

he's having a good regular season, and he shot well below his career average in his last two playoff appearances. We've already seen Vinny work some magic with guys who are definitely not as productive in our bottom six, and whether Versteeg slots in there or Gaborik does when he returns, it just gives us another legit scoring threat in the lineup that isn't the traditional Kopitar/Carter lines. I'd argue that's something the Kings never had, even in '12 and '14, as the bottom six was largely just (fantastic) checking lines.

 

[SCARFACE909]

Courtesy of Sportsnet

 

[Reclamation Project]

I think he's gonna surprise a lot of people. Just like the other players Dean acquired.

 

[tigermask48]

Some talking head yesterday brought up this scenario with another player Brian Burke traded for years ago. Basically a quite handshake deal between GM's that the league doesn't like, with an extra pick thrown in knowing the player was going to go back and sign with the team that traded him.

Valerie Bure got traded by the Panthers twice and signed with them again in the off-season. It wasn't Burke that traded for him but there have been a few players that did that.

Regarding Hamhuis I know there was a couple deals on the table out there (Dallas was one of them) but Benning allegedly turned them down as they weren't good enough. That's just atrocious asset management on Benning's part. No excuse for him to not take whatever he can get for Hamhuis.

 

[Reclamation Project]

A lousy GM managing a lousy team.

 

[Reclamation Project]

 

[scryan]

I do miss spirograph...

 

[YP44]

Valerie Bure got traded by the Panthers twice and signed with them again in the off-season. It wasn't Burke that traded for him but there have been a few players that did that.

Regarding Hamhuis I know there was a couple deals on the table out there (Dallas was one of them) but Benning allegedly turned them down as they weren't good enough. That's just atrocious asset management on Benning's part. No excuse for him to not take whatever he can get for Hamhuis.

Burke and the flames did that with Cammy two years ago to. I didn't get it at the time but reports are out there saying it is why they got so much for Russell.

Who knows if it actually plays any impact. I am of the believe of take what you can get wherever you can get it.

 

[YP44]

it's weird LA and Chicago are linked but Chicago and Winnipeg

 

[KingsKnight]

it's weird LA and Chicago are linked but Chicago and Winnipeg

If I remember, I think this graph is only the weekend trades up until the deadline. That's why we don't see the Chicago Winnipeg link.

 

[yankeeking]

Did not see GDT yet so posting this here, looks like vermette with 77&70 and toffoil with 11&17 at practice ts morning

 

[Reclamation Project]

Did not see GDT yet so posting this here, looks like vermette with 77&70 and toffoil with 11&17 at practice ts morning

U wot m8?

 

[KingsKnight]

Did not see GDT yet so posting this here, looks like [Versteeg?] with 77&70 and toffoil with 11&17 at practice ts morning

Game is tomorrow, so no GDT yet.

 

[TheSentinel]

Did not see GDT yet so posting this here, looks like vermette with 77&70 and toffoil with 11&17 at practice ts morning

U wot m8?

same

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

And Scuderi taking rushes with Doughty....

It's like a civil war reenactment, 2012 all over

 

[YP44]

If I remember, I think this graph is only the weekend trades up until the deadline. That's why we don't see the Chicago Winnipeg link.

gotcha

 

[YP44]

Did not see GDT yet so posting this here, looks like vermette with 77&70 and toffoil with 11&17 at practice ts morning

obvisouly you meant versteeg. Anyone know what number he is?

I like toffoli and kopitar together.

 

[Scottkmlps]

obvisouly you meant versteeg. Anyone know what number he is?

I like toffoli and kopitar together.

He's wearing 10

 

[Maynard]

obvisouly you meant versteeg. Anyone know what number he is?

#10 according to @lakingspr

 

[Little Psycho]

And Scuderi taking rushes with Doughty....

It's like a civil war reenactment, 2012 all over