Speculation: Trade Deadline March 1st 3 PM ET - Bruins buyers or sellers?

[GloveSave1]

I can see this happening and for the reasons you state. Depressing as hell isn't it?

Ugg. Yeah.

I painted a totally "it's called Bruins" scenario.

I try to remained constrained by reality, so I rarely go here, but indulge me by letting me say what I'd like to see...so many people have fun doing that...

I'd sell/punt.

At the deadline, cut the fat as much as possible. Other GMs would be caught off guard, always waiting for the desperate Bruins to call wanting something.

I'd try to rid the team of Hayes, Nash, K. Miller. Etc. Get into talks for Spooner...see what comes of it...hopefully move him...

Pick up some picks for the flotsam above, plus a decent return for Spooner.

Beg management to not can me. Consider a fresh philosophy at coach...discuss it. It's tough to take a quality drop off, but this team might really need a new beginning for every player.

Take the good things from this season and move on...Marchand and Pasta really emerging...finally finding a young defenseman with a high defensive ceiling in Carlo...etc...

Hopefully start next season with a much more capable and prepared top two pairs on D, hopefully with McQuaid doing what he does best, being a babysitting #5.

But the general plan for the deadline would be "cut the fat."

 

[C77]

Ugg. Yeah.

I painted a totally "it's called Bruins" scenario.

I try to remained constrained by reality, so I rarely go here, but indulge me by letting me say what I'd like to see...so many people have fun doing that...

I'd sell/punt.

At the deadline, cut the fat as much as possible. Other GMs would be caught off guard, always waiting for the desperate Bruins to call wanting something.

I'd try to rid the team of Hayes, Nash, K. Miller. Etc. Get into talks for Spooner...see what comes of it...hopefully move him...

Pick up some picks for the flotsam above, plus a decent return for Spooner.

Beg management to not can me. Consider a fresh philosophy at coach...discuss it. It's tough to take a quality drop off, but this team might really need a new beginning for every player.

Take the good things from this season and move on...Marchand and Pasta really emerging...finally finding a young defenseman with a high defensive ceiling in Carlo...etc...

Hopefully start next season with a much more capable and prepared top two pairs on D, hopefully with McQuaid doing what he does best, being a babysitting #5.

But the general plan for the deadline would be "cut the fat."

I think they should do both.

Trim the fast as you say, I agree and in addition to the guys you listed Moore and Liles should be moved.

The big question is Chara. Given that he's the captain, and the team is mandated to win, I don't see Sweeney trying to move him. I am leaning toward thinking it is best for the medium/long term to move him at the deadline. It's probably a moot point but they could get a nice haul for him and use it to pick up a Top 4 d-man on the left side.

I agree with others who have written that the Bruins still have a solid core group of players but you can't fill out the rest of the roster with marginal NHL'ers and expect good results. The team isn't going to go into a full rebuild given the ages and contract status of their core group.

So for next season my goal would be to add a Top 4 defenseman and a winger who can play in the Top 9. I like Killorn from TB, TB is going to have to move some contracts. Hopefully McAvoy is ready to crack the lineup, even if just bottom pairing.

 

[remer]

Ugg. Yeah.

I painted a totally "it's called Bruins" scenario.

I try to remained constrained by reality, so I rarely go here, but indulge me by letting me say what I'd like to see...so many people have fun doing that...

I'd sell/punt.

At the deadline, cut the fat as much as possible. Other GMs would be caught off guard, always waiting for the desperate Bruins to call wanting something.

I'd try to rid the team of Hayes, Nash, K. Miller. Etc. Get into talks for Spooner...see what comes of it...hopefully move him...

Pick up some picks for the flotsam above, plus a decent return for Spooner.

Beg management to not can me. Consider a fresh philosophy at coach...discuss it. It's tough to take a quality drop off, but this team might really need a new beginning for every player.

Take the good things from this season and move on...Marchand and Pasta really emerging...finally finding a young defenseman with a high defensive ceiling in Carlo...etc...

Hopefully start next season with a much more capable and prepared top two pairs on D, hopefully with McQuaid doing what he does best, being a babysitting #5.

But the general plan for the deadline would be "cut the fat."

I agree they need to move some of the waste out. Hayes, K Miller, Nash
UFA's need to go. Liles & Moore
I would be keeper Spooner. Young, likely cheap to resign, and talented. Just needs to be put in a role to succeed.
I would try to figure out how to move Krecji and Chara.
Look for a young top potential defenseman.
Make a coaching change.

 

[BruinDust]

I hope folks realize that because of expansion requirements, there is only so much "trimming the fat/dead weight" that this team can accomplish at the deadline.

 

[ODAAT]

I hope folks realize that because of expansion requirements, there is only so much "trimming the fat/dead weight" that this team can accomplish at the deadline.

oh great, built in excuse for Sweeney and Co

 

[PlayMakers]

Sweeney said in his press conference he expects to be buyers.

 

[BruinDust]

Sweeney said in his press conference he expects to be buyers.

Kiss that 2017 1st rounder good-bye.

 

[NDiesel]

Kiss that 2017 1st rounder good-bye.

Not a great draft supposedly. For the right player I'd be okay with giving it up.

 

[Gee Wally]

If he goes out and buys rentals somebody is going to have to take me down with one of those vetenary dart guns.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Not a great draft supposedly. For the right player I'd be okay with giving it up.

For the right player, and it sure as hell better be lotto protected. This team could spiral down pretty bad right now.

 

[BruinDust]

Not a great draft supposedly. For the right player I'd be okay with giving it up.

And watch it end up a Top 5 pick.

Seriously, the year they trade it away, is the year they won't finish 14th. That's just how the Bruins do things.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

Sweeney said in his press conference he expects to be buyers.

So basically they'll only be sellers if they lose nearly every game between now and the trade deadline?

 

[caz16]

So basically they'll only be sellers if they lose nearly every game between now and the trade deadline?

Good chance of that.

 

[NDiesel]

For the right player, and it sure as hell better be lotto protected. This team could spiral down pretty bad right now.

Well that's the thing. If it's in a deal bringing back a Duchene or Shattenkirk or Landy or Mackinnon or any good roster player, then I don't see how they do worse the rest of the way.

Otherwise I'd keep the pick, or lotto protect it like you said.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

Good chance of that.

Tough 6-game stretch coming up, but then they have 2 cupcakes (Dallas and Arizona) right before the deadline. Even if they come out with 4 points or less in those 6 games, my fear is that ownership will spin wins over Dallas and Arizona into the team turning it around and that they need to add to "go for it."

 

[Bad Puck Bounce]

If he goes out and buys rentals somebody is going to have to take me down with one of those vetenary dart guns.

Wally vs. Bruins post deadline.

 

[PlayMakers]

So basically they'll only be sellers if they lose nearly every game between now and the trade deadline?

Yes. He said they still have some time to evaluate and that he'd prefer to add players that can be here long-term (as opposed to pure rentals). He also said they're trying to determine if they have a surplus (in terms of prospects) they can deal from, but ultimately he wanted to fill some holes in the lineup without losing their best futures.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Well that's the thing. If it's in a deal bringing back a Duchene or Shattenkirk or Landy or Mackinnon or any good roster player, then I don't see how they do worse the rest of the way.

Otherwise I'd keep the pick, or lotto protect it like you said.

MacKinnon, sure.

The others, I wouldn't risk a lotto ticket for it.
Duchene, 2 years from UFA
Shattenkirk, UFA this year
Landeskog, struggled enough to be hesistant

Bruins legitimately have chance of picking top 10; if not higher. I do NOT risk the lotto ticket. So yea, lotto protect or no deal. Too many things can go wrong, and that's basically the trend ever since the end of 2013 SCF.

 

[BruinsCupNow]

Add me to the list of people who think the Bruins fired the wrong guy today *cough* Neely *cough*.

But now that it's done....I think the coaching change brings with it a bracing moment of reality for some our veterans with no-trade-clauses. And perhaps players such as Chara and Krejci might decide they are open to moving, because the reality of the Bruins' situation can't help but weigh on their minds now.

Trading those two would be a short-term disaster. But if we're serious about a rebuild, that's also the calibre of player you have to move. Trading Beleskey or Nash or Jimmy Hayes isn't going to bring back premium prospects or draft picks. But you could get a LOT for 33 and 46, even if one is ancient and the other is inconsistent.

--BCN

 

[NDiesel]

Add me to the list of people who think the Bruins fired the wrong guy today *cough* Neely *cough*.

But now that it's done....I think the coaching change brings with it a bracing moment of reality for some our veterans with no-trade-clauses. And perhaps players such as Chara and Krejci might decide they are open to moving, because the reality of the Bruins' situation can't help but weigh on their minds now.

Trading those two would be a short-term disaster. But if we're serious about a rebuild, that's also the calibre of player you have to move. Trading Beleskey or Nash or Jimmy Hayes isn't going to bring back premium prospects or draft picks. But you could get a LOT for 33 and 46, even if one is ancient and the other is inconsistent.

--BCN

Personally I trade Chara without hesitating if he's willing to waive his NMC. Send him to help out a cup contender and let him end his career on a high note.

He isn't going to win here and he deserves a better ending to his career.

I still think he could fetch a pretty nice return regardless of age.

Krejci - I keep him because his value is likely low today. Give him the best linemates possible to see if he can increase his value for the offseason where teams will have a clearer salary cap picture.

 

[TMac21]

Kiss that 2017 1st rounder good-bye.

He said he would not mortgage the future..notice PM said buyer, not renter.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Personally I trade Chara without hesitating if he's willing to waive his NMC. Send him to help out a cup contender and let him end his career on a high note.

He isn't going to win here and he deserves a better ending to his career.

I still think he could fetch a pretty nice return regardless of age.

Krejci - I keep him because his value is likely low today. Give him the best linemates possible to see if he can increase his value for the offseason where teams will have a clearer salary cap picture.

Honestly, I think Krejci's resume is much more appealing to a team trying to win it this year. He's struggled this season, but even his detractors know his playoff heroics. A playoff bound team adding Krejci is a huge boost.

Now a playoff bound team able to take on the contract, that Krejci would be willing to go to, is a completely different question.

As for any player with an NMC or NTC right now... you have to ask them, "Do you see yourself winning here again, or would you like to go somewhere where you could win?" Sure, some of them will say no, but some of them may be open to it. Any player should be able to see the current state of this team, and know it's going to take a while.

 

[Lord Ahriman]

If he goes out and buys rentals somebody is going to have to take me down with one of those vetenary dart guns.

There will not be enough.

 

[BruinDust]

He said he would not mortgage the future..notice PM said buyer, not renter.

At the trade-deadline in today's NHL, is there really much of a difference?

How many deals happen at the deadline aren't of the rental variety?

He said he didn't want to trade his young players for rentals. I believe that to be true.

This is the same GM who gave up a 2nd and 4th for 20 games of Lee Stempniak.

I'd be surprised if picks aren't on the table for guys with contracts that expire this off-season or the next.

 

[BB88]

Sweeney said in his press conference he expects to be buyers.

Yes. He said they still have some time to evaluate and that he'd prefer to add players that can be here long-term (as opposed to pure rentals). He also said they're trying to determine if they have a surplus (in terms of prospects) they can deal from, but ultimately he wanted to fill some holes in the lineup without losing their best futures.

No No No No No No this is scary.
Hellouu Liles 2.0. How wrongly can they see this team, unreal.

I'm sorry but I want them to hit the bottom. Few need to get fired and some eyes need to get opened.