Speculation: Trade and Free Agency - 2024-25

[Spurgeon]

I hope not. I’m pretty sure a lot of his production comes from the power play and who is he going to replace from our first unit?

According to Canucks fans, he’s become much more of a two-way player.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

This year: 21-12 ES-PP splits
Last year: 48-25
Year before: 29-16

 

[Sweetnut]

This year: 21-12 ES-PP splits
Last year: 48-25
Year before: 29-16

No idea what this means.

 

[Spurgeon]

No idea what this means.

Even strength vs PP points from Boeser

 

[BagHead]

No idea what this means.

Even strength vs PP points from Boeser

Yeah, What Spurgeon said. He's saying that 2/3 of Boeser's points come at even-strength, so he certainly gets his share of powerplay points, but he isn't strictly a powerplay merchant.

 

[Sweetnut]

Even strength vs PP points from Boeser

Ok, thanks. He didn't give any clues to who's numbers it was. Too stressed out about the Kaprizov news to really think about it.

 

[Spurgeon]

What would the consequences be of trading for someone using Kap on LTIR and Kaprizov coming back before the end of the season?

If it’s past the TDL, what remedy does a team have to get back under the cap? Are you forced to send players down?

A lingering groin injury feels like it’s very easy to use the LTIR loophole with, regardless of what Russo says. Hell, throw Spurgeon on LTIR for the last 10 games of the season to rehab. We have a history of recurring injuries on this team that we should be able to take advantage of.

 

[AKL]

What would the consequences be of trading for someone using Kap on LTIR and Kaprizov coming back before the end of the season?

We forfeit the games we can't get under the cap for

Probably a lot of fines and taking away of draft picks as well

 

[Spurgeon]

We forfeit the games we can't get under the cap for

Probably a lot of fines and taking away of draft picks as well

So go on a 15 game winning streak and then forfeit the remainder. Everyone gets healthy, win win

 

[AKL]

This year: 21-12 ES-PP splits
Last year: 48-25
Year before: 29-16

This year: 26-9
Last year: 30-33
Year before: 38-29

Zuccarello

 

[57special]

I'm cool with having a player that is great on the PP.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

This year: 26-9
Last year: 30-33
Year before: 38-29

Zuccarello

Holy shit, I didn’t realize Zucc was doing that well at even strength this year. 26 points in 37 games.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Think we trade Chisholm before or around the deadline to make room for Buium? Middleton-Brodin-Merrill/Dermott until Denver’s season ends.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Think we trade Chisholm before or around the deadline to make room for Buium? Middleton-Brodin-Merrill/Dermott until Denver’s season ends.

No, I think if they play Buium, Chisholm just goes to the bench.

 

[AKL]

Can't see them trading depth while hoping to make a playoff run, especially since a few weeks ago Chisholm was our 2D

They could very well trade him this summer as an RFA though depending on how Buium looks towards the end of the season

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Can we even fit Buium on the roster without accumulating cap space?

 

[BagHead]

Can we even fit Buium on the roster without accumulating cap space?

And now that we're carrying Hartman's dead cap, it'll be even worse than it was. Can we even ice a full roster? At Puckpedia the projected cap space is currently negative, before trying to replace him.

Actually, it looks like we have both Jones and Shore on the roster still, so maybe we can. But no, I don't think we'll be able to add Buium without waiving Merrill or Chisholm ($1.2M and $1.0M respectively), because I'm fairly certain his cap hit would be $950k and we'll have accrued nothing.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Can we just bury Hartman in the minors next year? Maybe get lucky and Columbus or Anaheim takes him.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

And now that we're carrying Hartman's dead cap, it'll be even worse than it was. Can we even ice a full roster? At Puckpedia the projected cap space is currently negative, before trying to replace him.

Actually, it looks like we have both Jones and Shore on the roster still, so maybe we can. But no, I don't think we'll be able to add Buium without waiving Merrill or Chisholm ($1.2M and $1.0M respectively), because I'm fairly certain his cap hit would be $950k and we'll have accrued nothing.

What are the numbers if we buy Hartman out? Kinda just over him existing on the Wild’s roster.

 

[BagHead]

What are the numbers if we buy Hartman out? Kinda just over him existing on the Wild’s roster.

A buyout this off-season would cost $4,666,667 in real dollars, and carry a cap hit of $2,833,333 in year 1, $1,833,333 in year 2, and $1,166,667 for each of the remaining 2 years of the 4-year buyout.

Table format for ease of reading:

'25-26	$2,833,333
'26-27	$1,833,333
'27-28	$1,166,667
'28-29	$1,166,667

 

[f7ben]

Could you imagine replacing any one of the plugs on this team with Granlund instead of him going to the stars?

Guerin has seen fit to pay players like Foligno and Tronion instead of prioritizing any semblance of scoring depth.

I’m not even talking about being competitive , I’m just talking about having a marketable product on the ice.

 

[Wasted Talent]

Could you imagine replacing any one of the plugs on this team with Granlund instead of him going to the stars?

Guerin has seen fit to pay players like Foligno and Tronion instead of prioritizing any semblance of scoring depth.

I’m not even talking about being competitive , I’m just talking about having a marketable product on the ice.

Never thought I would see f7ben advocating for a rental.

 

[f7ben]

Never thought I would see f7ben advocating for a rental.

I could see granny and Kap meshing just as well as Zucc and Kap. Granny is still a top 6 player in this league and he could have been had cheap.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I could see granny and Kap meshing just as well as Zucc and Kap. Granny is still a top 6 player in this league and he could have been had cheap.

If you meant "could have been had" during the summer of 2021, when he signed his last contract, I don't recall what our cap situation was.

If you meant this most recent trade, we don't have our 2025 1st round pick, which is what Dallas traded to SJ.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I could see granny and Kap meshing just as well as Zucc and Kap. Granny is still a top 6 player in this league and he could have been had cheap.

(He still can - pending UFA)