I want to sell him while his value is still high. He's been getting lucky goals and hasn't produced enough when playing with Pettersson. Got the speed shot toughness, but lacks the hockey iq. Ceiling is a good third liner. I hope he makes me eats crow.
Proposal: Toughness to the Leafs
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GongShowWilly
time to pay the Piper
do it , fax in the paper work
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time to pay the Piper
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Perhaps because they were more worried about the incoming hit rather than making the right play. I guess it's hard to practice handling physicality when they have no one playing that brand of hockey. Out of 12 fwds, only Kadri and Hyman hit any force. One is a top 6 winger with below average hands and the other is playing 3rd line C. Everyone else is meek that regard. I am a die hard fan but when Ennis is one of your most physical players, it is a problem. If they can get a top 6 winger who thrives in physical games, it would be a plus. A top 4 dman who can do the same would be even better.
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Leafs need a 3rd/4th line energy player who can skate and hit. And potentially drop the gloves if need be. (Ennis Replacement)
Nick Ritchie
Miles Wood
Kyle Clifford
Marcus Foligno
Lawson Crouse
Etc...
Are some names that come to mind.
Leafs also need a bruiser on the back end (Oziganov Replacement)
Robert Bortuzzo
Radko Gudas
Adam McQuaid
Eric Gubrandson
etc...
Are some players that come to mind.
Any of those players available?
Nick Ritchie
Miles Wood
Kyle Clifford
Marcus Foligno
Lawson Crouse
Etc...
Are some names that come to mind.
Leafs also need a bruiser on the back end (Oziganov Replacement)
Robert Bortuzzo
Radko Gudas
Adam McQuaid
Eric Gubrandson
etc...
Are some players that come to mind.
Any of those players available?
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I'd rather do Connor Brown for Radko Gudas instead.
And call up big boy Marchment from the Marlies to take Brown's spot.
This.
The real challenge for the Leafs -- you look around the Eastern Conference, and I think they'd honestly take a match-up with just about anyone at this point. They're a high-powered offensive team, with incredible depth up front and typically stellar goaltending. Except of course Boston.
Sure, Tampa might beat them -- but if they do, it'll be at their own game -- simply a gunning match, with Tampa's better D maybe keeping the quality of shots down a little; but it would undoubtedly be a tough series to call.
With Boston, their physical play really dictates the game with the Leafs -- Toronto's roster is nowhere near equipped to go toe-to-toe physically, and they haven't figured out how to overcome it.
The challenge is, how do you equip this team to better handle physical play, without taking away from the formula that makes them successful against the other 29 teams?
To me, trading Connor Brown for Zack Kassian to play on the 4th line isn't the solution. Replacing Oziganhov on the 3rd pair with a Gudas, McQuaid, or Gudbranson isn't going to do that either. I think it comes down to (IMO) the mistake that was signing William Nylander rather than trading him for a defenceman that would push Hainsey down the lineup; and freed up the cap space where maybe they could go after a phyisical RW that can play with the speed of their top 9.
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Adding someone like Gudas if the Flyers keep struggling could be an option
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Heck, I'd go further and see if we can add Simmonds too. (Would obviously have to be a rental, but heck i'd look into it for our playoff run)
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Welp, if you want the Bear you're gonna have to accept it's appetite. Lucic wouldn't instantly bring intimidation and respect to the lineup, but it'll cost ya, 6mil per year
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Hard pass on Maroon. He can barely skate and I think Maroon took a discount to sign with St.Louis anyways so that he can be near his son.
Leafs need players who can skate and hit. We had a Maroon type in Matt Martin just last season
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Agreed. Gudas would be a very underrated pickup, whoever ends up getting him.
I laugh at people over on the leaf board who keep comparing Gudas to polak. Gudas is a far better player than Polak
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I agree they don't need toughness. However, thinking you're going to ride your high powered forwards and get a cup with that is off. You need to balance out that defense and I think your system a bit.
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Agreed. Its about complimenting your group with a mix of everything.
We've clearly got the skill. Now its time to add the right amount of sandpaper to become a fully complete team who can challenge for the cup.
You have to be ready for every style of play in the playoffs if you plan on going far
Honestly Simmonds sounds like your best bet. Probably wont be that expensive despite philly fans asking for a lot. A late Toronto 1st would be the main piece for him.
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If that was indeed the price, Toronto would be all over it I think.
But the demand for Simmonds will be very high if he does actually hit the Market. Philly could snatch a big return if they play it right
Toronto doesnt need goons ,they need a Tkachuk style winger
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