Post-Game Talk: Toronto win 5:3 Hatty for JT

sunstersun

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Are you talking from the perspective of winning? If so, you need to look at the standings.

The Rangers have been a good regular season team, and an average team in the playoffs due to excellent goaltending.

Are you talking from the perspective of cookies or a fantasy league perspective?

Good goaltending and a good pk (which we have) is a big change.

Overall we are experimenting with systems, 3rd and 4th line combos, defensive pairings, showcasing players (Minton, Robertson, Timmins, and Grebenkin), an undisclosed Matthews injury, a slow start from Tavares due to sickness, and weeks/months of players injured all while holding the top spot in the Atlantic, and 6th overall in the NHL.

So what specifically are you talking about? Toronto might miss the President's Trophy?
It would have been nice if our goal scoring 5v5 didn't collapse. I'm not sure how much to contribute our defensive improvement to the system, or players(Tanev, OEL), or goalie.

The point is even if we're 1st on the league, this goal scoring downwards in the playoffs has now infected the regular season.

Is it sustainable? I don't think so. There's a point to evaluating teams and performance beyond the box score. The eye test tells me this is not acceptable with this level of talent to be this reliant on the goalie.
 

Torontonian

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Yet they are 8-3. Finding a way to win is the only thing that matters.

How many games have you witnessed the Leafs play well only to find a way to lose? Especially come playoff time
Winning is important, but it doesn't mask or hide the true problem the team currently has, The past 11 games, the only playoff teams they have faced have been Vegas (Last good game they played), Florida (Lost 5-1), Washington (Lost 3-1), Tampa (Won 5-4), New Jersery (Won 2-1, but everyone knows they should have lost/got smashed this game).

The same struggles the Leafs have right now occur in the playoffs - No depth scoring and only show up for 30 mins out of a 60 min game when they are losing.

I don't recall in the playoffs the last time Toronto dominated a team from start to finish for a full 60 min. The same trend has happened a lot this season as well.
 
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Gabriel426

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Winning is important, but it doesn't mask or hide the true problem the team currently has, The past 11 games, the only playoff teams they have faced have been Vegas (Last good game they played), Florida (Lost 5-1), Washington (Lost 3-1), Tampa (Won 5-4), New Jersery (Won 2-1, but everyone knows they should have lost/got smashed this game).

The same struggles the Leafs have right now occur in the playoffs - No depth scoring and only show up for 30 mins out of a 60 min game when they are losing.

I don't recall in the playoffs the last time Toronto dominated a team from start to finish for a full 60 min. The same trend has happened a lot this season as well.
there were also tons of injuries to depth players like Domi, Max and McMann.
Not to mention AM is recovering too.

Also, depth scoring is an issue in playoffs but not as big as our top guys disappearing acts in past playoffs.
 
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Doublerum1975

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He needs out of Buffalo and to a team that can teach him how to play in his own end. Some dmen need more time. Don't write him off just yet.
Didn't write him off just saying how he played last night

Probably cause Buffalo sucks. Look at everyone who thrived after leaving
Him turning the puck over is his problem not the team but i agree buffalo sucks
 
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leafs in five

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I like that the boys are always making responsible line changes even JT when he was on a hattrick changed after a totally fing sick dangle changed while they had possession
 

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