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Proposal: Toronto-Vancouver
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Liferleafer
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Vlasic has Burns to improve his offensive numbers. Tanev has Edler. If the roles were reversed, the points would be too. Vlasic is better than Tanev, but that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't put up points without Burns, also having a better scoring team helps as well.
WTFMAN99
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Carrick = Virtanen
JVR+Kapanen = Tanev
Seems somewhat reasonable but steeeep.
It does seem at times like Tanev has the most value League wide.
He does constantly seem to be the only top pairing RHD that is available according to the rumors out there. I'd say that would give him tremendous value. Also if Saad is available why would we not look at him? young and better than JVR.
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JVR has 15 pts in 16 games this year. .73 PPG last year. .68 the year before. Meanwhile he has a .63 career PPG.
What way is that trending, mikeyp?
Can u plz order me some fries?? You're out to lunch.
I don't know how many times this needs to be said...
JVR is not the type of player Vancouver needs right now. Once this current brain-dead regime is fired we'll be rebuilding (as needed), and JVR is a UFA in a year and half. If you're going to make an offer for Tanev, make the main pieces high value draft picks/prospects/young players.
JVR is not the type of player Vancouver needs right now. Once this current brain-dead regime is fired we'll be rebuilding (as needed), and JVR is a UFA in a year and half. If you're going to make an offer for Tanev, make the main pieces high value draft picks/prospects/young players.
I don't know probably up there with leaf fans pimping up jvr
Vancouver fans think Tanev is in the top level of D men in the NHL so your going to get roasted from them. They want Nylander , Marner type prospects for Tanev so be prepared for that.
I believe Tanev for JVR is a fair talent trade. Both guys are the same level of player in their respective positions. Neither are superstars, but both are in the top two Lines/Pairings type players who can play with top talent. With that said, I don't think Vancouver wants to move Tanev for a lateral move(fill one position by creating a hole in another), If nucks move Tanev its a full scale rebuild so it will be picks prospects.
Leafs side JVR is clicking with Bozak and Marner so why break that up?
just saw a toronto proposal
let me guess, just like in every toronto proposals to get other teams good player/s, jvr is included even though time and time again fans repeatedly says they dont want nothing to do with jvr.
let me guess, just like in every toronto proposals to get other teams good player/s, jvr is included even though time and time again fans repeatedly says they dont want nothing to do with jvr.
Almost every team in the NHL would have interest in JVR, to say you want nothing to do with him is just stupid. He is a top 30 goal scorer in the league over the past like 5 seasons and is on a steal of a contract.
I'm not saying all teams would trade what it would take to get him but almost all teams would jump at the idea of JVR in their top 6 if the price was right.
I'm not saying all teams would trade what it would take to get him but almost all teams would jump at the idea of JVR in their top 6 if the price was right.
Unless I missed your sarcastic tone, In what universe is Carrick a future top pairing D-Man??????????
Look I think Tanev for JVR fairly even. Virtanen at this point is damaged goods by the treatment he has had by Benning. We already have player in a similar situation in Rychel and he still is trying to find his way on the Marlies. Kap while not as physical as either looks to be the higher end player skill wise.
Lastly JVR is our only decent LW at this moment and dumping him for at second pairing defense-man is not good asset management. We need a top pairing RHD, Zaitsev has proven he is a top 4 player but the question is should he be a first or second pairing guy. I know JVR doesn't get you a top 2 RHD but its a start.
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JVR is a very liquid asset though too, he doesn't need to be considered only for what contributions he would make to the Canucks as a player, talented wingers on short term contracts are in demand by many playoff teams every year so he's very flippable for futures
Not advocating that Toronto trades for Tanev either, that would mean we're trying to shorten the rebuild which to me only makes sense if we think that we're ready to make the playoffs without Tanev and he's the finishing touch that makes us a good team
Tanev is more desirable. He's signed longer and is a top pairing d-man (which is much more in demand right now). There is literally no reason for Vancouver to flip Tanev for JVR.
Our team's defense has also been a lot worse since Tanev has been out of the lineup, so even if we make the trade to try to improve our team now it's not making us better.
Man Bear Pig
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Tanev is worth more than JVR. That said, the Leafs need to stay the course and draft d-men. What's the rush? If we're trading for a Tanev down the road it's because guys like Dermott, Nielsen,Greenway etc were busts. This isn't the type of trade you make a few years into a rebuild.
Bettman Returnz
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This! ^^^
And no we don't think we will get Nylander/Marner for Tanev. But we don't want JVR. Canucks and Leafs are not good trading partners.
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Ya no doubt that Tanev is worth more than JVR, just saying that if TML is in the hunt at the deadline and we feel like we can accelerate the rebuild and Vancouver is finally accepting that its time to start a rebuild of your own, JVR could be looked at as a 1st+A- prospect rather than what his contribution to the team would be. Doesn't make sense for Vancouver unless you're going to rebuild
Would think that it could be a 3 way trade with a contending team taking JVR, Van getting a 1st+prospect from that contending team plus something from Toronto, Toronto getting Tanev
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Well, the OP was a Leaf fan and the nation has lots of posts trying to get Tanev.
Perhaps if the responses are so bothersome, perhaps the solution would be for us not to propose so many Tanev thread? Just an idea.
I said he is at the age where F go out of their prime as opposed to D at that age go out of their prime. Scott Hartnell is in his mid 30's producing 1st line LW production on 3rd line minutes. This year he has 8 points playing 4th line most of the time. Sometimes players play well past the age they are supposed to decline. That doesn't mean when judging a players value you don't factor in age and older forwards have less value then older D that's just 100% fact. I'll order you the fries but I need your employee discount I only got $3.50 in my wallet.
Bettman Returnz
Why so serious?
Well any educated fan will realize that's not going to happen. Perhaps they were just implying it would take an overpayment to pry Tanev away.
Bottomline JVR is not going to get you Tanev.
Benning will probably trade Tanev and a 2nd for Kadri.
1. Benning
2. A second rounder is AUTOMATIC, NO DISCUSSION.
3. Benning sees Vancouver fans talks about Kadri a lot recently, thinks it'll generate for interest.
1. Benning
2. A second rounder is AUTOMATIC, NO DISCUSSION.
3. Benning sees Vancouver fans talks about Kadri a lot recently, thinks it'll generate for interest.
Randy Randerson
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Tanev would be a godsend. He is the perfect partner for Rielly, and would really let Rielly develop into an elite offensive d-man.
