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Kudo Shinichi

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This isn't an accidental duo since as soon as Bergevin got Drouin, he had Pacioretty take him "under his arm". They hung out together, trained together, god knows what else. This was a planned acquisition to pair with Patches. One might expect a professional team to experiment with different players in different combinations. Nope, not the 2017 Habs. No competition for #1C. Pacioretty and Drouin, together, no other options need be explored.

This is a perfect example of Bergevin's mentality. With Therrien (with whom he clearly shared a brain) they decided that PK shouldn't play on the PK, even though he was then and still is a top penalty killer.

As the team continues to diminish in quality, I predict we'll see a great deal more of this incompetent ultra control from Bergevin.

You realize Pacioretty and Drouin have been training together during the summer for years?

And the only competition for 1C was Galchenyuk, and they clearly don't like playing him there.
And Drouin and Pacioretty looked really good together, so there wasn't a need to try out another combination.
 

Belial

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I think it's dreadful to have DLR go from a healthy scratch to 2C or 3C depending on time usage while Galchenyuk remains 4LW.

Julien before camp stated that he will experiment with Galchenyuk at center. This is the absolute prime opportunity to do that. And it won't be the case.

I do hope that if he doesn't start centering Byron and Gallagher, that he will be there by game's end.

So we've been whining for years how this management keeps screwing with his head by shifting him from wing to center and back to wing and now this is exactly what you're asking for? :)

Remember those people who said just cause Mitchell played in Drouins spot in that pre season game it didn't mean anything?

It's quite clear that it meant what most thought it meant.

Yeah it meant that Drouin will take back his spot and Plekanec will take back his spot your point?
 

Adam Michaels

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So we've been whining for years how this management keeps screwing with his head by shifting him from wing to center and back to wing and now this is exactly what you're asking for? :)

I don't want him at wing on the 4th line. If he's wing in the Top-6, despite his struggles, I'd be content. But right now, a spot in the middle is open and, to me, it has his name written all over it.
 

Belial

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I don't want him at wing on the 4th line. If he's wing in the Top-6, despite his struggles, I'd be content. But right now, a spot in the middle is open and, to me, it has his name written all over it.
The guy is struggling, I don't think throwing him into an even tougher position will help him.
 

SquiddFX

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The one bright spot I see is the Leafs defense doesn't look too good. Outside of Reilly, Gardiner, and Zaitsev, the rest aren't too great. Hainsey on the top line did give me a chuckle though :laugh:
 

groovejuice

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You realize Pacioretty and Drouin have been training together during the summer for years?

And the only competition for 1C was Galchenyuk, and they clearly don't like playing him there.
And Drouin and Pacioretty looked really good together, so there wasn't a need to try out another combination.

Wasn't a need to try another combination. Wow. I guess I only need to test drive one single car before I spend $40G. If it starts and keeps out the rain I'm good to go!!

This enabling attitude is exactly how Bergevin still has a job; well his boss is a gutless nebbish, so there's that too. It boggles the mind that people could think that combinations should be determined in the board room and not on the ice.
 
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Bryson

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The guy is struggling, I don't think throwing him into an even tougher position will help him.

Well you're wrong because Galchenyuk himself has proven you wrong. The reason he is struggling is because he is playing with marginal players vs top 6 skilled players and because he is playing on the wing where he has less space to maneuver. He won't beat the opponents with his speed. He needs space to get his shot off. That's why he excels when he is placed at center. You''re not stupid. You've been watching this kid for 5 years. You've seen enough that you should know for a fact that he plays better when he's at center. It's simply easier to play with skilled players than it is to have to carry grinders. He is not that kind of player. Galch is missing his mentor Radulov big time right now. Chucky is the last russian standing. Who does he have to look up to right now?
 

groovejuice

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Well you're wrong because Galchenyuk himself has proven you wrong. The reason he is struggling is because he is playing with marginal players vs top 6 skilled players and because he is playing on the wing where he has less space to maneuver. He won't beat the opponents with his speed. He needs space to get his shot off. That's why he excels when he is placed at center. You''re not stupid. You've been watching this kid for 5 years. You've seen enough that you should know for a fact that he plays better when he's at center.

Apparently, how Galchenyuk played after returning from a serious injury outranks in importance all the tremendous things he did at centre prior to that. I guess losing makes people hunt in the strangest places for a scapegoat.
 
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Bryson

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Apparently, how Galchenyuk played after returning from a serious injury outranks in importance all the tremendous things he did at centre prior to that. I guess losing makes people hunt in the strangest places for a scapegoat.

But that's the thing. Forget about Chucky scoring 27 points in 29 games before his injury and the team going 13-1-1. A veteran is never supposed to lose his spot after an injury especially to a rookie. It's the unwritten rule. They didn't even give him that much respect. Ridiculous.
 

Tyson

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Damn Chucky with 2 goals in his last 28. I also read somewhere that Pacioretty has 3 in his last 22? Is that possible?
Montréal in the 21st century is where promising players come to struggle.
 

Belial

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Well you're wrong because Galchenyuk himself has proven you wrong. The reason he is struggling is because he is playing with marginal players vs top 6 skilled players and because he is playing on the wing where he has less space to maneuver. He won't beat the opponents with his speed. He needs space to get his shot off. That's why he excels when he is placed at center. You''re not stupid. You've been watching this kid for 5 years. You've seen enough that you should know for a fact that he plays better when he's at center. It's simply easier to play with skilled players than it is to have to carry grinders. He is not that kind of player. Galch is missing his mentor Radulov big time right now. Chucky is the last russian standing. Who does he have to look up to right now?

The problem with all this is that no one's asking him to carry anyone, he's not on the so called 4th line because he's not producing, no one is freaking producing on this team right now.

There's more than points in a hockey game and you clearly didn't grasp that aspect of the game yet. 30 goals :tmi:
 

groovejuice

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The problem with all this is that no one's asking him to carry anyone, he's not on the so called 4th line because he's not producing, no one is freaking producing on this team right now.

There's more than points in a hockey game and you clearly didn't grasp that aspect of the game yet. 30 goals :tmi:

Personally I'll always take 30 goals over blind alliegence or intangibles.
 
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Adam Michaels

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The problem with all this is that no one's asking him to carry anyone, he's not on the so called 4th line because he's not producing, no one is freaking producing on this team right now.

No one is, you're correct. But only one of them is being focused on and brought down a level. The rest of them are either being kept where they are or just being shifted around each other.
 

SquiddFX

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The problem with all this is that no one's asking him to carry anyone, he's not on the so called 4th line because he's not producing, no one is freaking producing on this team right now.

There's more than points in a hockey game and you clearly didn't grasp that aspect of the game yet. 30 goals :tmi:

The only thing that matters in hockey is winning. And you win games by scoring goals. Which as of right now the Habs are incapable of doing. So the solution is to play a talented player on the 4th line, sorry the so-called 4th line (you should trademark this.), to do what? Logic dictats that he should be playing with top line players. As much as I never liked MT, he knew when he had to load a line up.
 
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