Toronto is in big trouble... Matthews's injury is still there. Surgery incoming?

The Hanging Jowl

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He scored 69 goals last season...the question kind of answers itself?

He scores in many ways including an Ovi style one-timer as probably the most common way now. I'm talking about that wrister that you can barely see even in slow motion. Sorry but that's been missing for a couple of years.
 

FrozenJagrt

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I dunno. Marner needs Matthews more than anyone.
Marner played the best hockey I've seen from him last time Matthews was out. I actually prefer when they're not together as Marner becomes a much more complete offensive threat instead of just trying to force the puck to his bestie constantly.
 

D Wakaluk

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Toronto looked way better without him. If he can't come back with a lethal shot just let him hang with Biebs or something.

He could be a great asset even with 70% healthy if they used him more wisely, but since he is the AM he has to have the +20min and Marner spoon feeding him
 

Michoulicious

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Toronto looked way better without him. If he can't come back with a lethal shot just let him hang with Biebs or something.

He could be a great asset even with 70% healthy if they used him more wisely, but since he is the AM he has to have the +20min and Marner spoon feeding him
They looked very bad against the Islanders yesterday I must say.

My feeling is they collapse without him in the next few weeks and then he either attempts an early comeback or they trade for a top 6 C and they keep him LTIR until the playoffs hoping for the best.

Fans saying they were "fine without him in November so they will be fine of he's out months" are very, very delusional.

That team is not as good as it record shows. Eye test and metrics says that much.
 

Hallonbroder

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Marner played the best hockey I've seen from him last time Matthews was out. I actually prefer when they're not together as Marner becomes a much more complete offensive threat instead of just trying to force the puck to his bestie constantly.
Wasn’t that just a monthly sample?…

Also, feels like Marner really needs good linemates to thrive, more than anyone, with that price tag he’s got. Not a “line driver” I’d say
 

D Wakaluk

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They looked very bad against the Islanders yesterday I must say.

My feeling is they collapse without him in the next few weeks and then he either attempts an early comeback or they trade for a top 6 C and they keep him LTIR until the playoffs hoping for the best.

Fans saying they were "fine without him in November so they will be fine of he's out months" are very, very delusional.

That team is not as good as it record shows. Eye test and metrics says that much.

Third game in four nights :dunno:

I agree that they are not as good as their record, but still, they looked more like a team when he was out
 

Ghost of Murph

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I don't see it as a big deal. If Matthews has to be out for the rest of the year the Leafs are still making the playoffs. The roster and coaching are stout enough. The opened up cap space could bring in some nice talent for the playoffs. Even if Matthews doesn't return in time for the playoffs, it's not like he has been guiding his team to playoff success.
 

Bileur

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Didn’t they do just fine without him earlier this year? Obviously not ideal but I wouldn’t say they’re in trouble.
 

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