Player Discussion Torey Krug - Part II

[Dr Hook]

An elite 3rd pair/pp specialist. Sadly overpaid to fit that role

An adequet 3/4 guy with the right partner and if sheltered some in his matchups... provided hes chipping in those 50 points we expect

But clearly overmatched if pushed into the top pair

I think his injury is hurting him... i think he will produce more offense when healthy. I think he tries hard

I dont think he will grow 8 inches

He is what he is

I agree he is not a guy that you match against an opponents top scoring line, but he is a solid 3-4 guy with adequate defensive skills (needs a defensively strong partner IMO), great breakout skills, very good skater, offensive instincts, PP skills. No problems with him for me other than I wonder what happened to his shot- last year and so far this year he has had problems getting shots through, or on target when they get through. I'd like to see that aspect of his game get back to where it was a couple years ago, other than though, no complaints and I think he's fairly paid for what he brings. I'd not like to think of what our team would be without him and having to replace him in-house.

 

[NDiesel]

I agree he is not a guy that you match against an opponents top scoring line, but he is a solid 3-4 guy with adequate defensive skills (needs a defensively strong partner IMO), great breakout skills, very good skater, offensive instincts, PP skills. No problems with him for me other than I wonder what happened to his shot- last year and so far this year he has had problems getting shots through, or on target when they get through. I'd like to see that aspect of his game get back to where it was a couple years ago, other than though, no complaints and I think he's fairly paid for what he brings. I'd not like to think of what our team would be without him and having to replace him in-house.

Actually if there is one thing I'm disappointed in it's his shot. He can't seem to get it through ever, like you said. The first two years he was hammering them and I honestly thought he could get close to 20 goals at one point (career high is 14 I think)....I'm thinking those shoulder injuries in back-to-back seasons hurt that part of his game.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Actually if there is one thing I'm disappointed in it's his shot. He can't seem to get it through ever, like you said. The first two years he was hammering them and I honestly thought he could get close to 20 goals at one point (career high is 14 I think)....I'm thinking those shoulder injuries in back-to-back seasons hurt that part of his game.

yeah he used to have an almost Bourque-like laser from the point & now it just feels like it has a 1 in a hundred chance of hitting the net.

 

[Concessionaire]

I'm reserving any judgement on Krug until he's able to play without that full-face shield.

Based on past performance I'm pretty confident he's a second-pair defenseman (when healthy).

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Chiller is close to and or equal and or more better.

This take is steaming...... Better at what, exactly? Harder shot and that’s it.

“More better”. Lololol

 

[Nothingbutglass]

I agree he is not a guy that you match against an opponents top scoring line, but he is a solid 3-4 guy with adequate defensive skills (needs a defensively strong partner IMO), great breakout skills, very good skater, offensive instincts, PP skills. No problems with him for me other than I wonder what happened to his shot- last year and so far this year he has had problems getting shots through, or on target when they get through. I'd like to see that aspect of his game get back to where it was a couple years ago, other than though, no complaints and I think he's fairly paid for what he brings. I'd not like to think of what our team would be without him and having to replace him in-house.

That's pretty valuable in today's NHL and agreed we have no one else except McAvoy soon that could fill that role. It would be great if Zboril could develop as well. I worry about Krug's durability. I'm not size-phobic, but Krug doesnt have the slipperiness like Marchand has to minimize the punishment he takes. McQuaid has same issue despite being huge, I cringe every time he is off-balance near the boards

 

[hoss75]

I agree he is not a guy that you match against an opponents top scoring line, but he is a solid 3-4 guy with adequate defensive skills (needs a defensively strong partner IMO), great breakout skills, very good skater, offensive instincts, PP skills. No problems with him for me other than I wonder what happened to his shot- last year and so far this year he has had problems getting shots through, or on target when they get through. I'd like to see that aspect of his game get back to where it was a couple years ago, other than though, no complaints and I think he's fairly paid for what he brings. I'd not like to think of what our team would be without him and having to replace him in-house.

All good points. For years this board wanted a puck moving defenseman. We got a decent one and people complain that he's not a Norris candidate.
He's got his warts, but if he can overcome the shoulder injuries, he's a key component.

 

[Dr Hook]

I'm thinking those shoulder injuries in back-to-back seasons hurt that part of his game.

I hadn't thought about the shoulder surgeries mainly because he still seems able to steam the puck in there pretty good- but now I do wonder if because of the injuries he made some small changes to how he shoots so that while he can still get the power he's lost some accuracy

 

[NDiesel]

I hadn't thought about the shoulder surgeries mainly because he still seems able to steam the puck in there pretty good- but now I do wonder if because of the injuries he made some small changes to how he shoots so that while he can still get the power he's lost some accuracy

Could be. And to be frank, it could easily be a case of confidence. He's been missing the net a lot and not playing as well and maybe is just gripping the stick a little too hard on these shots

 

[DKH]

I guess Krug is playing better had to go to page 2 to find this

Maybe the shield, no preseason, salmon shakes had an effect

Little Nirvana All Apologizes in store here?

There was one particular poster but haven't seen him around

 

[ODAAT]

I guess Krug is playing better had to go to page 2 to find this

Maybe the shield, no preseason, salmon shakes had an effect

Little Nirvana All Apologizes in store here?

There was one particular poster but haven't seen him around

He/She has taken your advice and is listening to All Apologies in their basement

I was/am one fan who isn`t/wasn`t worried about Krug for a moment. He`s a solid 3-4 who battles fiercely, will at times get outmuscled by the bigger bodies but not to the point where he is constantly hurting the team. He`ll wind up with his 40-45 pts, no complaints here, so many so quick to hammer this guy, I don`t get it

 

[DKH]

He/She has taken your advice and is listening to All Apologies in their basement

I was/am one fan who isn`t/wasn`t worried about Krug for a moment. He`s a solid 3-4 who battles fiercely, will at times get outmuscled by the bigger bodies but not to the point where he is constantly hurting the team. He`ll wind up with his 40-45 pts, no complaints here, so many so quick to hammer this guy, I don`t get it

The best part was that person during a game thread in game 5 or 6 showed up after a miscue proclaiming he or she was right looking for apologies

 

[ODAAT]

The best part was that person during a game thread in game 5 or 6 showed up after a miscue proclaiming he or she was right looking for apologies

hardly a shock with some friend. I`m sure I`ve developed digestion issues from all the crow I`ve had to eat, hate admitting I`m wrong but at the end of the day, by doing so, my belief is it give me that ton of "Hf Street Cred" as the kids say....wait, do they still say this?

 

[DKH]

hardly a shock with some friend. I`m sure I`ve developed digestion issues from all the crow I`ve had to eat, hate admitting I`m wrong but at the end of the day, by doing so, my belief is it give me that ton of "Hf Street Cred" as the kids say....wait, do they still say this?

The poster has taken his Torey Krug hate to the main board

I was reading a thread Where Does Boston Top 6 Core Rank

Guess he needs to take his premise to fans that don't see much of Krug

Not suprised he wouldn't show up here

 

[Mick Riddleton]

The poster has taken his Torey Krug hate to the main board

I was reading a thread Where Does Boston Top 6 Core Rank

Guess he needs to take his premise to fans that don't see much of Krug

Not suprised he wouldn't show up here

Yeah I seen it and tried to squash it. Nothing like heaping on our bad image, bad enough the Canadian media in my view does us no favors at all. I am convinced the head of it all is a Habs fan at CBC and we get the short end every time in the media. I cannot tell you how many times I had to defend the false claims to hab and leafs fans gobbling up the BS. I do not shy away from telling them like it is, makes me so angry.

Krug got off the mask and has 4 pts in 2 games and is showing McAvoy how it gets done. I used to were a cage and went to a visor and no shield at all and it makes the game so much easier, back to the cage after losing my 3 front teeth from a goalie stick and a few pucks in the face and multiple stitches a month apart, same arena, same play, same nurse, same conversation with her. Once in the eye wearing contacts that had to stay in when they were not supposed too because of swelling. Those who never went back and forth have no clue how it hampers your vision and his game is vision being smaller, a skater and passer. If he was just a bang it off the boards guy it would not be as bad, now we are seeing the real Krug.

 

[Gee Wally]

@Battleford Bruin
Solid points. I think part of he problem is the perspective of some that have never played the game Or only exposed to pond hockey.
I say that because of the point you made in the vision aspect of things, or what a broken jaw does to sustained fitness. Even comments made throughout here about how a guy deserved getting hit in the back. Or what a goalie could or should have stopped. What Im saying is that when some very asinine comments are made I usually chock them up to the poster really not knowing what they are talking about. So I tend to ignore them as much as possible. Or if it fits the new Trolling and Spam rule I handle it in a say shall we say different manner.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Krug's coming around, knew he would....but man oh man still some really bad unforced turnovers, I get taking the good with the bad with him & the way he plays, but if he could tone down the turnovers a bit I'd be ok with that.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Krug's coming around, knew he would....but man oh man still some really bad unforced turnovers, I get taking the good with the bad with him & the way he plays, but if he could tone down the turnovers a bit I'd be ok with that.

He is a puck carrier and by definition is going have the puck on his stick for extended amounts of time. Chances of getting checking and making errors is 100 times higher then a bottom pairing guy who only wraps it off the boards when in trouble or plainly freezes it. Same as Pasta and Marchand most times then not it works out but by the sheer number of possesions they will seem to fail a lot. Not true but it looks like it, we see what we want to see, I am guilty of that for sure. Average it out and they are ahead of the so called plugger types, we need those guys to test teams, back them up, scare them with speed and smarts.

Without Krug lugging it out and establishing a rush we would have a hard time with the transition. Now that McAvoy is here Krug has help and Carlo is a mobile decent first pass guy with size. McAvoy has helped Chara's game more then Carlo did last year. That ability to go retrieve a puck, make a quick head check see where the opportunity is and take it is just what we need in today's game. I come away every game just floored how well Mac does this as a rookie and how calm he is. Krug is challenged by the kid and that is great for us. If he turned down the turnovers he would turn down making rushes and taking chances, Cassidy is all about the dee forcing the issue, that is not going to happen. You have to surround Krug with a partner that is a stay at home mobile guy = none better on the team then Carlo. These are the pairs I wanted all year. They are perfect for each others strengths and weaknesses.

 

[NDiesel]

If I was a betting man, I'd say this thread is going to be a ghost town in a week.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

If I was a betting man, I'd say this thread is going to be a ghost town in a week.

krug deserves his props for what he does well. lets hope he puts up points at a steady pace for rest of season

i have 20 fantasy teams in espn i manage and have krug on 18 of those teams now that so many other people dropped him. i might seam like im not a huge fan but ive always given him credit for having very good puck skill.

he could score 800 points this year and id still say his ability to defend in his own zone is weak. but i hope we can all give him his proper respect for being a very good offensive weapon

 

[NDiesel]

krug deserves his props for what he does well. lets hope he puts up points at a steady pace for rest of season

i have 20 fantasy teams in espn i manage and have krug on 18 of those teams now that so many other people dropped him. i might seam like im not a huge fan but ive always given him credit for having very good puck skill.

he could score 800 points this year and id still say his ability to defend in his own zone is weak. but i hope we can all give him his proper respect for being a very good offensive weapon

I'm okay with people being underwhelmed by his defensive acumen. I'm not okay with people calling him overpaid.

 

[DKH]

krug deserves his props for what he does well. lets hope he puts up points at a steady pace for rest of season

i have 20 fantasy teams in espn i manage and have krug on 18 of those teams now that so many other people dropped him. i might seam like im not a huge fan but ive always given him credit for having very good puck skill.

he could score 800 points this year and id still say his ability to defend in his own zone is weak. but i hope we can all give him his proper respect for being a very good offensive weapon

You hope we can all give him proper respect for being a very good offensive weapon

You are so f***ing kind

Thank you

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

He is a puck carrier and by definition is going have the puck on his stick for extended amounts of time. Chances of getting checking and making errors is 100 times higher then a bottom pairing guy who only wraps it off the boards when in trouble or plainly freezes it. Same as Pasta and Marchand most times then not it works out but by the sheer number of possesions they will seem to fail a lot. Not true but it looks like it, we see what we want to see, I am guilty of that for sure. Average it out and they are ahead of the so called plugger types, we need those guys to test teams, back them up, scare them with speed and smarts.

Without Krug lugging it out and establishing a rush we would have a hard time with the transition. Now that McAvoy is here Krug has help and Carlo is a mobile decent first pass guy with size. McAvoy has helped Chara's game more then Carlo did last year. That ability to go retrieve a puck, make a quick head check see where the opportunity is and take it is just what we need in today's game. I come away every game just floored how well Mac does this as a rookie and how calm he is. Krug is challenged by the kid and that is great for us. If he turned down the turnovers he would turn down making rushes and taking chances, Cassidy is all about the dee forcing the issue, that is not going to happen. You have to surround Krug with a partner that is a stay at home mobile guy = none better on the team then Carlo. These are the pairs I wanted all year. They are perfect for each others strengths and weaknesses.

I'm talking about unforced turnovers, not on the rush...the blind passes from behind the net in front of Rask to no one. That's all. I dig the dude & what he brings, just at least 2-3 times a game he makes a bone head pass instead of making a safe play.

Pretty sure last night he tried to flip pass up the ice, botched it and resulted in a real good Wild chance.

But again, I get the risk/reward game he plays.

 

[NDiesel]

I'm talking about unforced turnovers, not on the rush...the blind passes from behind the net in front of Rask to no one. That's all. I dig the dude & what he brings, just at least 2-3 times a game he makes a bone head pass instead of making a safe play.

Pretty sure last night he tried to flip pass up the ice, botched it and resulted in a real good Wild chance.

But again, I get the risk/reward game he plays.

Yep, no different than Pasta creating at least a half a dozen great chances but then turning over the puck at the blue line 3 or 4 times. You don't create offense without taking risks, more often than not he makes a great play in transition.

 

[JP Nolan]

I'm talking about unforced turnovers, not on the rush...the blind passes from behind the net in front of Rask to no one. That's all. I dig the dude & what he brings, just at least 2-3 times a game he makes a bone head pass instead of making a safe play.

Pretty sure last night he tried to flip pass up the ice, botched it and resulted in a real good Wild chance.

But again, I get the risk/reward game he plays.

Exactly....Even last night he lost one right in front of Rask....Made plays up ice and followed the puc only to get beat on that Granlund break away and another two times at least he got caught up ice...I like the offense he brings no doubt, but i wish he would think about playing defense first.