Confirmed Trade: [TOR/TBL] Darren Raddysh (signs 8 years, $8.5M AAV) for 2026 5th round pick (MOD WARNING 253)

[Arthur Morgan]

If I'm wrong and Raddysh is awesome, I'll admit it and

The odds are pretty high that you're going to be wrong, if only because the guy will probably put up 35 points on the power play alone.

well I hope I am wrong, I'm mostly not happy due to the term. I don't believe in Raddysh. I don't believe he will be as good or even half as good as he was last season. 8.5m is alot of money

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Okay. I'm not sure anyone in Toronto will care. They got a number one RHD for free. For a team trying to win the Cup in the next 4-5 years, years 6-8 of this contract can be dealt with later. Teams always get out of contracts they don't want. Fans arguing about the length of a contract is pointless.

I mean, if by free you mean you paying $68 million sure, and by #1D you mean a guy who is a PP specialist and atrocious defensively, sure. I think it was a needed signing, but lets not exaggerate.

 

[General Fanager]

You don’t think having Matthews, Nylander, Knies and McKenna might be ok too??

Matthews and Nylander will help for sure but not like Kucherov. We dont know if Knies will even be on the team by Sept and we dont know what McKenna will be able to do. Heck we dont even know he will be their pick.

 

[koyvoo]

And, from what I can see, are now unanimously lamenting his departure and criticizing their GM.

No, I’m not seeing anywhere near a unanimous opinion on that in this thread on their board. Mist are still saying they are glad they’re team didn’t give him this deal.

Confirmed with Link: Thread '[TBL/TOR] Lightning sign and trade Darren Raddysh (8yrs, $8.5AAV) for a 2026 5th rd pick'

Today at 1:54 AM

Whoever told me sign and trade deals are still a thing the other day, I tip my hat to you sir. Curious to see the price? If JBB is able to somehow snag Knies (would obviously be Raddysh signed + ) I'm gonna build him a statue.

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[KniesMadeBradyCry]

Matthews and Nylander will help for sure but not like Kucherov. We dont know if Knies will even be on the team by Sept and we dont know what McKenna will be able to do. Heck we dont even know he will be their pick.

Knies was shopped by the previous GM, not current. No reason to think he’s moved.

Mckenna is almost certainly their pick from all reports I’ve seen

 

[Artaud]

The odds are pretty high that you're going to be wrong, if only because the guy will probably put up 35 points on the power play alone.

Raddysh put up 26 PP points in a career year playing with one of the most dangerous powerplay players of this generation, not to mention the league MVP, and you think he'll put up 9 more with a rookie feeding him instead?

 

[goonybird]

The Chayka era begins!

 

[stealth1]

TBL could've afford him at this. Interesting that they passed on it. Must not think he's too important.

They could have for maybe 4 years. They likely didn't want that contract for 8 years

 

[notbias]

I guess time will tell, it's fine if u believe this is a good deal but don't try and look down on me because I think it's awful.

what if your wrong and I'm right and it's a MAJOR mistake of a signing?

I remember everyone thinking the David Clarkson deal was good in the beginning too

Your analysis is just terrible... I think it is likely a fair deal and could go up or down slightly either way, but this isn't Clarkson... this is a D who has proven to be worth a slightly smaller contract over 2 years and then proven to be worth a much larger contract in 1 year... it isn't Clarkson who was a 3rd liner.

Raddysh won't be PPG putting up 25G a year... and he isn't being paid like that.

But I think the worst case is he is a solid 2nd pairing guy for most of this contract, and for that, he is slightly overpaid.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Knies was shopped by the previous GM, not current. No reason to think he’s moved.

Mckenna is almost certainly their pick from all reports I’ve seen

Thats not true. Its been reported by multiple outlets that his name is still out there

 

[Arthur Morgan]

They compare him to Kucherov yet never bother to check in on Kucherov's development time. Time in the AHL and 18 points in his rookie year...The fanbase is not rational. They think Knies is a Cam Neely level power forward. You have some posters who think a calder cup run means they have a young core coming through...Despite the guys in their 30's playing on the team leading them in scoring all season. It's just nuts, the fanbase is full of homers. Which would be fine if more doughnut eating went on.

Raddysh was needed, an upgrade at RD was needed, I think personally they should have gone after Rasmus Andersson as he's more of a proven quality. Raddysh settling in at around 40 points a year and playing 20-25 minutes a night is fine. Hopefully they can get rid of Carlo and I really like Tanev personally, so their top 4 is much better than it was on the right side.

I think there could be a problem with him coming home down the line but that will happen if it happens.

Andersson is who I wanted, I really wanted Andersson. not the guy that just had a breakout season at 30 playing with Kucherov. but yea I knew I was going to get ripped by leafs fans, I just can't sit here and get excited for this deal.

maybe I shouldn't have said David Clarkson but I dont think im too far off. and also I dont care if ppl don't like my thoughts.

 

[KniesMadeBradyCry]

So your best hope is a return to form for the Leafs, the first round exit and Matthews on milk cartons in April classic?

Even that is unrealistic. The whole core played 60+ games, injures were not the issue. Raddysh is a Rielly sidegrade and you hired a coach who was ran out of town for his playoff failures.

They were missing their best defensive dman for the entire year. Both goalies. Stars at all different times. That roster was in shambles for months.

And nobody, and I mean NOBODY was going to get that Kings roster anywhere. One of the worst teams on paper I’ve seen in the last decade

 

[Miles Stock]

TBL could've afford him at this. Interesting that they passed on it. Must not think he's too important.

Perhaps. Perhaps he wasn't interested in re-signing with TB.

 

[KniesMadeBradyCry]

Thats not true. Its been reported by multiple outlets that his name is still out there

No it isn’t. They say teams are inquiring on him, which they should be? Nowhere says the leafs are shopping him at all.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

 

[KniesMadeBradyCry]

Half their roster eh?
Hyperbole much.
Lost their second best player and the D and goaltending and Matthews health remain huge question marks. This is not the same team as those playoff teams.

That’s a good thing, wouldn’t you say?

 

[landy]

Raddysh put up 26 PP points in a career year playing with one of the most dangerous powerplay players of this generation, not to mention the league MVP, and you think he'll put up 9 more with a rookie feeding him instead?

Kuch is amazing obviously, but Knies/Tavares/Nylander/Matthews looks pretty great on paper too. And thats obviously before adding McKenna. Pretty easy to argue this could be as good or better than TB for him.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I mean, if by free you mean you paying $68 million sure, and by #1D you mean a guy who is a PP specialist and atrocious defensively, sure. I think it was a needed signing, but lets not exaggerate.

I think, at worst, the Leafs might get a Ghostisbehere-type impact. The main thing now is surrounding Raddysh with the other types that made Carolina a successful blueline.

 

[Strangle]

To be clear, the OG bet was that the leafs will finish in a divisional playoff spot next year. I’m game if you are.

I’m game, just dm me the terms so I don’t forget

LETS GO!

 

[General Fanager]

Knies was shopped by the previous GM, not current. No reason to think he’s moved.

Mckenna is almost certainly their pick from all reports I’ve seen

His name is still out there. Multiple reports saying so.

 

[stealth1]

Leafs are adding Tanev McKenna Raddysh and Andrae to the roster.

We back up.

It's definitely something. Maybe better but still not better than Ottawa Buffalo, Montreal or Tampa's top 4

 

[A1LeafNation]

All the reports saying he took less to come here.

HFboards classic clueless comments.

 

[Buckley]

I mean, if by free you mean you paying $68 million sure, and by #1D you mean a guy who is a PP specialist and atrocious defensively, sure. I think it was a needed signing, but lets not exaggerate.

I don't think anyone has said that he is "atrocious defensively". No one will claim that he is Jacob Slavin, but come on. Everyone in Toronto knows what he is - a guy who will produce a lot of power play points and transition the puck out of the defensive zone well. He is not being paid like Cale Makar because he is not Cale Makar.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Your analysis is just terrible... I think it is likely a fair deal and could go up or down slightly either way, but this isn't Clarkson... this is a D who has proven to be worth a slightly smaller contract over 2 years and then proven to be worth a much larger contract in 1 year... it isn't Clarkson who was a 3rd liner.

you already told me my analysis is terrible and I dont care, maybe I shouldn't have said Clarkson but Im more so using it as an example. everyone was excited as hell with Clarkson till a couple months in and I kinda feel thats how this is going to workout.

unless we can move Raddysh when/if he's terrible and I think that will be pretty early in this 8x contract then it's worse than the Clarkson deal. atleast that we were able to dump it for Horton and then throw on LTIR, this potentially could be worse. 8 years is a LONG time and Im not sure teams will be lining up to help us unless we pay up. moving Marleau's 6.5m cost a 1st as a UFA. what's 8.5m going to cost with years left?

this is High Risk/High Reward and I dont like the risk. sorry if u dislike that

 

[Buckley]

Raddysh put up 26 PP points in a career year playing with one of the most dangerous powerplay players of this generation, not to mention the league MVP, and you think he'll put up 9 more with a rookie feeding him instead?

Yeah, because he will get even more power play time in Toronto. He got that power play time in Tampa largely when Hedman was out. When the latter was playing, Raddysh's power play time decreased. That won't be the case in Toronto. He will play 90 seconds of every 2 minute power play all season. That will be the reason for the increase. It's not any more complicated than that. I don't think he is going to turn into Bobby Orr in Toronto. I think he's just going to get even more opportunity than he had in Tampa, and that should naturally translate into more points.