Proposal: Tor-tb

[Halla]

to TB: Tyler Bozak (4.2per, UFA in 2018)

to TOR: Valterri Filppula (5per, UFA in 2018), 2nd rd in 2017

Toronto gets a shakeup, and hopes Filppula can develop chemistry with
Komarov and or/ Kapanen. They get an extra pick because bozak has been more productive of late, and is cheaper and younger. The key to the deal for TB though is shedding the NMC of Filppulla. They get a solid #2-3C that has a career 0.62ppg pace, who should be good for 47-49pts or so. In this scenario they don't have to risk losing killorn to vegas

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[Prairie Habs]

Would he waive to go from TB to TOR? I know every player to ever play only dreams of playing in Toronto but it doesn't always end up that way.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Babcock and Filp do not get along. Never going to happen.

 

[DFC]

Yeah, I was reminded in another thread that Flip left Detroit pretty much because he didn't want to play under Babcock. Can't see them reuniting.

TB would probably only want a pick too, just to clear the salary. Flip has been really good this year though.

 

[sansabri]

For sure Filppulla would love to go from a contender to a bottom dweller...

 

[CanadienShark]

I don't see the rationale here. I don't see why TB would move a 2nd rounder with Filppula for a redundant piece that doesn't even save them much over the rest of the contract.

 

[Pyrophorus]

For sure Filppulla would love to go from a contender to a bottom dweller...

Not even in the bottom third of the league is a bottom dweller?
Only separated by 2 points too.

Hyperbole much? Yes.

 

[Pyrophorus]

I don't see the rationale here. I don't see why TB would move a 2nd rounder with Filppula for a redundant piece that doesn't even save them much over the rest of the contract.

This I agree with, and the alleged Babcock factor.
This isn't really a great deal for either side.

 

[SoupNazi]

Flip left Detroit to get away from Babcock. No way this happens.

 

[izzy]

No from Flip

 

[CanadienShark]

This I agree with, and the alleged Babcock factor.
This isn't really a great deal for either side.

Agreed. I don't think a 2nd rounder will make a big difference for the Leafs. They're stocked with good young prospects. Moving Bozak for Filppula would be detrimental.

 

[DFC]

Could we interest you in a Callahan?

 

[Halla]

I don't see the rationale here. I don't see why TB would move a 2nd rounder with Filppula for a redundant piece that doesn't even save them much over the rest of the contract.

he has a NMC. if he refused to waive for not wanting to go to vegas, TB would lose 1 of Killorn,Drouin,Palat

 

[Halla]

Could we interest you in a Callahan?

what would the significant plus be coming with him?
because Toronto probably has the room to do it

 

[DFC]

what would the significant plus be coming with him?
because Toronto probably has the room to do it

I'd probably move a 2nd or the equivalent.

 

[Halla]

I'd probably move a 2nd or the equivalent.

it cost florida crouse to get rid of Bollands 5.5x3 years.
Chicago had to include teravainen just to unload bickels final year at 4m
taking on datsyuks cap hit allowed zona to move up to grab chychrun.

Callahan has 4 years @5.8 left. no one is touching that for a late 2nd

 

[DFC]

it cost florida crouse to get rid of Bollands 5.5x3 years.
Chicago had to include teravainen just to unload bickels final year at 4m
taking on datsyuks cap hit allowed zona to move up to grab chychrun.

Callahan has 4 years @5.8 left. no one is touching that for a late 2nd

Two decent draft picks went back in the Crouse-Bolland deal.

Callahan isn't comparable to Bickell. Callahan is still a very useful player, at times very useful, just not worth his salary.

Our only reason to move him would be so we could protect Alex Killorn from Vegas. At the point that we're giving up more than Alex Killorn to move Callahan, it's not worth it.

 

[Halla]

Two decent draft picks went back in the Crouse-Bolland deal.

Callahan isn't comparable to Bickell. Callahan is still a very useful player, at times very useful, just not worth his salary.

Our only reason to move him would be so we could protect Alex Killorn from Vegas. At the point that we're giving up more than Alex Killorn to move Callahan, it's not worth it.

marc savard brought back a 2nd just for his cap hit....

is callahan useful? yes. is he worth anything close to 6 mil with 4 years remaining? not even close

Johnson,Palat,Drouin are all RFA and Bishop is a UFA this year. protecting killorn isnt the only reason they need to dump callahan
pick 55ish just isnt gonna come close to unloading that contract

 

[DFC]

marc savard brought back a 2nd just for his cap hit....

is callahan useful? yes. is he worth anything close to 6 mil with 4 years remaining? not even close

Johnson,Palat,Drouin are all RFA and Bishop is a UFA this year. protecting killorn isnt the only reason they need to dump callahan
pick 55ish just sint gonna come close to unloading that contract

TB isn't resigning Bishop either way. Filppula has been a pleasant surprise so far this season and is likely moveable, either now or after the expansion draft. By getting Kucherov under contract, Yzerman actual solved a large part of TB's cap problems, because it gets us to the expansion draft, after which time some of our contracts (Garrison, Coburn, Filppula) became much easier to move if we have to move one or two of them. And with replacements (Koekkoek, Point) having gained experience to take on a bigger role.

I don't see a reason to unload Callahan other than using his space to protect Killorn. So, while I would like to do that, I'm not willing to give a piece more valuable than Killorn to get it done.

I get it if Toronto fans don't think that's worth it from their end. I wasn't thinking it was something they obviously should do. Just throwing it out there in case they wanted a gritty winger with leadership abilities, who's also overpaid.

 

[lebdafor norris]

For sure Filppulla would love to go from a contender to a bottom dweller...

He'll also lose a significant amount of $$ to taxes if he gets traded to TO, I highly doubt he would waive his NMC to come here.

 

[Prominence]

to TB: Tyler Bozak (4.2per, UFA in 2018)

to TOR: Valterri Filppula (5per, UFA in 2018), 2nd rd in 2017

Toronto gets a shakeup, and hopes Filppula can develop chemistry with
Komarov and or/ Kapanen. They get an extra pick because bozak has been more productive of late, and is cheaper and younger. The key to the deal for TB though is shedding the NMC of Filppulla. They get a solid #2-3C that has a career 0.62ppg pace, who should be good for 47-49pts or so. In this scenario they don't have to risk losing killorn to vegas

Huge IF. Bozak by himself nets either a 2nd or 3rd. Filppula has awful possession numbers. If Toronto was getting an extra pick, it would be 2 2nds not one. Leafs also do not need a #2-3 C as Kadri is slotted to be either the #2/#3 C.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Not even in the bottom third of the league is a bottom dweller?
Only separated by 2 points too.

Hyperbole much? Yes.

30th in the league last season. 13 games does not change that.

 

[Randy Randerson]

30th in the league last season. 13 games does not change that.

so the logic here is that, because we finished in last place last year, we're destined to repeat as the last place team this year...or that the moniker "bottom dwellers" is to be used in perpetuity regardless of results?

 

[HoseEmDown]

Why trade a 2nd rounder to not upgrade at the 3C position and have minimal cap savings? This trade makes no sense for Tampa as the difference between the two on the ice and in cap isn't worth the 2nd.

 

[russ4king]

to TB: Tyler Bozak (4.2per, UFA in 2018)

to TOR: Valterri Filppula (5per, UFA in 2018), 2nd rd in 2017

Toronto gets a shakeup, and hopes Filppula can develop chemistry with
Komarov and or/ Kapanen. They get an extra pick because bozak has been more productive of late, and is cheaper and younger. The key to the deal for TB though is shedding the NMC of Filppulla. They get a solid #2-3C that has a career 0.62ppg pace, who should be good for 47-49pts or so. In this scenario they don't have to risk losing killorn to vegas

Why does Toronto need a shakeup? They are exactly where they plan to be. They need another top 10 pick. Stay the course. Why help Tampa Bay out of their expansion problems? Keep Bozak and ride the season out.