Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] T.J. Brodie signs with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $5M AAV)

[Oilers Propagandist]

I guess we shall see. Btw.. he's a solid 6'1" 214 lbs who can hold his own.

You’re right, we shall see but I’m more inclined to believe what I’ve seen from him since he started out in the NHL. And yes, very tuff.

 

[Rubi]

You’re right, we shall see but I’m more inclined to believe what I’ve seen from him since he started out in the NHL. And yes, very tuff.

He's improving with every game. Mark my words... he'll be Gio's d partner over Tanev. He'll likely lead the Flames in TOI.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Dont get upset,but so far he has added old men and never has beens...He had the bottom 6 but he chose to think skill was the only thing that mattered...Terrible job on putting a balanced top 9 together..I dont hate the Leafs dude,but come on he has every resource available to him ...Resigning Spezza and adding old men like Thorton and Simmonds isnt near enough to help fix Toronto ...

You hate the leafs dude.
Bottom 6 isnt our problem, and even then... Simmonds/Spezza / Thornton can be complimentary guys there, if they have to. (But I think they all have okay bottom 6 potential with this team... there job is to be good leaders and make the youth stand taller)

The problem was our D... and clearly it worries leaf haters because we obviously upgraded there- a guy for Rielly , size for bottom pair , a wild card in Lehtonen.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

He's improving with every game. Mark my words... he'll be Gio's d partner over Tanev. He'll likely lead the Flames in TOI.

Well it’s okay to think that as players are supposed to get better over time but I personally think the flames should target someone like Anthony Deangelo. The guy has the ability to play on your top pairing d, have tanev on the second pair and Andersson on your 3rd. ADA I think will flourish more learning from gio as he is getting older and a year closer to retiring. ADA would add the defensive depth you need to win a round or 2.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Kapanen was easily one of the Leafs best players in the playoffs. They were stupid for trading him. Leafs issue is simple. The people running the team are clueless. Passing on Schneider which is exactly the kind of d man they need to draft another soft, offensive player is a perfect example of why they will never win anything.

Clueless is a great word... but I'd use it to describe someone else!

The drafting has been phenomenal..and there is 0 reason to question it.
Amirov is far from soft, small and proved his stock..even over this weekends tourney.

 

[Allhailtheleafs]

Yeah, okay bud. While Gio is almost useless defensively he can produce points very good as shown by his norris win last year. Also gio is a tuff guy.
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Look at the age difference... Also, really puts up crazy points. Plus, he's good defensively .Norris is definitely in his sights.

 

[Dache]

Really? The point isn’t to win the Stanley Cup? What was the point you’re trying to make then cause it really sounded like you were insinuating that the Pens have done a poor job building a team recently

 

[Habs Halifax]

Really? The point isn’t to win the Stanley Cup? What was the point you’re trying to make then cause it really sounded like you were insinuating that the Pens have done a poor job building a team recently

The point was it worked for the Pens and not for the Leafs.... or any other team. Matthews and Tavares is not Crosby and Malkin.

 

[Dache]

We did have better depth last year, which is why our metrics didn't plummet despite massive and constant injuries. The Leafs did not improve in the standings primarily because of goaltending getting worse, and I didn't say last year was the best goaltending depth.

The point is that the leafs actual points in the standings have decreased A few years in a row. Last off season you made the same claim that it was because of “vezina quality backup goaltending” and now you’re using the same excuse again. That excuse doesn’t work for a decrease in points 2 years in a row. As far as injuries, every team gets injuries. And for how much I heard that the leafs have one of the deepest teams in the league that excuse doesn’t fly.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

Look at the age difference... Also, really puts up crazy points. Plus, he's good defensively .Norris is definitely in his sights.

Watching Rielly get torched by McDavid added to my thoughts of watching Rielly a lot that he is not that good and overrated by the leafy fanbase.

 

[Dache]

The point was it worked for the Pens and not for the Leafs.... or any other team. Matthews and Tavares is not Crosby and Malkin.

I’m guessing the “how’s that working out so far” part of your original post was talking about the leafs and not the Pens then? A little oddly worded but I see what you’re trying to say

 

[Mobiandi]

Still mad Treliving f***ed this up

 

[Dache]

Look at the age difference... Also, really puts up crazy points. Plus, he's good defensively .Norris is definitely in his sights.

What exactly is “crazy” points? Or are we just going by one year again?

 

[Habs Halifax]

I’m guessing the “how’s that working out so far” part of your original post was talking about the leafs and not the Pens then? A little oddly worded but I see what you’re trying to say

Yes, that's what I meant. Copy the Caps, Blues, Lightning models to win. Pens way of winning cups has very low probability. Teams that have won have had complete teams for the most part. Even the Blackhawks won with crazy good depth.

 

[Dekes For Days]

The point is that the leafs actual points in the standings have decreased A few years in a row. Last off season you made the same claim that it was because of “vezina quality backup goaltending” and now you’re using the same excuse again. That excuse doesn’t work for a decrease in points 2 years in a row. As far as injuries, every team gets injuries. And for how much I heard that the leafs have one of the deepest teams in the league that excuse doesn’t fly.

What are you talking about? The Vezina-quality backup goaltending only happened in 2017-2018, and it and the unsustainable shootout record (which hasn't been good since) were what propped up 2017-2018's point totals. In 2018-2019, the team improved, but they got relatively average backup goaltending instead of Vezina-quality, and they didn't win a single shootout. This past year, they survived relatively well through their massive injuries with their improved depth, but Andersen struggled, Hutchinson had one of the worst goalie performances in the league, and they were bad at the shootout again. That's why point totals dropped for two years relative to that one inflated year, despite the team construction and depth improving each year. Backup goaltending and shootout record basically swung from one extreme to the other from two years ago.

 

[blankall]

I guarantee I watched almost the same amount of Flames games as you, only time I miss a flames game is when they compete with Oilers games or when I go to the bar. Andersson is a very tuff guy who would be a solid #4 on a cup contending team. Not a #2.

He's only had 2 complete seasons in the NHL. No one knows what Andersson is. I would state that it is premature to state he's definite top 2 d-man though. Last year he looked at home in the top 4 and pretty solid in the stints on the top pairing.

Tanev was brough in because Valimaki and Andersson both need more time.

 

[Fogelhund]

Watching Rielly get torched by McDavid added to my thoughts of watching Rielly a lot that he is not that good and overrated by the leafy fanbase.

McDavid has made pretty much everyone look bad at some point, and every D man will look bad at various points. Maybe it's a shock, Rielly is mediocre in his own zone, and one of the better offensive D men in the league. He's excelled when paired with a strong defensive partner, to cover up from his weaknesses. Leafs fans know what he is, and what he isn't, with no need for Hyperbole to solicit strong responses.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Surely you guys can bicker about Rasmus Andersson elsewhere.

 

[Dache]

What are you talking about? The Vezina-quality backup goaltending only happened in 2017-2018, and it and the unsustainable shootout record (which hasn't been good since) were what propped up 2017-2018's point totals. In 2018-2019, the team improved, but they got relatively average backup goaltending instead of Vezina-quality, and they didn't win a single shootout. This past year, they survived relatively well through their massive injuries with their improved depth, but Andersen struggled, Hutchinson had one of the worst goalie performances in the league, and they were bad at the shootout again. That's why point totals dropped for two years relative to that one inflated year, despite the team construction and depth improving each year. Backup goaltending and shootout record basically swung from one extreme to the other from two years ago.

This is exactly what I’m talking about. You say 2017-18 was an anomaly, and that’s the reason why you had a decrease in points for 2018-19, but they also had a worse points pace this year, so the vezina backup excuse doesn’t work anymore. And I explained about the injuries already, that’s no excuse. Every team has injuries. The leafs have a lot of talent, no one is saying they don’t. But you’re trying to paint this picture that they’re improving every year but in reality, in the categories that count they haven’t been.

 

[Legion34]

Watching Rielly get torched by McDavid added to my thoughts of watching Rielly a lot that he is not that good and overrated by the leafy fanbase.

players get torched by mcdavid all the time. The fact that it took rielly to be playing with a massive injury that severely compromised his mobility to have it finally happen to him is pretty Impressive

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

He's only had 2 complete seasons in the NHL. No one knows what Andersson is. I would state that it is premature to state he's definite top 2 d-man though. Last year he looked at home in the top 4 and pretty solid in the stints on the top pairing.

Tanev was brough in because Valimaki and Andersson both need more time.

I agree with all of that. Not some delusional slotting as the #2 defender stuff.

At this point, it's basically trolling, or someone who doesn't understand hockey. McDavid has made pretty much everyone look bad at some point, and every D man will look bad at various points. Maybe it's a shock, Rielly is mediocre in his own zone, and one of the better offensive D men in the league. He's excelled when paired with a strong defensive partner, to cover up from his weaknesses. Leafs fans know what he is, and what he isn't, with no need for Hyperbole to solicit strong responses.

Theres no basically anything, read what I was responding too, same thing you’re trying me for... hyperbole. Rielly is not even close to being as good as gio and almost no one sees a norris in his future. The bolded directly goes against what the poster I quoted stated and a thought I know and everyone else objectively knows including yourself, so move along.

 

[GM Armchair]

Every year toronto makes a trade that puts them as the Stanley cup favourites and every year it’s the same thing.

 

[ACC1224]

Every year toronto makes a trade that puts them as the Stanley cup favourites and every year it’s the same thing.

Show your work or people will think you're trolling.

 

[Volica]

Show your work or people will think you're trolling.

I honestly would love for someone to go back to the JT signing threads and the Barrie trade threads to pull out some of the magic that was in there.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

I hate the Leafs but I'm not sure why people don't like this signing. Seems like a pretty good one to me. Checks boxes, doesn't it?