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Proposal: TOR-STL Prospect Swap
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Barbashev is about the extent of the Blues organizational depth at Center. There is no way they trade him unless a better/more developed Center is coming back. Schmaltz is the heir apparent to Shattenkirk in the likely event that he is trade or walks.
Even if I liked the two players from TOR (which I don't) I don't see why the Blues are dealing from an area of need to obtain two wingers, an area of organizational depth.
Even if I liked the two players from TOR (which I don't) I don't see why the Blues are dealing from an area of need to obtain two wingers, an area of organizational depth.
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I'd say that Rychel as it stands is currently the 4th best prospect and Kapanen is the best.
Kapanen
Schmaltz
Barbashev
Rychel
However your rationale spells it out perfectly, Toronto is giving good prospects but they don't do anything for St.Louis so the deal dies there. Maybe if St.Louis needed the players it is something to consider.
Value good.
Needs don't align
I'd like to add Kapanen, but I'm not trading Schmaltz and Barbashev to do it.
No interest in Rychel, and he might actually be picked by Vegas since he is waiver exempt next season.
No interest in Rychel, and he might actually be picked by Vegas since he is waiver exempt next season.
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No he's not. Almost every expansion eligible player out there requires waivers(by design of when waivers usually start in the 4th year). The only exception I can find is goalies who started playing in the AHL at the right time as goalies get 1 extra year. Bibeau being an example of a expansion eligible, waiver exempt goalie.
https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers_calculator/kerby-rychel
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Thanks, I didn't check and made assumptions because he was still on his ELC.
That's another reason for the Blues not to be interested.
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Now I'm no STL prospect expert but is anyone else at all surprised that they are hearing Schmaltz is supposed to be a Shattenkirk replacement? Bit of a stretch isn't it?
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I assume they're suggesting filling that role, just not necessarily at the same level as Shattenkirk.
Sounds like there are no players involved in this that help either team.
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I kinda had to double take those comments as well. Parayko has been lauded as the Shatty replacement now for a year or so. I mean Schmaltz might develop well and get to that level too who knows, I'm not to say it's not possible but you don't need 2 replacements for 1 guy.
Maybe it's more Parayko replace the minutes as that top pair RHD while Schmaltz is expected to be the guy who replaces that Shatty scoring role? IDK
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He's not going to perform at the same level as Shattenkirk, he's simply the prospect most suitable to take over Shattenkirk's role.
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Parayko already plays more minutes than Shattenkirk does and deservedly so. As for "the minutes as that top pair RHD," that would be Alex Pietrangelo.
"Shattenkirk replacement" is about role. A puck-mover they use to take advantage of easier match-ups and can produce on the powerplay.
This.
Parayko isn't a replacement for Shattenkirk, he is a player that simply makes Shattenkirk expendable. We can't keep everyone. Schmaltz's role next season will likely be much more comparable to the role that Shattenkirk currently plays.
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I know Parayko is playing an extremely important role, moreso than Shattenkirk. Just saying for the past year from what I've read on here Shattenkirk replacement is more a term that's been tied to Parayko. Meaning Shattenkirk is expendable because we have Parayko.
I'm not even suggesting you should trade Schmaltz so perhaps I'm getting off topic here just thought that was tied more to Parayko and it's the first time I've heard it for Schmaltz.
I'm not even suggesting you should trade Schmaltz so perhaps I'm getting off topic here just thought that was tied more to Parayko and it's the first time I've heard it for Schmaltz.
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Thats because Schmaltz doesn't come up alot on thr main boards. Visit the Blues board, thats been the line of thinking for quite awhile now.
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Is Shattenkirk for sure gone after this season? If he resigns does that make Schmaltz available? From what I've read online, I'd really like for the Leafs to trade for Schmaltz but if it's centers they want I doubt we got what you need.
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Cap wise it makes zero sense to re-sign. I'd love to keep him, but we need to invest the money (6-6.5M) he'd cost, into another need (center).
You have exactly what we need in that Matthews kid
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Cap wise it makes zero sense to re-sign. I'd love to keep him, but we need to invest the money (6-6.5M) he'd cost, into another need (center).
You have exactly what we need in that Matthews kid
How about the other highly touted center we have, Bozak
Shattenkirk is almost certainly gone.
Armstrong likes bridge deals, but he went long term with Pietrangelo and Tarasenko out of their bridge deals. I'd expect he'll be wanting long term with Parayko. We don't have the cap space to be investing $18m+ on our 3 RHD.
Plus, Schmaltz is near NHL ready. Then we also have 2 other very promising PMD prospects (Dunn & Walman, both LHD).
It's difficult to see a scenario where he is back next season.
