Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] John Tavares signs with the Leafs (7 years, $11M AAV) Part III

[bobholly39]

Regarding the whole captaincy/jealousy idea between Matthews/Tavares....

I don't buy it. I mean it's possible. If Matthews happens to be an extremely petty/insecure person of course it's possible and even likely that he'd feel threatened, but i doubt it.

In my opinion - Matthews would feel a LOT more threatened if they brought someone more equal to him in age - like an Eichel or McDavid.

Tavares - he's older/established. It would be equivalent to bringing in a Crosby, or Toews, or Bergeron - he's a veteran who you respect and is a fantastic player/leader, and if they end up being given the captaincy, that's a great leader to learn from. Matthews - being younger - would be an assistant and eventually inherit the C.

 

[Nizdizzle]

Regarding the whole captaincy/jealousy idea between Matthews/Tavares....

I don't buy it. I mean it's possible. If Matthews happens to be an extremely petty/insecure person of course it's possible and even likely that he'd feel threatened, but i doubt it.

In my opinion - Matthews would feel a LOT more threatened if they brought someone more equal to him in age - like an Eichel or McDavid.

Tavares - he's older/established. It would be equivalent to bringing in a Crosby, or Toews, or Bergeron - he's a veteran who you respect and is a fantastic player/leader, and if they end up being given the captaincy, that's a great leader to learn from. Matthews - being younger - would be an assistant and eventually inherit the C.

The captaincy "controversy" is just BS stirred up by those folks scrambling for any way to spin this signing as a negative.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Poor kadri. Playing with 4th liners. Should be him playing with marner.
I guess he has to play with 4th liners since the leafs can't afford to pay for 3rd liners since the need to budget about 25 million to pay 3 players within a year.

Don't forget Marner was a fourth liner for a while on HF. Even had a link to prove it. Something like this: https://www.tsn.ca/marner-moves-to-leafs-fourth-line-at-practice-1.886410

 

[bobholly39]

The captaincy "controversy" is just BS stirred up by those folks scrambling for any way to spin this signing as a negative.

I'm a habs fan. A few years ago players voted on captaincy between Subban and Pacioretty. This is arguably the catalyst that led to the chain effect that has been blowing up our core since then.

All i'll say is where there's smoke there tends to be fire. I hope for your sake Leafs management ends up handling the situation going forward better than they did in Montreal. I agree with you i don't think there's any issue now and it's all speculation by certain people. But it doesn't mean an issue can't arise from it in the future, if the situation isn't handled properly. The rumors of a Matthews/Babcock issue doesn't help

 

[Ratboy]

The captaincy "controversy" is just BS stirred up by those folks scrambling for any way to spin this signing as a negative.

Pretty much. If you pay attention to Auston in anyway as a person you see he doesn't have a big ego.

 

[ffh]

Don't forget Marner was a fourth liner for a while on HF. Even had a link to prove it. Something like this: https://www.tsn.ca/marner-moves-to-leafs-fourth-line-at-practice-1.886410

Playing on the 4th line for a small amount of time during the year for a young skilled player happens all the time. Playing all year on a line with ahlers is kadri's reward for being a good 2nd line centre.

Edit. Should have said 4th liners not ahlers.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

He's coming home to sunny Vancouver. You already have a 1st line centre. You don't need two.

Maybe you should pass that information along to Pittsburgh then.

 

[GBLeaf]

I'm a habs fan. A few years ago players voted on captaincy between Subban and Pacioretty. This is arguably the catalyst that led to the chain effect that has been blowing up our core since then.

All i'll say is where there's smoke there tends to be fire. I hope for your sake Leafs management ends up handling the situation going forward better than they did in Montreal. I agree with you i don't think there's any issue now and it's all speculation by certain people. But it doesn't mean an issue can't arise from it in the future, if the situation isn't handled properly. The rumors of a Matthews/Babcock issue doesn't help

The catalyst there is the decision to have a vote between players, that's always going to leave the 2nd place person feeling a bit pissed their team mates chose someone else above them.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I'm a habs fan. A few years ago players voted on captaincy between Subban and Pacioretty. This is arguably the catalyst that led to the chain effect that has been blowing up our core since then.

All i'll say is where there's smoke there tends to be fire. I hope for your sake Leafs management ends up handling the situation going forward better than they did in Montreal. I agree with you i don't think there's any issue now and it's all speculation by certain people. But it doesn't mean an issue can't arise from it in the future, if the situation isn't handled properly. The rumors of a Matthews/Babcock issue doesn't help

Where there's smoke there's often sports media spewing garbage hoping to get clicks. Watch the clip below where Bobby Orr addresses these issues after having spoken with Matthews. The idea of Matthews having any issues with Tavares or the captaincy or anything else is so amusing to him that he just laughs, laughs, and laughs some more and you can tell it comes straight from the heart. Bobby Orr is as honest and as classy an individual as has ever been associated with the game of hockey, his laughter and the smile on his face tells you all you need to know - there are no issues here, period.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/orr-reports-of-rift-are-silly-wrong-and-not-true~1435364

 

[NiL8r87]

I'm a habs fan. A few years ago players voted on captaincy between Subban and Pacioretty. This is arguably the catalyst that led to the chain effect that has been blowing up our core since then.

All i'll say is where there's smoke there tends to be fire. I hope for your sake Leafs management ends up handling the situation going forward better than they did in Montreal. I agree with you i don't think there's any issue now and it's all speculation by certain people. But it doesn't mean an issue can't arise from it in the future, if the situation isn't handled properly. The rumors of a Matthews/Babcock issue doesn't help

The difference is Subban and Pacioretty hated eachother and most of your team hated Subban. There hasn’t even been time for smoke to develop and you’re telling us there’s smoke lol.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Playing on the 4th line for a small amount of time during the year for a young skilled player happens all the time. Playing all year on a line with ahlers is kadri's reward for being a good 2nd line centre.

Edit. Should have said 4th liners not ahlers.

Of course it does. These would be AHL graduates I believe.

 

[Dr Pepper]

The captaincy "controversy" is just BS stirred up by those folks scrambling for any way to spin this signing as a negative.

By "those folks" you mean TSN, right?

The same ones running around screaming that there was a big rift between Matthews and Babcock?

I think the C should go to Rielly.

A's to Tavares, Matthews, and Kadri.

Problem solved.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Don't forget Marner was a fourth liner for a while on HF. Even had a link to prove it. Something like this: https://www.tsn.ca/marner-moves-to-leafs-fourth-line-at-practice-1.886410

Pretty sure when he didn't step right into the league he was a bust, too.
Oh, and Boston was going to render him ineffective with physical play in the playoffs....
Wait a second...

 

[Cotton]

By "those folks" you mean TSN, right?

The same ones running around screaming that there was a big rift between Matthews and Babcock?

I think the C should go to Rielly.

A's to Tavares, Matthews, and Kadri.

Problem solved.

That was Nick Kypreos of sportsnet. Then John Shannon, also of sportsnet.

It was all BS from the start, based off of Kypreos interpreting Matthews body language, and anyone who believed there was a rift has BS for brains.

 

[4thline]

The Leafs just turned a 2nd line centre and a good one into a checker. Hope he plays more then 12 minutes a game with the two number 1 centre's there.

Well he'll have to to make up for us only dressing 10 forwards a night won't he?

 

[LeafsNation75]

Lamoriello excited about Isles’ future home at Belmont

“I was extremely disappointed with the window of interviews; that was not the intention of how the league and union intended it,” said Lamoriello, declining to go into further details as to what irked him about the process. “I was very disappointed with the way the process was. I’ve never seen it like this one.”

 

[Canada4Gold]

Playing on the 4th line for a small amount of time during the year for a young skilled player happens all the time. Playing all year on a line with ahlers is kadri's reward for being a good 2nd line centre.

Edit. Should have said 4th liners not ahlers.

Matthews played and is playing with AHLers as well. Turns out, sometimes guys that come up from the AHL prove to be NHLers as well. Fancy that.

 

[SI90]

Lamoriello excited about Isles’ future home at Belmont

He never explained further what he was disappointed about. Idk. I posted that comment yesterday and nobody seems to know what he’s talking about. Could be just sour grapes but from Lamoriello that’s unlikely. Wish we would just move on. It’s over.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Lamoriello excited about Isles’ future home at Belmont

Too perfect. The warden of Robidas Island and architect of the Kovalchuk contract is complaining about a collectively bargained process not adhering to the leagues intentions.

 

[LeafsNation75]

He never explained further what he was disappointed about. Idk. I posted that comment yesterday and nobody seems to know what he’s talking about. Could be just sour grapes but from Lamoriello that’s unlikely. Wish we would just move on. It’s over.

If Tavares had re-signed with the Islanders or still signed with the Leafs with Lou as their GM, I guarantee Lou does not complain about this.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Too perfect. The warden of Robidas Island and architect of the Kovalchuk contract is complaining about a collectively bargained process not adhering to the leagues intentions.

This sounds like the saying "The pot calling the kettle black".

 

[Liferleafer]

Lamoriello excited about Isles’ future home at Belmont

Dear Lou, you are not the only GM that can manipulate the rules. I appreciate the way you worked them to the Leafs advantage when you were here....but you can't whine now.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Yup. The Leafs have a LOT of good young defencemen coming up now, and it will hopefully pay dividends for years to come. Dermott is already there, and Liljegren is maybe a year away, and then there's Sandin and Durzi on the way, then Rasanen, Gordeev, Kral, Hollowel, Greenway, Nielson..........even if just a few of these kids pan out, it'll be huge.

I don't think Nielson will make it, at least as a Leaf, he seems to be getting passed rather quickly on the depth chart, IF he makes it, it's probably with another team.

 

[SI90]

If Tavares had re-signed with the Islanders or still signed with the Leafs with Lou as their GM, I guarantee Lou does not complain about this.

Most likely not.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Most likely not.

Exactly and Lou should remember this. He first meet with Tavares on behalf of the Islanders when he was still employed by the Leafs as a Senior Advisor. So that right there proves he should not complain just because he didn't get his way and re-sign him.