Confirmed with Link: [TOR/FLA] Denis Malgin for Mason Marchment

[napoleon in rags]

I think Cliff Fletcher made this trade.

 

[Warden of the North]

I think Cliff Fletcher made this trade.

Fletcher would have traded Kapanen and Sandin for Blake Coleman

 

[kb]

You dont think kadris salary for a 3rd line centre was too expensive?
I'm not commenting on kadris style of play. Lemieux played in an era when his style of play was the norm and accepted. Today's NHL is different.
By your own admission Kari was our best shutdown centre, so how him getting suspended 2 years in a row in a massive playoff match up not shooting the team in the foot? Being shot in the foot means the team is weaker and has to compensate for an important missing part, not that it cripples the team.
He was overpriced for the role we needed and hurt the team and the fans at important times.
Just the overpriced tag makes a trade a necessity in a cap world.
We are not debating if Kadri is a good hockey player or if we like him.

Kadri had either Komarov or Brown stapled to him for good reason....because he absolutely needed it.

 

[Hinterland]

On the cats board, they seem happy to get rid of Malgin; at least, that seemed the majority consensus I got from reading a 2 page thread or so.

They were also happy to get rid of McCann so I wouldn't read too much into it. Both players were lacking consistency of course which is frustrating for the fans but the organization and its coaching staffs were at the very least part of the problem.

 

[qqaz]

Dubas explained himself pretty well. Marchment was undrafted, but was brought up in the Leafs system, and he's now been turned into a guy that should be able to play 15 minutes a game on a 3rd line.

That's a legit NHL contributor made out of thin air. I couldn't be happier!

Combine Malgin with Mikheyev, and you've got solid depth without any draft picks. That's super important since management has identified a window and will use our picks to win now.

 

[Leafsfan74]

Bruins picked up Kase of the Ducks for Backes, a First Rounder, Anderssen AND Bruins pick up some of the tab?

I guess Bruins really are going for broke. I think this is a gross overpayment, salaries aside. There must be more brewing for the Bruins. Look out.

Bruins acquire Kase from Ducks for Backes, first-round pick, prospect - Sportsnet.ca

 

[Lemontree]

Islanders surely haven’t missed a beat with him gone.

They can’t score....everyone associated with that team should miss him.

 

[Pi]

I really liked Malgin every time we played the Panthers. Like that we got him for cheap.

We at least know one guy who will show up against the Panthers in our remaining games.

 

[GoonieFace]

They can’t score....everyone associated with that team should miss him.

Well, they won a playoff round last year and are currently in a playoff spot. Not saying Tavares isn't good, but they also didn't fold without him.

 

[The Iceman]

Where do these numbers come from?

from an article in The Athletic today.

The Calgary playoff percentage seemed low.

 

[666]

from an article in The Athletic today.

The Calgary playoff percentage seemed low.

Thanks, that's interesting, but I don't think that sort of thing can be reliably calculated. I'll try to find the article.

 

[daveleaf]

Well, pretty hard for a top line player to come out of nowhere.

Funny.

 

[ottomaddox]

I thought Malgin was going to be a superstar.

I was wrong.

 

[Joey Hoser]

I thought Malgin was going to be a superstar.

I was wrong.

Why on earth would you think that? We got him for Marchment.

 

[Papa Cherry]

When they traded for Malgin I assumed it was for the second line in the AHL not NHL lol

Really missing Jonnson right now.

 

[ottomaddox]

Why on earth would you think that? We got him for Marchment.

Thought he was Malkin. Thought Dubas fleeced PIT. Wrong player & wrong trade. Sorry...

 

[janesy12]

So this didn't turn out great.
Malgin just signed a 4 year deal with Zurich.

Marchment looked to be somewhat useful for the Panthers last year.

 

[Magic Man]

So this didn't turn out great.
Malgin just signed a 4 year deal with Zurich.

Marchment looked to be somewhat useful for the Panthers last year.

Given the player type the Leafs should covet and how Marchment was developing it was never a very attractive deal. He was one of the best body checkers in the AHL.

The Leafs did not even really want to get a look at Marchment at the NHL level. They had their minds made up about his upside to move him in that type of deal. It already looks like poor talent evaluation. Or a lack of interest in specific skills by the GM. They traded him for another 5'9 player.

 

[Sypher04]

Marchment is hardly a loss worth lamenting. Players like him, but better, are available every single year in free agency. And very often for cheap

 

[RoadWarrior]

They thought they could win with skill alone. Sure that can work in junior hockey but in the flat cap NHL it’s character that makes all the difference.

 

[notbias]

So this didn't turn out great.
Malgin just signed a 4 year deal with Zurich.

Marchment looked to be somewhat useful for the Panthers last year.

He had a Mikheyev level of production, not really sure where he would fit on the team, not sure where Malgin would have fit either.

I can't see a way he would play this year either unless it is instead of Simmonds, but then he'd be getting ~8 mins a night instead of ~14.

I just don't think we had space for him, I am fine letting players like him or Leivo go if there is no fit, I think it shows other players we won't mess around with their career if they don't work out here. Maybe it never helps us sign a player, but maybe there are players who sign here that do so knowing they will be taken care of if things don't work out, I'd rather that instead of holding onto a player who will have no impact here.

 

[sparxx87]

Marchment is hardly a loss worth lamenting. Players like him, but better, are available every single year in free agency. And very often for cheap

They got nothing for him? Giving up something for nothing is always a loss? … And can you list some of these other options for 700k? It appears to me that players that can skate and provide these physical tools in your top 9 are becoming increasingly rare… and the Leafs traded him for another small and soft perimeter player who can’t even make their team. (Wasn’t Petan a lesson?)

Selling low isn’t good, neither is buying high. Dubas accomplished both in this trade.

 

[ToneDog]

He had a Mikheyev level of production, not really sure where he would fit on the team, not sure where Malgin would have fit either.

I can't see a way he would play this year either unless it is instead of Simmonds, but then he'd be getting ~8 mins a night instead of ~14.

I just don't think we had space for him, I am fine letting players like him or Leivo go if there is no fit, I think it shows other players we won't mess around with their career if they don't work out here. Maybe it never helps us sign a player, but maybe there are players who sign here that do so knowing they will be taken care of if things don't work out, I'd rather that instead of holding onto a player who will have no impact here.

Yup Marchment may not have made an impact here but the fact is we pretty much got nothing for what was an asset which is now playing in the NHL. The trade is a minor fail.

 

[Sypher04]

They got nothing for him… And can you list some of these other options for 700k? It appears to me that players that can skate and provide these physical tools in your top 9 are becoming increasingly rare… and the Leafs traded him for another small and soft perimeter player who can’t even make their team. (Wasn’t Petan a lesson?)

Selling low isn’t good, neither is buying high. Dubas accomplished both in this trade.

I didn’t say for 700k but sub 1 million lots of options. Look for yourself.

marchment is a 4th liner. Nothing more

 

[sparxx87]

I didn’t say for 700k but sub 1 million lots of options. Look for yourself.

marchment is a 4th liner. Nothing more

You said better players are available, can you list some?

Salary is absolutely relevant, especially to this team.