Confirmed with Link: [TOR/DAL] Leafs acquire rights to Chris Tanev for Max Ellis, 2026 7th rd selection

[ULF_55]

You guys realize having a player on LTIR is not convenient for us, right?

He can retire right?
Isn't a 35+ contract.

Huge front end signing bonus and then he can retire rather than go on LTIR.
Leafs sign him into front office ... wink wink nudge nudge.

 

[notbias]

If we can, I would absolutely do the same thing with some other mid 30s guys if we think someone can give us a good 4 years. Front load the controls heavily, pad a couple extra years. Worst case scenario we eventually buy out the pittance of salary remaining if we cannot just LTIR or trade them. Hopefully in the meantime they can be major contributors to us winning.

I'd love to cheat the cap like some teams although I believe it is already being discussed amongst the league/owners/GMs that it is an issue, and when Stone does it for year 4, they may just try to tighten up LTIR.

Not sure I want to start buying out players as you suggested.

I trust the team that deals with the cap structure though, they seem to be wizards, so I am sure they will sort this out.

 

[notdoneyet]

Tanev was arguably Dallas best defender in the playoffs
Zadorov was arguably canucks best defender in playoffs

The worst kept secret we were signing at least one if not both these guys

 

[dubey]

Max he can sign for is 7 years. Why is that stupid?

If he were to retire, his cap hit is gone since he’s under 35.

Now we are seeing the subtle genius of this move

Long term + low cap

 

[BodaciousBeefBazooka]

We still don’t get it eh? He will be 35 years old… ya he is going to help turn this team around for the Stanley cup

 

[HockeyVirus]

Tanev was arguably Dallas best defender in the playoffs
Zadorov was arguably canucks best defender in playoffs

The worst kept secret we were signing at least one if not both these guys

We're going to get both. Hopefully we add Matt Roy as well

 

[trellaine201]

Why does HFboards allow all the trolls in the mainboard with no repercussions!
!

 

[1specter]

Dude I'm 35.... stop calling us grandpa's wtf lol

I am 30 going on 31, but 35 in the NHL may as well be geriatric

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Our defense just got a good bit better

 

[DarkKnight]

He’s played two full seasons, missed a handful one year, the last three years. Big deal.

 

[JimmyJiveJones]

I would like to chime in on his injury history. He tends to get injured playing for very bad teams. When the Canucks were good that 1 covid season, he played the whole season. Infact when he played for Calgary those 2 seasons when they were in the playoffs, he never missed a game aswell. But of course hes gonna get banged up when ur the #1 guy they send out to block shots and defend against the other teams best.

 

[Sypher04]

I'd love to cheat the cap like some teams although I believe it is already being discussed amongst the league/owners/GMs that it is an issue, and when Stone does it for year 4, they may just try to tighten up LTIR.

Not sure I want to start buying out players as you suggested.

I trust the team that deals with the cap structure though, they seem to be wizards, so I am sure they will sort this out.

This wouldn’t likely apply to that specific loophole. If Tanev is legit not able to play anymore for say the last 2 years that’s entirely different then someone sitting all year and coming back for the playoffs game 1.

Also, I only suggested buyout as a last resort option with very little remaining money on the deal, in the unlikely scenario that we couldn’t LTIR him if he can’t play, or trade him. If, let’s say the AAV was around $3M, and only like half that is actually salary that should be easy to get rid of without even resorting to a buyout situation.

 

[Da Mash]

Throwing away a 7th is nothing but the thought of giving a 35 yr old (mid season) a long term deal is just a terrible idea. But that’s Tre …he gave reaves a contract to long and now is attempting to over buy for Tanev.

He may be good for a few yrs…and then we will wondering how to get rid of that contact.

Not a fan

But what did we expect from Tre?

Let’s hope the cap hit is team friendly because that will be the only way you should offer a long term deal.

 

[Cleetus]

Our defense just got a good bit better

it sure did, he is an elite D-man, lets let Tre cook here, and see what his vision will be, I like it so far

 

[DarkKnight]

He can retire right?
Isn't a 35+ contract.

Huge front end signing bonus and then he can retire rather than go on LTIR.
Leafs sign him into front office ... wink wink nudge nudge.

Exactly, why are people being so purposely naive?

 

[Martin Skoula]

I would like to chime in on his injury history. He tends to get injured playing for very bad teams. When the Canucks were good that 1 covid season, he played the whole season. Infact when he played for Calgary those 2 seasons when they were in the playoffs, he never missed a game aswell. But of course hes gonna get banged up when ur the #1 guy they send out to block shots and defend against the other teams best.

Why would we sign a shot blocking shutdown D unless we’re sending him out to block shots and defend against the other teams best? If he’s not doing it, who is?

 

[Nineteen67]

If he's legitimately injured or not able to fuly physically play there's nothing the league can do to stop them.

He won’t be able to play, he’s 35.

 

[notbias]

He can retire right?
Isn't a 35+ contract.

Huge front end signing bonus and then he can retire rather than go on LTIR.
Leafs sign him into front office ... wink wink nudge nudge.

What are the rules around frontloading? I thought it couldn't be too heavily frontloaded.

 

[TOCap1]

It would be nice to get him a hair under 3m per year. 7 years 20mil front loaded as much as possible

 

[Gallagbi]

Exactly, why are people being so purposely naive?

The big risk is a decline in play before pay. He'll be 25 for 2025, and a front loaded contract could still mean big money in the first 2-4 years

 

[DarkKnight]

"Huge part of our group," DeBoer said before the game. "He affects all kinds of parts of the game."

"He's a warrior," Stars forward Jason Robertsonadded. "All you gotta do is look at his (toothless) smile, and you'll see how tough he is.

We just improved big time.

 

[notbias]

This wouldn’t likely apply to that specific loophole. If Tanev is legit not able to play anymore for say the last 2 years that’s entirely different then someone sitting all year and coming back for the playoffs game 1.

Also, I only suggested buyout as a last resort option with very little remaining money on the deal, in the unlikely scenario that we couldn’t LTIR him if he can’t play, or trade him. If, let’s say the AAV was around $3M, and only like half that is actually salary that should be easy to get rid of without even resorting to a buyout situation.

I think the AAV will be $4 million or more.

Regardless, I trust our cap team to figure out the best way to sign him and bend the rules.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Can’t wait until the league changes the LTIR rules to eff us over on this one

Worse comes to worst, he gets bought out.

If they sign him to an 8 yr contract and try to put him on LTIR in the 2026, I hope the NHL says no way.

Of course you do.

Max he can sign for is 7 years. Why is that stupid?

If he were to retire, his cap hit is gone since he’s under 35.

Isn't it 8 now that he's technically a Leaf for two days?

 

[Nineteen67]

He's going to be 35, being under 35 helps contractually. I am ok with Tanev if he is the second best Dman we sign this off-season which is why I want a lower AAV.

He was pretty important for Dallas this year, there was even Conn Smythe talk if they won the cup. I know he is aging and declining, again low AAV by long term.

He needs to be the 3rd or 4th best D they acquire over the next 12-18 months. By then he’ll just be in the way.

 

[Sypher04]

What are the rules around frontloading? I thought it couldn't be too heavily frontloaded.

Contract Variability | Puckpedia

There are two sets of rules for contract variability (how much the contract varies year to year) based on if the contract is front-loaded or back-loaded. Front-loaded deals are defined as: -Total player compensation in first half of contract divided by # of years in first half of contract (if...

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Front-Loaded Contract Variability

-The difference between compensation in any year and the year immediately before or after cannot exceed 25% of compensation in Year 1 of the contract

-Compensation in any year cannot be less than 60% of the highest compensation year