Proposal: Tor-ana

Willy Styles

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No, thanks. Rather have Lindholm.

If the contract is a problem and there gonna trade him that's top value you'll get. I could understand if you want more of a one for one, rather than quality for quantity . But that's top value for
quantity and probably makes ANA a better team
 

Exit Dose

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If the contract is a problem and there gonna trade him that's top value you'll get. I could understand if you want more of a one for one, rather than quality for quantity . But that's top value for
quantity and probably makes ANA a better team

Well, thanks for stopping by to let us know, Bob.
 

dubplatepressure

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As a leaf fan I don't think we shouldn't be trading 1sts, period. Would rather trade JVR @ 2m for another 1st and a very good prospect.
 

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Maple Leafs get Lindholm and that 1st becomes less valuable. JVR is UFA after 2 seasons. Nope we ain't trading Lindholm like this.
 

Man Bear Pig

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Maple Leafs get Lindholm and that 1st becomes less valuable. JVR is UFA after 2 seasons. Nope we ain't trading Lindholm like this.

I think you're overestimating the Leafs. Even with him, they're still a bottom team. The Leafs would be stupid to deal that pick prior to knowing where it'll be in the draft bevause there's a good chance it's in the bottom 5.
 

yideboit

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Haha I see zero chance of Anaheim getting near this kind of value let alone turning this down. With their conundrum on d right now (albeit a somewhat envious one in terms of so many good players it creates a logjam) they won't reach that type of value and if they genuinely think he's worth a package greater than a 50+ point power forward lw, a top 10-15 pick (possibly top 5 even?) a second rounder and a decent prospect then they need to reevaluate priorities
 

ultron*

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Nope. You dont get a player like Lindholm w/o giving up 1 of the big 3

Matthews is much more valuable. I could see an argument for Nylander or Marner though.

Anyways, Leafs shouldn't trade first rounders IMO. Let's just stick with the plan and see where we end up.
 

dracom

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I think you're overestimating the Leafs. Even with him, they're still a bottom team. The Leafs would be stupid to deal that pick prior to knowing where it'll be in the draft bevause there's a good chance it's in the bottom 5.

I'm curious how does adding Lindholm keep the Leafs a bottom 5 team? You add Lindholm and either put him with Rielly or Gardiner, then that top 4 becomes one of the best if not the best in the league. Bottom 6 isn't the worst either. You lose JVR, sure, but with Mathews, Nylander, Marner (who some Leafs fans seem to think he's already the next Gretzky), and the rest of the forward core isn't too bad (even without JVR).
 

Man Bear Pig

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I'm curious how does adding Lindholm keep the Leafs a bottom 5 team? You add Lindholm and either put him with Rielly or Gardiner, then that top 4 becomes one of the best if not the best in the league. Bottom 6 isn't the worst either. You lose JVR, sure, but with Mathews, Nylander, Marner (who some Leafs fans seem to think he's already the next Gretzky), and the rest of the forward core isn't too bad (even without JVR).

You're giving a bunch of rookies far too much credit here. The Leafs are rolling out a roster full of inexperienced players. I don't see how people can realistically think by adding one good D can somehow vault them up in the standings. It certainly would be a better team with Lindholm but this is a roster that's going to see alot of growing pains over the season. Lindholm alone isn't enough to keep this team from another high pick.
 

dracom

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You're giving a bunch of rookies far too much credit here. The Leafs are rolling out a roster full of inexperienced players. I don't see how people can realistically think by adding one good D can somehow vault them up in the standings. It certainly would be a better team with Lindholm but this is a roster that's going to see alot of growing pains over the season. Lindholm alone isn't enough to keep this team from another high pick.

Well based off how Leafs fans on here talk about some of their younger players as if they are already high quality NHLers who have top 6 potential, I guess I'm not the only one who gives them too much credit.

And adding a good player like Lindholm will help the team. Won't make them cup contenders, but they wouldn't be a bottom 5 team. Which is were the value of 1st round picks come from, but when you're adding Lindholm, those 1sts just won't be that valuable.
 

xxreact9

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If the contract is a problem and there gonna trade him that's top value you'll get. I could understand if you want more of a one for one, rather than quality for quantity . But that's top value for
quantity and probably makes ANA a better team

In absolutely no remote utter sense does trading their #1 defenseman and #1 overall player of the future for futures and JVR "make them a better team".

It makes them a significantly worse team. It makes them a lot worse in both the present and the future.

What an awful thing to consider
 

Willy Styles

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In absolutely no remote utter sense does trading their #1 defenseman and #1 overall player of the future for futures and JVR "make them a better team".

It makes them a significantly worse team. It makes them a lot worse in both the present and the future.

What an awful thing to consider

As far as I know Lindholm isn't on the roster right now and I started my post off by saying if the context is a problem....
 

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