Top and bottom 15 Dman who have played at least 50 minutes 5on5 in relative xGF% for October

[Osprey]

I like how Kyle Burroughs is 7th in the league when he's the 8th D-man on his own team.

 

[Machinehead]

One of the top 15 defenseman in the NHL (according to this thread) is being scratched tonight and it seems right. (Justin Barron)

So maybe we are all collectively clueless, or maybe this advanced stats means shit?

Honestly, I don't know anything about Justin Barron, so I won't draw any conclusions on that, but it's more likely that we're all collectively clueless.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

Is this raw or GSVA adjusted? Game score adjusting affects expected goals more than most other stats, teams up two or more goals have significantly higher chances for GF and GA due to the opponent needing to take risks to catch back up.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

It shows how useless this stat is that JBD is the 2nd best. He's been very good for Ottawa, but he's a bottom pairing dman, Sanderson, Chabot, and Jensen have all been far better so far, which is to be expected.

 

[bossram]

You know what, you’re right. I withdraw all prior criticism of this metric, which I suddenly realize is very accurate at determining who plays the best hockey.

It's funny, you continue to show you don't actually understand this metric.

This chart you posted isn't the same metric from OP's post.

Is this raw or GSVA adjusted? Game score adjusting affects expected goals more than most other stats, teams up two or more goals have significantly higher chances for GF and GA due to the opponent needing to take risks to catch back up.

I think you mean score adjusted? Based on the outputs, I think OP did not choose a score-adjusted filter.

 

[kerrabria]

xGF%rel has to be the most preposterous, convoluted, and context-less stat that is regularly used to evaluate and compare players.

 

[tarheelhockey]

It's funny, you continue to show you don't actually understand this metric.

This chart you posted isn't the same metric from OP's post.

It was a joke. Lighten up, Francis.

 

[DJJones]

Gotta love stats that reward players for having shitty teammates

 

[bossram]

It was a joke. Lighten up, Francis.

lol, I'm sure it was bud

 

[tarheelhockey]

lol, I'm sure it was bud

What else did it look like, an argumentative essay? Holy smokes man, actually lighten up. Stress is bad for you.

 

[NikolaTesla]

Surprised to see Nemec this low.

 

[bossram]

What else did it look like, an argumentative essay? Holy smokes man, actually lighten up. Stress is bad for you.

you're screaming "relax" at me and I'm the one who's apparently stressed lmao

 

[tarheelhockey]

you're screaming "relax" at me and I'm the one who's apparently stressed lmao

 

[Golden_Jet]

It's funny, you continue to show you don't actually understand this metric.

This chart you posted isn't the same metric from OP's post.

Went right over head

 

[SnowblindNYR]

You know what, you’re right. I withdraw all prior criticism of this metric, which I suddenly realize is very accurate at determining who plays the best hockey.

Regression for the Jets imminent?

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Not a single Penguin in the bottom 15 is surprising.

Because they all suck but Pettersson in the top 15 makes sense. He's been the the best dman on the Pens for a few years now.

 

[dgibb10]

Regression for the Jets imminent?

Hellebuyuck gonna hellebuyuck, at least in the regular season.

But their PP likely comes down (although unrelated to this chart)

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Hellebuyuck gonna hellebuyuck, at least in the regular season.

But their PP likely comes down (although unrelated to this chart)

This chart shows they're middling offensively but have #1 offense in the league I believe. The Rangers are awful defensively but are #1 in goals against. But I trust Igor to embellish our defensive capabilities than a Jets roster without many true superstars to embellish their offensive capabilities long term.

 

[dgibb10]

This chart shows they're middling offensively but have #1 offense in the league I believe. The Rangers are awful defensively but are #1 in goals against. But I trust Igor to embellish our defensive capabilities than a Jets roster without many true superstars to embellish their offensive capabilities long term.

Their 5v5 offense should come down a decent amount, but it's not ridiculously overperforming to the extent of say vegas so far.

That PP however is likely to be cut in half or so (about 18 goals/60 there on 8 expected), from the ridiculous 44% it's at rn.

Igor Shesterkin is in playoff form early this year, like what the f*** is this. Free him

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Their 5v5 offense should come down a decent amount, but it's not ridiculously overperforming to the extent of say vegas so far.

That PP however is likely to be cut in half or so (about 18 goals/60 there on 8 expected), from the ridiculous 44% it's at rn.

Igor Shesterkin is in playoff form early this year, like what the f*** is this. Free himView attachment 926633

It's pay me bitches.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Not a single Penguin in the bottom 15 is surprising.

My first thought as well.

If we took an average of defensemen I gotta think we are bottom 5

 

[dgibb10]

It's pay me bitches.

He is so ridiculously good.

Thankfully the team in front of him has let him down so tremendously in the playoffs I can still use this to troll him for the forseeable future

 

[SnowblindNYR]

He is so ridiculously good.

Thankfully the team in front of him has let him down so tremendously in the playoffs I can still use this to troll him for the forseeable futureView attachment 926635

To be fair fans of teams that never won the Stanley Cup on this board have the same take. I actually think for a professional athlete it's a more appropriate mindset. Other than generating wealth for your family that should be the #1 goal. But as fans we should be able to see context. Rangers weren't deserving of it last year but they were still the Presidents' Trophy winners and in the final 4. If you're only happy as a fan when you win you'll be miserable most of your life.

 

[dgibb10]

To be fair fans of teams that never won the Stanley Cup on this board have the same take. I actually think for a professional athlete it's a more appropriate mindset. Other than generating wealth for your family that should be the #1 goal. But as fans we should be able to see context. Rangers weren't deserving of it last year but they were still the Presidents' Trophy winners and in the final 4. If you're only happy as a fan when you win you'll be miserable most of your life.

If you drive yourself insane enough you can make a career out of going insane every time any one of your favourite teams loses (they play a combined 350 times a year +postseasons)