Top 5 Lines.

[BertMcDrai]

The Avs top line is pure fire

Lehkonen - Mack - Necas

Kucherov line has by far the best xGF%.

 

[Ncit3]

MacKinnon on the list 3 times lol

Ultimate play driver

 

[ScottyMascotty]

 

[BertMcDrai]

Here xGF% for reference as mentioned before.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Minimum of 70 minutes as Necas has recently arrived in Colorado.

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Fun stuff. I feel like this topic gets beaten to death every year but why do the Oilers continue to stack top-line minutes for McD and Drai in the regular season, it really doesn't make any sense.

 

[LevelingSolo]

Greening-Smith-Neil

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Panarin line? Also, does Drouin even play with MacKinnon? Game I watched vs EDM on Friday he wasn’t

The Panarin line, Panarin included has been trash this year. They don't even play together anymore.

 

[Toby91ca]

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Here xGF% for reference as mentioned before.

I’d be curious if I’m totally out on an island on my own or if there are others that pretty much ignore references to xGF% and other adv stats. I really don’t care what a stat says about “expected”, more interested in what you actually produce goals. I feel like I’m allergic to it as some of the stats annoy me probably more than they should

 

[Demandedace]

Minimum of 70 minutes as Necas has recently arrived in Colorado.

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Ahh, yes. The Caps line feared around the league - Mangiapane/Eller/Lapierre

 

[TropicalFruitGirl2]

I’d be curious if I’m totally out on an island on my own or if there are others that pretty much ignore references to xGF% and other adv stats. I really don’t care what a stat says about “expected”, more interested in what you actually produce goals. I feel like I’m allergic to it as some of the stats annoy me probably more than they should

I'm not a huge advanced stat person, but I do acknowledge that they can be useful.
Will agree with you that what players actually do or don't do is much more important than the 'expected' thing.

Also, stats that measure when a player is doing something way above, or way below, people tend to say they aren't as good (if way above), or not as bad (when way below).
Sure, things even out over time, but maybe, just maybe, that player is having a career year, and maybe he has another next year too, before returning to the pedestrian stuff he always had on year 3.

But the bottom line is, he is lights out NOW, and what he does on the ice shows it...."expected" stats be damned.

If taken within context, and case by case, adv stats are very useful...as the be all, end all in measuring. Nope.

As for the lines, homer pick, but Point flanked by Kucherov and Guentzel has to be up there with the very best in the league.

 

[qc14]

Protas-PLD-Whoever

 

[yeaher]

Minimum of 70 minutes as Necas has recently arrived in Colorado.

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Odd, imagine if they put MacKinnon-MacKinnon-MacKinnon on a line.

 

[Reality Czech]

Am I the only one that is starting to hate expected goals for, expected goals saved, etc.

Like it’s a nice additional stat to provide context, and a window into maybe sustainability or puck luck - but god damn, how is it the end all be all?

How about - ya know, we look at actual goals or points scores when looking at forwards. Or actual save percentage?

I actually love the concept of expected stats, hate its usage or how people defer to it as THE metric.

Anyways, rant mode over.

Back to topic - I think it’s to early and too small a sample soze to include MacKinnon and necas line in top 5 forward lines going into the break.

100% agree with you. These advanced stats are getting a little out of hand.