Top 5 best GMs currently

[HockeyVirus]

There's certainly more to building a team than you seem to realize. It's about building the right culture and setting up the cap long term, as well as acquiring talent. You wouldn't know that that looks like.

He hasn't proven to have done any of those things the team can't get out of the basement. Pretty rich though to chirp about talent and culture to a team that is in the playoffs every season

 

[CanadienShark]

He hasn't proven to have done any of those things the team can't get out of the basement. Pretty rich though to chirp about talent and culture to a team that is in the playoffs every season

As I literally just said, let's see how things look this season, because this is the season to prove it for Hughes (after the moves this summer). I expect a similar step for the Sharks by next year.

 

[HockeyVirus]

As I literally just said, let's see how things look this season, because this is the season to prove it for Hughes (after the moves this summer). I expect a similar step for the Sharks by next year.

Sure anything is possible I guess. That doesn't justify him being in the top 5 GM's for doing nothing but losing

 

[CanadienShark]

Sure anything is possible I guess. That doesn't justify him being in the top 5 GM's for doing nothing but losing

I see that you neglected to read my previous post.

 

[SSCBLUEJET]

Big Block Chevy has to be on this list.

 

[HockeyVirus]

I see that you neglected to read my previous post.

You are claiming he has built some amazing culture and collecting all these amazing players. You also said you were biased.

I am saying he hasn't proven to do any of those things. Laughable to put him as a top 5 GM

 

[CanadienShark]

You are claiming he has built some amazing culture and collecting all these amazing players. You also said you were biased.

I am saying he hasn't proven to do any of those things. Laughable to put him as a top 5 GM

You know what you can do? Share your opinion instead of arguing with mine. I'm sure it will be... Something. Like I said, let's see how this season goes in particular as a reflection on what Hughes has done.

 

[strattonius]

The transformative change in culture, standards and competency from Jim Benning to Patrik Alvin was very eye opening for Canuck fans. There's a few lemons with us but you'll probably see most Canuck fans want to mention Patrik Alvin here. Not entirely different with Habs fans and their satisfaction with Kent Hughes.

 

[bearcountry17]

There's certainly more to building a team than you seem to realize. It's about building the right culture and setting up the cap long term, as well as acquiring talent. You wouldn't know that that looks like.

Nothing says building the right culture like bringing in a known locker room cancer like Laine.

 

[CanadienShark]

Nothing says building the right culture like bringing in a known locker room cancer like Laine.

Known locker room cancer? All evidence including quotes from former teammates say that's a complete lie/fabrication on your end.

 

[bearcountry17]

Known locker room cancer? All evidence including quotes from former teammates say that's a complete lie/fabrication on your end.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/columbus-blue-jackets/latest-news/were-players-who-spoke-out-against-patrik-laine-and-elvis-merz%C4%BCikins-traded-to-protect-them

 

[CanadienShark]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/columbus-blue-jackets/latest-news/were-players-who-spoke-out-against-patrik-laine-and-elvis-merz%C4%BCikins-traded-to-protect-them

It appears you didn't even read the article you're citing.

 

[bearcountry17]

It appears you didn't even read the article you're citing.

The article that states that the leadership group of the CBJs said that the best way to improve the lockeroom was to remove Laine from it?

There's a reason why Montreal got assets to take him.

 

[JPT]

Not one person has chevy on their list. That’s crazy to me. He has star prospects, players and even a coach wanting out left right and center and here’s Chevy turning lemons into lemonade.

Chevy is playing beagm on all star mode, while brisebois and zito are playing on easy mode

Shit if he's playing BeAGM at all in the NHL he should be fired.

 

[Craig Ludwig]

Nope, not in my opinion.

Brisebois had as much fingerprints on those cup winning teams as Yzerman did.
He has been an AGM with Tampa since 2010.
He hired Jon Cooper for Syracuse and before being promoted to GM in 2018 he had assisted in all aspects of player personnel decisions, analytics, player development, contract preparation and negotiation, as well as salary arbitration for the Lightning and Syracuse

They do not win without the fairly bold moves he made after becoming GM either.

Fair Point, he did help but ultimately it was Yzerman who oversaw all major moves right until they won the Cup. One of Brisebois' first major moves was trading away JT Miller for picks, and acquiring 4th liners and 6th dmen for 1st round picks (Jeannot, Savard, Maroon), I wouldn't say those moves were that of a top 5 GM. But he did make the Hagel move.

Anyway my point is that the nucleus of the Cup teams had Yzerman written all over them, I don't think Brisebois deserves half the credit for that. Let's see what he does to start rebuilding the Bolts now that they are aging out.

 

[eviohh26]

The transformative change in culture, standards and competency from Jim Benning to Patrik Alvin was very eye opening for Canuck fans. There's a few lemons with us but you'll probably see most Canuck fans want to mention Patrik Alvin here. Not entirely different with Habs fans and their satisfaction with Kent Hughes.

Neither has done enough to get top 5. Alvin can get there. Just not yet.

 

[Three On Zero]

What have they proven they can do but put together a losing team? Anyone can be bad and draft players

Looks like a list of GMs you wouldn’t want.

Hughes and Grier are both bottom 10 until they can prove they can turn a team around.

Allvin is a middling GM right now, the next couple years are huge for him.

 

[HockeyVirus]

You know what you can do? Share your opinion instead of arguing with mine. I'm sure it will be... Something. Like I said, let's see how this season goes in particular as a reflection on what Hughes has done.

Sure. No order:

Nill, Fitsgerald, McCrimmon, Trotz, Sakic (I think it is really him still running the team)

 

[Three On Zero]

Sure. No order:

Nill, Fitsgerald, McCrimmon, Trotz, Sakic (I think it is really him still running the team)

Needs more Zito

 

[HockeyVirus]

Needs more Zito

He is easily in my bottom 5

 

[Three On Zero]

He is easily in my bottom 5

What? How?

He took Calgary behind the woodshed and won a presidents trophy and Cup recently. Is it a Toronto thing?

 

[Xirik]

Right now Fitz is probably in the middle of the ranking. He's a lot like Hughes and Grier but he did put together a team that made the playoffs and after a rough last season he addressed everything and plugged all the holes in the ship. This season will show if the ship sails or sinks.

In his four years of being a GM the only mistakes I can think of the Alexander Holtz pick and Chase Stillman pick as mistakes. Overall not bad.


Current top five GMs are

Sweeney (Boston)
Nill (Dallas)
Zito (Florida)
McCrimmon (Vegas)
Cheveldayoff (Winnipeg)

 

[Jared Dunn]

Not one person has chevy on their list. That’s crazy to me. He has star prospects, players and even a coach wanting out left right and center and here’s Chevy turning lemons into lemonade.

Chevy is playing beagm on all star mode, while brisebois and zito are playing on easy mode

He also waited out Winnipeg's best cup window without making significant moves outside of the failed addition of Kevin Hayes, I think he's always been too tentative

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Zito is the only good GM in the NHl

 

[Jared Dunn]

T

The transformative change in culture, standards and competency from Jim Benning to Patrik Alvin was very eye opening for Canuck fans. There's a few lemons with us but you'll probably see most Canuck fans want to mention Patrik Alvin here. Not entirely different with Habs fans and their satisfaction with Kent Hughes.

I have a hard time putting guys like Allvin or McFarland in these lists because I think they have Presidents who are HEAVILY involved in hockey ops and their influence goes a really long way