Professor What
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I'm curious: How many lists do we have now, and are we looking at an extension of time, or are we still wrapping up this weekend?
Top-200 Hockey Players of All-Time - Preliminary Discussion Thread
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Michael Farkas
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Just to say the words officially, I will not be submitting a list formally. I will participate though.
seventieslord
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Michael Farkas
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Eh, real tight window this year for scouting/coaching and all and it's just hitting right now or about to...in a normal hockey year, I wouldn't have had nearly as much of a problem...
Plus, I only built the flimsy beginnings of a watchlist...it's not fair to do it half assed...
Plus, I only built the flimsy beginnings of a watchlist...it's not fair to do it half assed...
Dennis Bonvie
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Professor What
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Make sure you put them in an order that makes sense to you, figure out the details afterwards. That's quite a bit what we'll all end up doing.
quoipourquoi
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buffalowing88
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Ugh. I was not with it when I posted that. Fever dreams or something haha. Please ignore my odd tangents on Martin St. Louis. Not my finest moment.
TheDevilMadeMe
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Honestly, there are some posters who just vastly overrate Bure for various reasons.
Re: an earlier response to me - I don't really care about Bure vs Gordie Drillon. I will rank them quite close to each other (Drillon with better stats but more help from his center).
But I will definitely have Bure closer to Kariya than to Lindros.
Lindros is a fringe top 100 player, so Bure (like Kariya) has to be quite a bit behind him, right?
TheDevilMadeMe
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And that's not really a bad thing.
I'd rather get MORE opinions in Round 1. If anyone does anything "weird," the screeners are there to ask if it's intentional.
Round 2 is where precision matters.
BenchBrawl
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I'll send a list within the week-end, if that's allright with @quoipourquoi
I know I had time, but wasn't sure if I wanted to participate, so I procrastinated.
I know I had time, but wasn't sure if I wanted to participate, so I procrastinated.
seventieslord
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TheDevilMadeMe
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I have a halfway decent list of 220 players ready to go, but I (thankfully) am unexpectedly busy at work this week and would prefer to have just a few days to tweak it.
ted2019
History of Hockey
Maybe we should let everyone have until Christmas to submit their lists? Would rather see more lists and more variety, which makes this more fun and a better testament on how this section rates various players.
sr edler
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Was this footage shot with 35mm film?
It's a bit disingenuous to imply that there's only valid/reasonable assessment of Bure & overrating. You have half the main board claiming every goal he ever scored was through lazy cherry picking, which I know you know isn't true.
K Fleur
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That’s pretty great picture quality for 90’s highlights.
Dennis Bonvie
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Bure's international goal scoring feats always seem to be forgotten.
World Juniors - 27 goals in 21 games
Olympics - 11 goals in 12 games
World Championships - 4 goals in 6 games
quoipourquoi
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We’ll start screening the lists we have, but honestly, take your time if you need it. Round 2 is targeted for January 4th, so as long as I have everything by New Year’s (ish), I shouldn’t have a problem building the aggregate list in Excel the weekend before Round 2.
So... soft deadline today, hard deadline December 31.
So... soft deadline today, hard deadline December 31.
quoipourquoi
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If you want to submit the 60/60/60/40 positional lists in alternating order, I can bribe @Johnny Engine to look the other way...
TheDevilMadeMe
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Are you sure you know what the word "disingenuous" means? Because I could argue that it's "disingenuous" to rate Bure significantly higher than other offensively oriented wingers with similar numbers just because he played for one's favorite team...
But maybe it's best not to get personal....
Batis
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Michael Farkas
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tarheelhockey
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I have a list almost ready to go. As usual it feels like trash that I will regret later.
I second this. There's only so much information that one person can have in their head at a given time. If someone ends up voting exactly the same way in Round 2 as they did in Round 1, I'm suspicious that they haven't really paid attention to the discussion threads.
The main point of Round 1 is simply to set the agenda for Round 2 discussions. That's where the real work happens. Not to say the initial lists should be shabby, but there are declining returns in spending a lot of time on them.
I second this. There's only so much information that one person can have in their head at a given time. If someone ends up voting exactly the same way in Round 2 as they did in Round 1, I'm suspicious that they haven't really paid attention to the discussion threads.
The main point of Round 1 is simply to set the agenda for Round 2 discussions. That's where the real work happens. Not to say the initial lists should be shabby, but there are declining returns in spending a lot of time on them.
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