To me this sounds like the standard character assassination agenda that follows after a star gets traded. Boston does it too. I'll bet two cents that PK will be loved by the fans, the community and the teammates in Nashville, just like Seguin in Dallas.
Exactly. All this "inside info" is nothing new that hasn't be regurgitated before in some manner or fashion. We all knew that every one on the team didn't see eye to eye with Subban, but then again, he was still close with many players on the team. Was he pissed he didn't get the C? Maybe, but don't tell me Pacioretty is this team's leader.
This is all such a crock of s***. We're a classy organization? When was the last time class won us anything or got us a to sign a player? Was it classy how we dealt with Cammalleri, or that our GM and coach continue to lie to through their teeth about our players and our team? Is it classy how our coach and GM play favorites or the way our rookies/prospects are being (mis)handled?
And this line pisses me off:
"PK supposedly said something to the effect of "he'll win the Norris, i mean look who he plays with, look who i play with". ******"
He supposedly said something to the effect of? So he may or may not have said something that was or wasn't insulting to the team? God damn, is Marinaro just spewing pure garbage at this point? What kind of journalism is this?
Agree with these posts. And this will the longer it went since the trade be taken as truths, when it´s pure speculation. Some in this thread are already swallowing it whole.
And for starters, that people even try to belittle an 10 million donation to a children hospital. Of course most people have an agenda with an donation. Be it they would like to feel good for 10 minutes, impress someone, move up in society, and so on... No donation ever is completley selfish. But it´s still a *****ing great thing done! Trying to twist it bad is just silly.
But the things that stands out is trying to turn everything he´s done in to something bad. As an former player in different sports who´s been an part of both great and bad locker rooms 20+ years of my adult years: most of those points could actually as easy be turned to things I´d value in an teammate. Especially if I´m set on winning. Some of the greatest teams I´ve been a part of has had an mix of the kind of mind set Subban has. Not one great team has had the "we´re all friends" mind set.
I mean, the
"it´s not my job to score goals" was an answer after an frustrating loss where Subban had his first goal in 34 games. To me an player being upset when loosing, even if he´s scored an goal, is something I´d value if I´d want to win something. He said
"I couldn’t give a s— about my f—ing first goal in however long. It doesn’t f—ing matter. I’m not a goal-scorer. It’s not my job to score goals.”. More reminds me of, even if a little clumpsy formulated, one of my favourite storys about young Forsberg. Where he came home from an 7-8 loss with MoDo as an little boy about 8-10 years old. He was crying when he said to his mom he lost. His mom asked if he scored any goals. He answered 7. That´s winning mentality if anything. Kudos for Subban not being satisfied with scoring an goal in an loss.
The next day he said this:
"As a group it's our job to create offence." he said. "I couldn't care less if I score the goal or if I set it up. It doesn't matter to me.
"People are going to look at numbers and stats and I expect that. When you're the highest paid player on the team and one of the highest paid players in the league people are going to do that. That's fine with me. But it's important for people to know that all I care about is winning."
Love it! Sign me up for having him as an leader on my team any day of the week.
And the
i didnt think we did enough as an organization to make the playoffs without Price etc... but we have to be better from the TOP OF THE ORGANIZATION TO THE BOTTOM
That´s what I´d want to hear when you placed 22 in the leauge and didn´t make the PO:s. Doesn´t mather if I´m a fan, teammate or GM of the team! Players that ain´t satisified with not winning is the kind of teammates I´d surround me with.
And the:
PK Subban was the only person who didn't attend the Habs's Christmas party, now i don't know where PK was... . What the *****. Getting team chemistry threw bonding is great. But if it´s not mandatory or someone has an good excuse (even if only
I´d like to spend time with my family, I´ve missed them...) I wouldn´t care a bit.
To me these Subban stories reminds me of some of the greatest team mates I´ve had. Many of them are persons I will never hang out with or even give a call for the rest of my life, because we didn´t match with personal chemistry. But that´s not what building a great team is about. A little bit of fighting, some harsh words in the heat of the moment even in training is also an way of sending an signal that you take every minute serious.
And the
"it was an individual mistake that cost us the game" makes Therrien look as Tremblay 21 years ago. Subban, who at the time led the Canadiens in scoring and is your biggest offensive driving force, tried an risky move when you where down 1 goal 5 minutes in to the 3rd period. Trying to recover he blew a tire. Montreal was already loosing that game. Give Subban credit for trying if anything. That´s the way to handle an risk/reward player.
To me this screams Roy pt.2 for Montreal. Letting an coach/some of the players that can´t handle an big ego win the battle in the locker room. Egos are great if you wanna win. Egos ain´t satisfied with anything but wnining. All great teams, dynastys and so have had this kind of "problem players". It´s when an coach/team/GM/team mates can´t handle them it goes bad.
Weber is an great defenceman. He´ll probably be top 10 for 5 more years at least and an great no2 until his contracts up if he wants to. Montreal will be an more stabil team next season and probably get the great RS record, even if Price ain´t healthy. And Subban has the playing style at the moment that won´t age as good as Webers, so maybe they will retire at the same team despite the 4 years age different. But Subban is the kind of risk/reward player that reminds me of just Roy. Even if maybe some of the young ones here won´t remember Roys bad years/series and just how much he was villified in Montreal, especially early 90´s before the 1993 Cup.
Before next season I´m placing an bet on Subban winning the Norris and I´m gonna add Nashville to the 3-4 teams I´ll place an SC bet on.
I´m not an Montreal fan. And I´m not an Nashville fan. And I´m not an Subban fan boy. But this is crap. And as said. It screams Roy pt.2 Tought Montreal had evolved past the "old boys club" and learned from where that put them 20 years ago when they dealt an ego that supposedley was bigger than the team instead of the coach that couldn´t handle him...
