Value of: Tony DeAngelo's next contract?

[DickSmehlik]

Upcoming RFA currently making $1,000,000.

40 points in 43 games, which is currently a 70 point pace.

Can the Canes afford the raise he is due?

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[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Yeah they can afford him. I'd probably just take him to arbitration if he's not willing to accept a 1-2 m raise ($3 m x 3 maybe?), the short term from an arbitration ruling would be a feature not a bug.

 

[cwede]

don't forget he's making much more, double-payed thanks to NYR buyout
his prior contract had annual Cap Hit of $4.8M

expect he targets similar

 

[Taluss]

He’s doing that damn good? Wow good for him, I haven’t kept track. Too bad he couldn’t fit in NY

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

He’s doing that damn good? Wow good for him, I haven’t kept track. Too bad he couldn’t fit in NY

He's been absolutely phenomenal on the PP. With Aho, Teravainen, Svechnikov and Trocheck, his passing and QBing from the point has been such a key piece of the success.

While Dougie on the PP was more of a shooting threat, Tony's passing ability and really quick decisions with the puck work so well with like minded players like Aho, TT and Svech. Really a treat to watch.

He's been good ES as well. Not bad defensively and good offensively. Having Slavin as his partner probably helps hide some defensive warts. Would much prefer the Canes could get another RHD to pair with Slavin at ES and let Tony excel against weaker competition and on the PP.

He got injured last game though, so fingers crossed it's not serious.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Looking at things pre-playoffs, if it's significantly different than Barrie's $4.5 mil x 3 deal signed just last Summer on the high side, it would be a surprise.

He's in line for the opportunity to play Top 4 minutes on a team that has the potential to go deep, however. His stock could rise.

 

[DJJones]

Yeah they can afford him. I'd probably just take him to arbitration if he's not willing to accept a 1-2 m raise ($3 m x 3 maybe?), the short term from an arbitration ruling would be a feature not a bug.

Why on earth would he even consider 3x3?

Arbitrator would probably give him a 1 year @ 5 mil then he can walk as a UFA.

 

[pld459666]

Qualify him, go to arbitration.

Or

Give him Nino's money and lock him up long term.

Much easier to find 40 point forwards than it is to find 50-60 point defenders.

Glad he's doing well for you.

 

[pld459666]

Why on earth would he even consider 3x3?

Arbitrator would probably give him a 1 year @ 5 mil then he can walk as a UFA.

I think he'd get more than that

Hes a very gifted player offensively.

This will be his 2nd team posting 55+ points.

Hes in limited company

 

[Chayos]

Looking at things pre-playoffs, if it's significantly different than Barrie's $4.5 mil x 3 deal signed just last Summer on the high side, it would be a surprise.

He's in line for the opportunity to play Top 4 minutes on a team that has the potential to go deep, however. His stock could rise.

This would be a good bet if he were older, but given his age and potential I say he will get the 5-6 range on a 3 year.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Qualify him, go to arbitration.

Or

Give him Nino's money and lock him up long term.

Much easier to find 40 point forwards than it is to find 50-60 point defenders.

Glad he's doing well for you.

While I agree with your overall point, you statement on Nino being a 40 point forward is a bit misleading. In the 4 seasons/partial seasons he's been in Carolina, he's averaging 24G, 48P per 82 games. He's currently not the same player he was when he was in NYI, nor the last 2 season's in MINN either.

That said, I suspect the Canes won't be able to / won't want to give Trocheck the type of deal he will likely command. Nino will probably be able to get more elsewhere also so there should be money available to extend Tony.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Its funny that you don't hear anything about DeAngelo being a defensive black hole now that he's no longer Rangers property.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Its funny that you don't hear anything about DeAngelo being a defensive black hole now that he's no longer Rangers property.

That's probably because a lot of Ranger's fans stopped posting about him being a liability defensively.

Seriously though, like I said above, he's either played sheltered 3rd pairing minutes (early on) or with Jaccob Slavin, one of the best defensive defensemen in the league which can hide some some faults.

He's not been bad defensively, but he's not great defensively either. As a team with cup aspirations, I wouldn't want him on our top pairing come playoff time. Rather give him sheltered ES minutes and let him excel there as well as on the PP.

 

[The Burdened]

Gonna make a lot.
not bad for a guy HF swore up and down would never play in the NHL again.
big time oops

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

1 good year still isn't enough to rehab is value across the league to the point he's getting a contract that is consistent with purely his play on the ice. So I think Canes likely keep him on a shorter bridge deal for quite a bit cheaper than market value would be for his play on the ice, but nowhere near as much of a steal as this year. I can see 2-3 years at $4-4.5M. As long as he keeps his head on straight that's still tremendous value for what he offers, but it's not quite as great as the $1M he's getting this season.

 

[Jerkbait]

He’s doing that damn good? Wow good for him, I haven’t kept track. Too bad he couldn’t fit in NY

He has been fantastic. Made losing Hamilton seem like a cakewalk

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Gonna make a lot.
not bad for a guy HF swore up and down would never play in the NHL again.
big time oops

Meh, some people said that, but a lot of people knew he'd get another chance. Nobody took a chance on him last year because they didn't want to take on his salary so soon after the Ranger's suspended him.

 

[pld459666]

While I agree with your overall point, you statement on Nino being a 40 point forward is a bit misleading. In the 4 seasons/partial seasons he's been in Carolina, he's averaging 24G, 48P per 82 games. He's currently not the same player he was when he was in NYI, nor the last 2 season's in MINN either.

That said, I suspect the Canes won't be able to / won't want to give Trocheck the type of deal he will likely command. Nino will probably be able to get more elsewhere also so there should be money available to extend Tony.

took a quick look at his numbers, saw they had fallen off a bit which is not surprising as there are some really good options for PP1 in Carolina.

I like Nino, but you get it.

point is there's an opportunity to re-up TDA.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Think both sides just agree on a one year deal.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

took a quick look at his numbers, saw they had fallen off a bit which is not surprising as there are some really good options for PP1 in Carolina.

I like Nino, but you get it.

point is there's an opportunity to re-up TDA.

Yep. And with the emergence of Jarvis, Nino's mainly now with Staal and Fast on the line that faces the opposing team's toughest competition with the most D-zone starts. Even so, he's got the 2nd most 5v5 goals on Carolina (behind Svechnikov), and 3rd most 5v5 points on Carolina (behind Aho and Svech), so his offense is still there, just not getting 1st PP unit time. This is with his most common 5v5 line-mates as Staal and Fast, and only getting 2nd PP unit time.

Like we both said though, I think re-upping Tony won't likely be an issue as I would be surprised to see Trocheck and Nino both back next year (and won't be surprised if both are not back).

 

[Bluto]

ADA being ADA, he will push for the max money and take the contract that pays him the most.
I am glad he was able to overcome being completely slandered and lied about. Fortunately, the people responsible for it were also fired. I am not looking forward to him scoring some big-time playoff series winning esq goal against the Rangers.

 

[spockBokk]

My opinion, his next contract will come in the $4.5M to 6.5M range, with Barrie and Krug being his closest comps. The Canes will want to keep him close to Barrie and his camp likely close to Krug. I think they’ll find a happy medium ~$4.75-5.5M x 3yrs or so.

 

[jay from jersey]

Many NYR fans were correct when they said he was 1 of the premier PMD in the league, as well as a beast running the pt on the PP.
It’s too bad everything that transpired killed his value, but his skills are certainly still there.
He’s on his best behavior, I think the most any team will give him is 2 years around 7 mill total to make sure he stays on his toes.
Tony will likely take 3.5 per with the rangers still paying him....

 

[NYR425]

1 good year still isn't enough to rehab is value across the league to the point he's getting a contract that is consistent with purely his play on the ice. So I think Canes likely keep him on a shorter bridge deal for quite a bit cheaper than market value would be for his play on the ice, but nowhere near as much of a steal as this year. I can see 2-3 years at $4-4.5M. As long as he keeps his head on straight that's still tremendous value for what he offers, but it's not quite as great as the $1M he's getting this season.

His current contract was a 2 year contract @5 M a year. He signed the contract thru arbitration. No way he takes less then 5M. If he goes to arb he will get more then 5 M. Players don't get paycuts in arb

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I think he put the whole Ranger fiasco behind him, he'll get paid and deservedly so.
I'd bet it's somewhere in the range of 3x5.5