Value of: Tony Deangelo

[LaffyTaffy13]

Kinda surprised he hasnt signed anywhere yet. Right handed dman who is uber talented offensively, has some snarl to his game and all around great locker room guy (only national leaguer who would disagree is georgiev).

If florida moves ekblad have to imagine he signs there to run the PP. dallas was dumb to not sign him instead of Nils. And kinda surprised we havent heard him linked to anaheim who could really use him

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[Hasbro]

> great locker room guy

Knights should bring him into mentor Connely.

 

[Chan790]

Well known great locker room guy. Not really worth even arguing that point.

I do think NHL GM’s dont know him well enough to sign him and think more or less what you posted.

It was his former Rangers teammates (then on the Canes) that vouched for him to the Canes FO as being a great teammate and locker room energy guy. I got the sense that he wasn't the only one that wanted to have it out with Georgiev...he's just the one that got punched in the face for it.

He carries a lot of a bad rap for behavior that happened before he turned 21. I don't agree with his politics, but a lot of professional athletes share those politics. He's matured since then and kept his nose clean, but being a highly-public jerk at 17 tends to follow you into adulthood in a sport where people value "character."

 

[Justicebork]

By accounts, Tony D has matured to the point where not everybody in the locker room hates him. His problems seem to be more rooted in what scientists call "not being an NHL level defender."

 

[MXD]

Not really existent.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Does a team need a hot-headee, short temper dude who looks confused and angry because he's confused

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Kinda surprised he hasnt signed anywhere yet. Right handed dman who is uber talented offensively, has some snarl to his game and all around great locker room guy (only national leaguer who would disagree is georgiev).

If florida moves ekblad have to imagine he signs there to run the PP. dallas was dumb to not sign him instead of Nils. And kinda surprised we havent heard him linked to anaheim who could really use him

lol what

 

[bernmeister]

Kinda surprised he hasnt signed anywhere yet. Right handed dman who is uber talented offensively, has some snarl to his game and all around great locker room guy (only national leaguer who would disagree is georgiev).

If florida moves ekblad have to imagine he signs there to run the PP. dallas was dumb to not sign him instead of Nils. And kinda surprised we havent heard him linked to anaheim who could really use him

not interested
not worth the bs that comes with

 

[Jared Dunn]

DeAngelo as an Ekblad replacement is an interesting place to land

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

It was his former Rangers teammates (then on the Canes) that vouched for him to the Canes FO as being a great teammate and locker room energy guy. I got the sense that he wasn't the only one that wanted to have it out with Georgiev...he's just the one that got punched in the face for it.

He carries a lot of a bad rap for behavior that happened before he turned 21. I don't agree with his politics, but a lot of professional athletes share those politics. He's matured since then and kept his nose clean, but being a highly-public jerk at 17 tends to follow you into adulthood in a sport where people value "character."

Yeah, ita unfortunate but its the truth that hes being more or less blackballed for his personal political views that 90+% of the league shares.

And you nailed it. Georgiev was by far the most hates guy in that room and even remains so today

DeAngelo as an Ekblad replacement is an interesting place to land

Would be a great fit. Bottom pair dman who limits his 5v5 time and then runs an elite point on the pp

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

not interested
not worth the bs that comes with

Thered be no bs that would effect the team imo. Lets be honest, wed ALL take TDA at $800K > Trouba at $8,000,000 as the bottom pair RHD.

Tony remains very close with fox, lindgren and vesey in particular. Hes also best friends with trocheck and they vacation together with their significant others a few times a year

 

[MXD]

Yeah, ita unfortunate but its the truth that hes being more or less blackballed for his personal political views that 90+% of the league shares.

And you nailed it. Georgiev was by far the most hates guy in that room and even remains so today


Would be a great fit. Bottom pair dman who limits his 5v5 time and then runs an elite point on the pp

Thered be no bs that would effect the team imo. Lets be honest, wed ALL take TDA at $800K > Trouba at $8,000,000 as the bottom pair RHD.

Tony remains very close with fox, lindgren and vesey in particular. Hes also best friends with trocheck and they vacation together with their significant others a few times a year

So you're basically suggesting he should get an NHL job based on his politics and on nepotism instead of his hockey play.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

So you're basically suggesting he should get an NHL job based on his politics and on nepotism instead of his hockey play.

Nah, im saying he should get a job based on his on ice abilities and agreeing he likely isnt due to political views.

For example, no sane person is making the case Nils Lundkvist is better than him right?

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

I’d give him a shot on the Panthers at minimum salary

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Kinda surprised he hasnt signed anywhere yet. Right handed dman who is uber talented offensively, has some snarl to his game and all around great locker room guy (only national leaguer who would disagree is georgiev).

If florida moves ekblad have to imagine he signs there to run the PP. dallas was dumb to not sign him instead of Nils. And kinda surprised we havent heard him linked to anaheim who could really use him

What-no mention of him being a lockdown defender?

 

[MXD]

Nah, im saying he should get a job based on his on ice abilities and agreeing he likely isnt due to political views.

For example, no sane person is making the case Nils Lundkvist is better than him right?

I don't know Lundqvist enough to decide on this, but DeAngelo being better than him doesn't magically make DeAngelo something else than a replacement-level defender (or a specialist), and one with almost certainly no upside, considering he'll be 29 by the beginning of 24-25.

Meawhile, Nils Lundqvist is 23 years old and is already under contract.

I think TDA will get an offer (probably a min salary one), but really, PTO should be the way to go for specialists/replacement-level players aged 29.

 

[Curufinwe]

Chuck Fletcher traded 3 picks for him just two years ago

 

[Sheppy]

"great locker room guy"

Yikes.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

"great locker room guy"

Yikes.

Just a fact, not an opinion.

Anyway, reality is tda was not in the rangers long term plans once Fox forced his way to NYR. If Fox never forces his way to NYR, tony would probably be putting up 60-70 point seasons running the powerplay and likely making $6-7mm/yr on a long term deal.

Once fox forced his way to nyr tda immediately became expendable and the politics stuff was just an easy excuse to get rid of him. You werent gonna have fox and trouba making $9.5 and $8 and then tda on your bottom pair near $5 when his single greatest asset wasnt gonna be utilized with fox running the pp. tda remains one of the best power play qb’s in the sport

 

[Canovin]

Just a fact, not an opinion.

Anyway, reality is tda was not in the rangers long term plans once Fox forced his way to NYR. If Fox never forces his way to NYR, tony would probably be putting up 60-70 point seasons running the powerplay and likely making $6-7mm/yr on a long term deal.

Once fox forced his way to nyr tda immediately became expendable and the politics stuff was just an easy excuse to get rid of him. You werent gonna have fox and trouba making $9.5 and $8 and then tda on your bottom pair near $5 when his single greatest asset wasnt gonna be utilized with fox running the pp. tda remains one of the best power play qb’s in the sport

NYR can still have Fox at 9.5M, Trouba at 8M and D'angelo at league minimum

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

NYR can still have Fox at 9.5M, Trouba at 8M and D'angelo at league minimum

Id prefer a right side next year of Fox at $9.5, Schneider at $2.2 and tda at $800K rather than trouba at $8mill but its just not realistic due to the burned bridge

 

[Rich Nixon]

This is a goofy thread.

1. The "politics" that caused him problems early in his career were making *bigoted comments on multiple occasions in junior.

2. That did not stop him from getting multiple NHL jobs and being an alright offensive defenseman. He can score, but he's not scoring 60-70 points on any planet.

3. He's one of the dumbest players in the NHL when it comes to actually playing defense. The way he loses players and misses reads in his own end, I'm convinced he can't count to 5.

4. He just seems like a weird dude that wears out his welcome. Georgiev punched him and he's the one who got the boot for that incident, which should tell you something. I am also like 95% sure he is the guy behind that strange "nyrfan" Twitter burner.

He'll get his shot somewhere for cheap, most likely. He hasn't done anything egregiously offensive in public lately and he provides a little pop offensively. But these are the reasons he is where he is now.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

This is a goofy thread.

1. The "politics" that caused him problems early in his career were making racist comments.

2. That did not stop him from getting multiple NHL jobs and being an alright offensive defenseman. He can score, but he's not scoring 60-70 points on any planet.

3. He's one of the dumbest players in the NHL when it comes to actually playing defense. The way he loses players and misses reads in his own end, I'm convinced he can't count to 5.

He'll get his shot somewhere for cheap, most likely. He hasn't done anything egregiously offensive in public lately and he provides a little pop offensively. But these are the reasons he is where he is now.

He had 53 points in 68 games his 2019-2020 season which is a 64 point pace over 82 fyi.

And lets be real here, being the point of a pp consisting of panarin, trocheck, zibanejad and kreider aint hard to post 60 points.

Anyway, his ideal fit is a team that needs a pp qb and a bottom pair dman. Meaning he could play limited 5v5 (maybe just 6-8 mins a night 5v5) where he has struggled in his own end and then get 5-6 minutes a night in the PP.

If utilized property hes an asset for teams and extremely valuable if he signs for $1mm or less

 

[Jared Dunn]

Would be a great fit. Bottom pair dman who limits his 5v5 time and then runs an elite point on the pp

Do you know what role Ekblad fills on the Panthers? Certainly not PP specialist
If I want a bottom pairing PP specialist I'd be shooting for Barrie or Boqvist and not have to deal with the shit storm that is Tony D

 

[bernmeister]

Thered be no bs that would effect the team imo. Lets be honest, wed ALL take TDA at $800K > Trouba at $8,000,000 as the bottom pair RHD.

Tony remains very close with fox, lindgren and vesey in particular. Hes also best friends with trocheck and they vacation together with their significant others a few times a year

nope