Rumor: Tony DeAngelo being traded back to Carolina next month but he also could not be.

[Striiker]

Didn’t Briere deny the deal existed to the media, just for the Canes to then confirm it immediately after?

Funny that this is the outcome after that.

Just another disaster created by Fletcher.

 

[DancingPanther]

Charlie's reporting was that Tulsky didn't even get an interview because they thought Tortorella would run right over him.

I'm so sorry to have to tell you this.

I have them all on ignore but haven't people been telling us that we're all blowing the whole Tortorella thing out of proportion?

 

[Beef Invictus]

I have them all on ignore but haven't people been telling us that we're all blowing the whole Tortorella thing out of proportion?

I remember being ripped for being negative on Tortorella when he was hired, what with opposing his hire for many years. And he's spent all of his time showing that if anything, I was being too optimistic.

 

[BernieParent]

The league isn’t involved until there’s a trade call. They may have tried to do one and were told the deal was illegal, but then that means the trade wasn’t delayed. It ceased to exist. Nothing is pending.

Commenting on it publicly was frankly weird because by rule it cannot exist. The only thing you can do is a handshake agreement to revisit it on X date.

Thanks, Jojo. You continue to be a font of knowledge for me.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Thanks, Jojo. You continue to be a font of knowledge for me.

Please apologize to everyone you’ve ever met for me.

 

[Angry Hockey Dad]

I’m officially un-buckled

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I don’t think you can fault Briere if this trade falls thru. They have a deal in place but the league said wait until July 9. July 9 rolls around and suddenly they are looking to bring EK aboard. From my pov Carolina is acting in bad faith if they pull the plug on it:

 

[DancingPanther]

I don’t think you can fault Briere if this trade falls thru. They have a deal in place but the league said wait until July 9. July 9 rolls around and suddenly they are looking to bring EK aboard. From my pov Carolina is acting in bad faith if they pull the plug on it:

Did the league REALLYYYYY hold it up though? Did they really

 

[ajgoal]

I don’t think you can fault Briere if this trade falls thru. They have a deal in place but the league said wait until July 9. July 9 rolls around and suddenly they are looking to bring EK aboard. From my pov Carolina is acting in bad faith if they pull the plug on it:

The only thing I fault Briere on here is not knowing that limitation, as the CBA language is explicit. Having to wait until now would have happened regardless.

It's also possible that the teams approached the League to ask if the requirement could be waived as a precursor to the trade, as there's really no functional difference between it happening pre-draft or now. Carolina's past last year's cap, they don't have to be compliant for the league year that his contract would have been "illegally acquired" for. We know this happened. We just don't know exactly who initiated it, if it was the teams or the league saying the trade was illegal. If the teams asked first, there's really no fault to hand Briere as the request was sensible, if unlikely to be granted.

And I'm guessing the leaks are from Jones.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

The only thing I fault Briere on here is not knowing that limitation, as the CBA language is explicit. Having to wait until now would have happened regardless.

It's also possible that the teams approached the League to ask if the requirement could be waived as a precursor to the trade, as there's really no functional difference between it happening pre-draft or now. Carolina's past last year's cap, they don't have to be compliant for the league year that his contract would have been "illegally acquired" for. We know this happened. We just don't know exactly who initiated it, if it was the teams or the league saying the trade was illegal. If the teams asked first, there's really no fault to hand Briere as the request was sensible, if unlikely to be granted.

And I'm guessing the leaks are from Jones.

That is a good point. I do wonder why they just couldn’t push the trade through July 1 when the NHL calendar switched to 23-24. But I do agree it was likely Jones who ran his mouth

 

[BiggE]

Shocking that this trade has been completed.

Then again,
Doofus who can’t keep his mouth shut is team president
An out of touch, arrogant, childish asshole is head coach
An inexperienced gm is caught between the 2 aforementioned imbeciles
And, after seeing how things have gone with Ellis, Atkinson and Couts, I’m pretty sure the medical staff is under the charge of doctors Frankenstein and Mengele.

Yeah, this should end well.

 

[ProcessThis]

I don’t think you can fault Briere if this trade falls thru. They have a deal in place but the league said wait until July 9. July 9 rolls around and suddenly they are looking to bring EK aboard. From my pov Carolina is acting in bad faith if they pull the plug on it:

Yeah, there's no faulting Briere. Fletcher brought DeAngelo here knowing the situation. Tony D is blacklisted by several teams around the league, most teams don't have cap space and most teams don't view DeAngelo as a fit because he's not good in his own zone. I don't think Carolina is acting in bad faith though, the rules are the rules, and a lot of things happened during that month long holding pattern.

 

[deadhead]

I doubt Waddell will back out. It's a bad look to renege on a handshake agreement using a technicality.
Now if Waddell needs cap room to pull off a Karlsson deal, that might expand the trade.

 

[Lempo]

The league isn’t involved until there’s a trade call. They may have tried to do one and were told the deal was illegal, but then that means the trade wasn’t delayed. It ceased to exist. Nothing is pending.

Commenting on it publicly was frankly weird because by rule it cannot exist. The only thing you can do is a handshake agreement to revisit it on X date.

My guesswork understanding it that the rumor got out that PHI is trading TDA to CAR and at that point the league intervened the process before anything official got done, and there was a period of confusion whether such a trade can be allowed until a meeting in Nashville where the league informed that it can't be done until Jul 9th. The word kind of got out.

Signing TDA the last time around caused a but turmoil among CAR fandom so not saying anything probably wasn't an option for Waddell in the circumstances where potentially trading for TDA was one of the more interesting moves.

 

[pit]

When do we get back to discussing ethnic slurs?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

When do we get back to discussing ethnic slurs?

soon as TDA deal is officaly DOA.

#staybuckled

 

[ProcessThis]

When do we get back to discussing ethnic slurs?

This trade is currently W.O.P.

 

[macleish1974]

Hey you! W.O.P. Stand over here! Another idiot from Sicily! My grandfather , 1910, ELLIS Island.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

I don’t think you can fault Briere if this trade falls thru. They have a deal in place but the league said wait until July 9. July 9 rolls around and suddenly they are looking to bring EK aboard. From my pov Carolina is acting in bad faith if they pull the plug on it:

Why have faith in the idea that the league held it up? Because the guys that have proven you shouldn't have faith in them have told you so?

 

[Striiker]

When do we get back to discussing ethnic slurs?

As soon as you tell me your ethnicity

 

[kudymen]

This is the Duke Nukem Forever of trades.

In that it finally went through after eternity only to be real shit?

I tend to agree

 

[ponder719]

In the end, he could not be.

 

[Striiker]

At least we don’t need to buy him out, I guess?

 

[volnoir]

I doubt Waddell will back out. It's a bad look to renege on a handshake agreement using a technicality.
Now if Waddell needs cap room to pull off a Karlsson deal, that might expand the trade.

What percentage did you doubt?

 

[renberg]

TDA on unconditional waivers