Shocker
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LeBrun: Tomas Hertl not likely to sign extension with the Sharks
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Ledge And Dairy
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That's not true, they are close to competing for Shane Wright
Debrincat93
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i see no reason to stay there.
DW has royally jacked that team up. leave before its too late. IMO
DW has royally jacked that team up. leave before its too late. IMO
OKR
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Eklund is still just a kid, unless he has McDavid like rookie season he won’t be helping them nearly enough to compete this season. Sharks still have the weakest roster of their division besides Seattle, even if Eklund gets 50-60 points. Kings, Nucks and Vegas have superior key players, Ducks & Kings have much better prospect depth too.
Definitely wouldn't hate that. Though I guess it would depend on what's going the other way.
The writing is on the wall regarding a Sharks rebuild. The front office keeps pushing this narrative of being competitive, but it's all a smoke show to keep a small market's fan base buying tickets. Every move they have made since the crash and burn of 2019 has signaled a rebuild. The Karlsson/Burns experiment hasn't worked out - the seamless transition out of the Marleau/Jumbo era failed. And honestly, that should not be seen as a slight against Doug Wilson, it is nearly impossible for a team to stay competitive forever. They went all in to make those final few deep runs. You get Kane off the books, trade Hertl and Burns, pick up a few good picks, and realistically, you can be competitive again pretty soon. Couture and Vlasic are two vets I would want to lead and mentor a youth movement.
What is this? For a rental with a 3 team list?
If he signed long term for ~8M immediately then it's a different animal. If not then drop Newhook.
Patty Ice
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that will depend on how their Bruins centers play , if they are playing well why give up assets that can get them a D-man which would be a priority in my view..........
And EPRinkside rated #14, and Byron Bader ranked #5.
Maybe perhaps rankings are varied?
Lindberg Cheese
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What the deuce
From my understaning, Plattner has not played a big hand in any of the hockey operations over the years. He just signs off on money for Doug.
DarthProbert
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If there's one thing the Avs need after this offseason, it's less 1st rounders, less prospects, and less cap space. If the Avs made this trade(and somehow made the cap work short term) they'd be better right now and almost as bad as SJ in a few years when they have to start giving players away to pay for too many high dollar contracts.
Yeah. Dustin Brown had a renaissance at an older age. It wouldn't be the first time it happens.
They're also not silly doomer types that think teams are as bad as ignorant outsider fans think they are.
Highly likely.
He doesn't need to have a McDavid like rookie season to help the Sharks compete for a playoff spot. The idea that their roster is weakest besides Seattle is very debateable. Besides, injuries can hit any team hard enough to make them a lot worse than anticipated. I tend to see Vegas and Edmonton as the top two teams of the division but that last spot is up for grabs. I don't think any of the Kings, Canucks, Flames, or Ducks made additions that separate them from anyone else in the division.
wintersej
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Right. He could use that three team list like a cudgel to get what he wants like Taylor Hall did. Or he could open it up to a lot more contending teams. It's REALLY hard to have any viable conversation about a potential return until we know Hertl's intentions. Hertl could say "sure, I'll go to Boston, Ottawa and Arizona, but won't sign in Arizona or Ottawa". Or he could say "tell me what offers you get and I'll give an OK to most playoff teams". In one scenario, Sharks fans are pissed. In the other, they get a great return back.
wintersej
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It depends who he puts on the list. If he says, Rangers + Buffalo + Arizona are his three teams... but he won't re-sign in Buffalo and Arizona...
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Bidding can still be fierce among teams not on the list, Hertl will just have the ability to choose his final destination. Hall was coveted even with a NMC, he just was able to ensure he went to Boston. The ultimate return was disappointing though.
The other major challenge is you can't then have Hertl negotiate with the team on an extension pre-trade, cause he will use his NTC to ensure he goes to the team offering him the contract he wants. Basically Hertl's a pure rental with the ability to choose where he goes. It's bad news for SJ and why I thought he was gonna sign an extension.
The other major challenge is you can't then have Hertl negotiate with the team on an extension pre-trade, cause he will use his NTC to ensure he goes to the team offering him the contract he wants. Basically Hertl's a pure rental with the ability to choose where he goes. It's bad news for SJ and why I thought he was gonna sign an extension.
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Only way I see it is if they are the only team he lists that’s reasonable. I’d say any other team in the league could offer something better
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Yeah you're not getting that for a rental. With an extension, sure. But not for a rental, no team is paying a blue chip tier prospect for a rental.
Now if Hertl came with an extension in that 7.5M range, I'd pay an awful lot. Though I would still prefer to keep Newhook as our forward depth is light.
But something around Byram or Girard I think would be where I'd look to go.
