Tod McLlellan is in the final year of his contract.

[Surf Nutz]

Mclellan will continue to run the 1-3-1 and lose the room. He gets fired mid season when the guys give up on him during a bad losing streak.
Stoll takes over as interim head coach and the Kings go on a run.

I asked the magic eight ball and got this:

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I have a feeling it’ll be the standard “receives multi-year extension, fired next year” storyline if and when the Kings have no significant success.

 

[Surf Nutz]

It would be shocking if Todd wasn't extended. Aren't they all besties at the top?

 

[Surf Nutz]

This poll needs a third option of "it depends on whether the Kings win a playoff round". That's where I am.

The Poll was constructed to avoid that option.
You have to think about the potential season outcome and the ramifications for his coaching tenure.
No qualifying it!

Pooh or get off the pot everyone!

 

[tigermask48]

As long as Blake is here as GM, none of this matters. TM refuses to adapt, change, or take risks when it matters in the playoffs, and the rumor is Marco Sturm is the next head coach if/when TM is let go...

 

[KINGS17]

This poll needs a third option of "it depends on whether the Kings win a playoff round". That's where I am.

Don't need it Bamba John. The Kings are not going to win a round in the playoffs.

 

[jgs]

The 1-3-1 system he uses stifles the offense. He now has 3 top centermen that should provide offensive scoring punch. But his 1-3-1 and the ? mark in goal will determine whether he stays or goes. He hasn't done much as a head coach with previous teams. Kings could find better.

 

[Fishhead]

The 1-3-1 system he uses stifles the offense. He now has 3 top centermen that should provide offensive scoring punch. But his 1-3-1 and the ? mark in goal will determine whether he stays or goes. He hasn't done much as a head coach with previous teams. Kings could find better.

When they use it, sure. But they float in and out of that system depending on the score. They don't use it much when they are tied except for late in games. They constantly use it in the 3rd when leading.

They were 10th in offense last year, tied with the Avalanche. TM's biggest problem is that he is too by the book. His systems are fine, I feel he struggles when knowing when to deploy them. He's conservative by nature, and I think it costs us some leads. There are those times when the team lays back a bit when they should be pounding and going for the throat to put the games out of reach.

 

[tigermask48]

When they use it, sure. But they float in and out of that system depending on the score. They don't use it much when they are tied except for late in games. They constantly use it in the 3rd when leading.

They were 10th in offense last year, tied with the Avalanche. TM's biggest problem is that he is too by the book. His systems are fine, I feel he struggles when knowing when to deploy them. He's conservative by nature, and I think it costs us some leads. There are those times when the team lays back a bit when they should be pounding and going for the throat to put the games out of reach.

They did the exact opposite in the playoffs. Nothing but 1-3-1 even when trailing and it cost them the series. It got to the point where by game 5 I was joking the Oilers should just get a lead, and sit with the puck in their own zone. The Kings would never try and win. As long as that continues, and there is no reason to think it won't with TM behind the bench, the Kings are their own worst enemy no matter what they do in the regular season.

 

[Rorschach]

If MacClellan is fired, likely Blake and maybe Robitaille go with him. TMac is Blake’s guy.

 

[tigermask48]

One can only hope...

 

[Schmooley]

When they use it, sure. But they float in and out of that system depending on the score. They don't use it much when they are tied except for late in games. They constantly use it in the 3rd when leading.

They didnt float much out of that system very much and especially didnt in the playoffs no matter the score.

 

[Maynard]

They did the exact opposite in the playoffs. Nothing but 1-3-1 even when trailing and it cost them the series. It got to the point where by game 5 I was joking the Oilers should just get a lead, and sit with the puck in their own zone. The Kings would never try and win. As long as that continues, and there is no reason to think it won't with TM behind the bench, the Kings are their own worst enemy no matter what they do in the regular season.

Yeah I was losing my mind. We’re down late in an elimination game and I’m watching zero pressure and a passive 1-3-1 while the (arguable) best skater/stick handler in the history of the sport is allowed to execute breakouts by himself at will. I obviously don’t know shit about coaching…but that seems like a bad strategy.

 

[Surf Nutz]

As long as Blake is here as GM, none of this matters. TM refuses to adapt, change, or take risks when it matters in the playoffs, and the rumor is Marco Sturm is the next head coach if/when TM is let go...

Good comment however you did not commit to what will happen.

Blake expires end of season 2025.

Sturms PP was atrocious in LA and Hiller showed how to do it.

This season Sturms Reign collapsed at the end of the season and in the playoffs.

I can't believe they gave him an extension.

Moves like this could end up costing Blake.

I will see straight red if Sturm is given the head coach and will be forced onto the fire Blake train.

 

[KINGS17]

Good comment however you did not commit to what will happen.

Blake expires end of season 2025.

Sturms PP was atrocious in LA and Hiller showed how to do it.

This season Sturms Reign collapsed at the end of the season and in the playoffs.

I can't believe they gave him an extension.

Moves like this could end up costing Blake.

I will see straight red if Sturm is given the head coach and will be forced onto the fire Blake train.

Kings' fans finally revolt, figuratively.

 

[Fishhead]

They did the exact opposite in the playoffs. Nothing but 1-3-1 even when trailing and it cost them the series. It got to the point where by game 5 I was joking the Oilers should just get a lead, and sit with the puck in their own zone. The Kings would never try and win. As long as that continues, and there is no reason to think it won't with TM behind the bench, the Kings are their own worst enemy no matter what they do in the regular season.

Yep, they absolutely did. I’ll never understand why coaches change things that are working. I get trying to match up better, but overcoaching is an obvious weakness for TM. if anything, they should have ramped up the pressure.

We will see if they learned. If not, changes should be in order.

 

[Kurrilino]

As long as Blake is here as GM, none of this matters. TM refuses to adapt, change, or take risks when it matters in the playoffs, and the rumor is Marco Sturm is the next head coach if/when TM is let go...

Oh my god, please don't say stuff like that.
We are on course for a rebuild in 3 years, Sturm created the worst offensive ever when he was offensive coach with the Kings.
I don't want him even remotely close to youngsters, Ontario is a disaster

 

[Surf Nutz]

Oh my god, please don't say stuff like that.
We are on course for a rebuild in 3 years, Sturm created the worst offensive ever when he was offensive coach with the Kings.
I don't want him even remotely close to youngsters, Ontario is a disaster

If Blake has yet to be extended and chooses not to extend TMac, he will be desperate.

Too desperate to go with Sturm as a non-interim head coach heading into his expiry season

 

[tigermask48]

Oh my god, please don't say stuff like that.
We are on course for a rebuild in 3 years, Sturm created the worst offensive ever when he was offensive coach with the Kings.
I don't want him even remotely close to youngsters, Ontario is a disaster

I'll be honest, I think the Kings are trended towards a rebuild in 3 years no matter who is behind the bench.
It's getting harder and harder to look back ar Blake's moves and not see that there is no plan in place and all his moves have been reactionary in nature.

The NHL team is now hindered by the salary cap to the point where they may not be able to carry a full 23 man roster despite clear holes in the roster that were not filled.

The AHL team is showing signs of top prospects not reaching their full potential, thus requiring moves to be made to fill organizational weaknesses.

Right now, to me it feels like the Kings are trending more towards the 2000s - 2010s Oilers rather than a legitimate cup contender.
A couple of regular seasons of success here and there but stumbling in the playoffs. Over reliance on an aging core while mortgaging the future to win now, because the team struggles to develop it's own NHL talent.

 

[Kurrilino]

I'll be honest, I think the Kings are trended towards a rebuild in 3 years no matter who is behind the bench.
It's getting harder and harder to look back ar Blake's moves and not see that there is no plan in place and all his moves have been reactionary in nature.

The NHL team is now hindered by the salary cap to the point where they may not be able to carry a full 23 man roster despite clear holes in the roster that were not filled.

The AHL team is showing signs of top prospects not reaching their full potential, thus requiring moves to be made to fill organizational weaknesses.

Right now, to me it feels like the Kings are trending more towards the 2000s - 2010s Oilers rather than a legitimate cup contender.
A couple of regular seasons of success here and there but stumbling in the playoffs. Over reliance on an aging core while mortgaging the future to win now, because the team struggles to develop it's own NHL talent.

This post deserves a reward and should be mandatory to read for all the peeps living the illusion of a cup contender.

We depleted our youth cupboard without any significant progress while keeping the old folks without any chance of improvement

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

This post deserves a reward and should be mandatory to read for all the peeps living the illusion of a cup contender.

We depleted our youth cupboard without any significant progress while keeping the old folks without any chance of improvement

How asinine a take is this? We depleted our youth cupboard???

Per Cap Friendly

Dubois - 25
Lizotte - 25
Grudnstrom -25
Byfield - 21
Kaliyev - 24
JAD - 24
Anderson - 24
Clarke - 20

That's just on the NHL roster....for offseason

Turcotte - 22
Laferierre - 21
Pinelli - 20
Chromiak - 21
Helenius - 20
Fagemo - 23
Thomas - 23
Spence - 22
Bjornfoot - 22
Moveare - 25
Dvorak - 18
Portillo - 23

Yea, f*** our youth cupboard is f***ing bare.....we have 5 guys over 30.....not including goaltenders....include them...7....out of 23....f*** we are old....

 

[Herby]

How asinine a take is this? We depleted our youth cupboard???

Per Cap Friendly

Dubois - 25
Lizotte - 25
Grudnstrom -25
Byfield - 21
Kaliyev - 24
JAD - 24
Anderson - 24
Clarke - 20

That's just on the NHL roster....for offseason

Turcotte - 22
Laferierre - 21
Pinelli - 20
Chromiak - 21
Helenius - 20
Fagemo - 23
Thomas - 23
Spence - 22
Bjornfoot - 22
Moveare - 25
Dvorak - 18
Portillo - 23

Yea, f*** our youth cupboard is f***ing bare.....we have 5 guys over 30.....not including goaltenders....include them...7....out of 23....f*** we are old....

GBH, I love you man, but what does this type of post accomplish? Do you talk to people like this away from the internet? Is it truly necessary to talk like this to get your point across? I don't know about everyone else, but when I see someone typing like this I generally just scroll past, no matter who is posting it. It's just not a normal way of communicating with people. Have you ever wondered why you are the only person here who makes posts in a tone like this? There is a reason for that, just a little friendly advice.

As for the actual content , I think the point that he was trying to make was that the Kings rebuild, which featured six first round picks and eight second round picks between 2017-2021 has not produced results anywhere close to what a reasonable expectation would be for using that much draft capital. None of the four centers taken consecutively between 2017-2020 will be playing C on the opening night roster for the Kings, two of them aren't even in the organization anymore, one of them (a #2 OA pick) was unable to effectively play C and was moved to wing, another one (a #5 OA pick) has been a colossal disappointment basically from day 1 and projects nowhere close to the type of player you expect from that type of pick. The defenseman they used a 1st round pick on they didn't even trust enough to play in the playoffs either of the last two years, preferring players like Troy Stetcher over him.

Of the 8 second round picks, the one who would be considered the most valuable asset was traded (along with a 1st) to fill a scoring hole they couldn't fill with high picks. Another one was basically given away to get out from the CP disaster. Kaliyev has shown flashes but for whatever reason they have been unable to integrate him into a role that suits his skillset. JAD has basically been a AAAA player, a modern day Brad Chartrand type.

The Kings rebuild and once highly touted prospect pool largely turned out to be a flop, and the Kings transitioned to an approach where they acquired older and more established players. People were expecting something more like what Ottawa, Anaheim and Detroit have done, with going forward with young players drafted by the organization, that has certainly not been the case with LA, by any stretch.

When the most impactful player you have drafted over a 6 year period is a defensive d-man you took in the 4th round (great pick, don't get me wrong) that is a pretty big indictment that a lot of your picks were not what was expected.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Lol.
I liked GBH's post and I read a bit of Herby trying to Dear Abby him for a post that was mostly a list and had a little edited tirade at the end.
I confess I couldn't finish reading this latest Solilquay du Herbert' but it was worth reading that part.
Legitimate beefs here on both side of it but you guys are funny as shiite some times.

 

[Herby]

Amazing how the post from SN comes a mere minutes after the ad-hominem DM from Axl.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Amazing how the post from SN comes a mere minutes after the ad-hominem DM from Axl.

You guys gonna call Maulder and Scully this time?

✖

 

[Choralone]

Are you all bots? Am I plugged into the matrix? What is real?