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Speculation: Tocchet, do we really need him?

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Time for a coaching change?

  • Fire him

    Votes: 10 47.6%

  • Keep him

    Votes: 11 52.4%
  • Total voters
    21
Joe Rogan

Joe Rogan

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The team is in no man's land and is the most boring team in the league. There is no offensive zone strategy, just dump and chase and give up possession just like the Coyotes of old. The team is allergic to shots and regularly gets bodied in that regard, often putting up 3, 4 shot periods while the opponent doubles or triples that. The team never shows up on time to play, and the 1st period is usually a write off. The powerplay is horrendous, with zero movement and questionable personnel decisions every time. Some players are given zero leeway, but liabilities like Juulsen and Myers get endless rope with no accountability. The team is currently last in the league in Expected goals for , and thats is not a surprise given the low event, safe gameplan provided by this coaching staff leading to pedestrian results and hockey purgatory. Is it time for a change?
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Never really understood stood why we were such a dynamic skating and scoring wagon the first half of the 2023-2024 season and then it all fell off a cliff.
 
I heard on the postgame show we are last for shots on goal and last on shots on goal per game.

51 shot attempts tonight 15 hit the net.

Some of that has to be on coaching.
 
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i dont know enough to say but i will say for free that its worth trying a different coach at this point, we aint winning shit anyway. may as well see what sticks and what dont
 
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Penthouse to outhouse very quickly I see. Sorry. The dressing room has been a shit show and we have had key players injured
 
Let's just go all in and replace Tocchet with Sam Hallam.

Benefits:

- Pettersson's junior coach.
- team Sweden's head coach so we continue our trend of Swedish flair.
- his name offers itself to a lot of fun rhymes and the in house dj will play that "black Betty" song non stop.

Win win win.
 
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I am not sure what to think anymore. Sure you can fire Tochett, but that's just another notch on the belt. Short hotstreaks with Boudreau and Tochett then the team dies. Been through a bunch of coaches as of late. The team plays good and then things go stale. Not sure how many coaches you can go through before you start to question the players. What does it take with this group. All the BS this season, Miller/Pettersson fiasco, distractions in the lockeroom. The players themselves need to be held accountable.

Fire Tochett sure, but this crap will keep happening with this group until something else is changed. Regardless of a new coach or not.
 
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Early in the season it was a blueline which looked more like road pylons and fire hydrants--they've been at least partially successful in fixing that.

Now the problems are up-front, which is harder to fix with just 25 games left in the season Once you get past Debrusk and Boeser, the scoring from the wingers just falls down a manhole.

Trouble is they have too many of the same kind of wingers. Smallish, not great skaters, and can't win puck battles and get to the net. Not sure there's enough time left to fix it this season. But more size and speed up-front has to be a top off-season priority.
 
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This is the perfect time for a coach like Bruce. He would at least let the players fly and regain confidence. The team structure would suffer but it would not matter since at this point we are 1st round cannon fodder at best. At least the games would be more fun. That being said, the team is almost devoid of offensive talent.
 
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He keeps saying this but his low event hockey has followed him wherever he has coached.
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Honestly last year was exciting and some of the best structure I've seen since before Willie.

The team must embody not the coaches' wisdom, but his personality. I just don't see the aversion to Hog and Petey together. It lasts like 4 games and when he quits is just when it's getting good.

Whoa. Metaphor.

Like if we are actually discussing this about a man who won a Jack Adams Award not 12 months ago, we seriously are the dumbest hockey fans alive.

Good coaches borrow, great coaches teach. I've seen a ton of development outside of certain players, not as players but as personalities. I find the personalities interesting again, much the same of successfuler Canucks teams in the past.

Thank you OP. That was cathartic. Hilarious title.
 
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Reverend Mayhem said:
Honestly last year was exciting and some of the best structure I've seen since before Willie.

The team must embody not the coaches' wisdom, but his personality. I just don't see the aversion to Hog and Petey together. It lasts like 4 games and when he quits is just when it's getting good.

Whoa. Metaphor.

Like if we are actually discussing this about a man who won a Jack Adams Award not 12 months ago, we seriously are the dumbest hockey fans alive.

Good coaches borrow, great coaches teach. I've seen a ton of development outside of certain players, not as players but as personalities. I find the personalities interesting again, much the same of successfuler Canucks teams in the past.

Thank you OP. That was cathartic. Hilarious title.
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Jack Adams means f*** all. Patrick Roy won it because just like Rick his team overachieved in 13/14. Canucks overachieved last season because even our plugs shot the puck like prime Naslund. He destroyed Kuzmenko, Hog and now Skinny as offensive players. Rick is a great defensive coach but he can't coach offence at all. His style of hockey worked in the 90's.
 
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We're 25th in 5on5 shooting percentage since December 1st. We were 4th in the league from the start of the season to the end of November. and ofc we were basically record setters last season. the fanbase's enjoyment of Tocchet hockey was always going to be a discussion point once the luck stopped. All the other mess will probably allow breathing room for Tocchet.....although that could cut both ways, right? If he is indeed uncontracted, he'd be silly not to look at other teams imo - his stock as probably as high as it'll ever be.
 
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