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Rumor: Tobias Rieder could spend 2016/17 in KHL

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Rieder’s agent, Darren Ferris, continues to assert that the two sides are not close to a deal, with a significant difference of opinion on what Rieder is worth. Rieder set career highs for goals (14) and assists (23) last season. He averaged 17:18 of ice time in 82 games in the last season of a three-year, $2.8 million entry-level contract.

Ferris said he has some strong interest from European and KHL clubs (Metallurg and Omsk are possible), and he also intimated on Friday that Rieder could receive an offer sheet from another NHL team, which would force the Coyotes to either match the offer or walk away with compensation. It is unclear whether that will happen.
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http://arizonasports.com/story/742516/yotes-notes-tikhonov-returns-to-russia/
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whats he asking and whats he being offered from Yotes?.. he had a decent year last year but im hoping he isn't asking a stupid amount of money
 
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Wow, I was pissed the Oilers gave him away for nothing even after the the rumour he wouldn't sign with us... but now.... he'd definitely an expensive middle-6er.
 
Skinnyjimmy08 said:
are you serious? is that actually true? If so, I don't blame Yotes for letting him walk
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http://arizonasports.com/story/737080/coyotes-tobias-rieders-agent-sides-not-close-contract-talks/

"Rieder’s three-year, $2.8 million entry-level contract expired on July 1. He made $920,000 last season and was due a qualifying offer with a 10 percent increase in salary. Ferris feels Toronto’s Nazem Kadri ($4.5 million AAV) is a fair comparable given his similar production level last season (45 points) and Rieder’s superior analytics in terms of possession. He also cited recently signed free agent Jamie McGinn (three years, $10 million), but the Coyotes have other comparables in mind."
 
Damn, that would suck for the Coyotes. They need young guys like him. Things were looking decent for them with that young core. Hopefully they get it figured out.
 
How does this agent view either Kadri or McGinn as comparables, let alone both? That literally doesn't make any sense. Kadri and McGinn aren't even comparables for each other. Also, there's a zero percent chance that either Metallurg or Omsk offers him a Kadri type contract.

I actually think a McGinn contact isn't that bad of an overpay (though it clearly is) but not because McGinn is a comparable (which he's clearly not).
 
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How does this agent view either Kadri or McGinn as comparables, let alone both? That literally doesn't make any sense. Kadri and McGinn aren't even comparables for each other. Also, there's a zero percent chance that either Metallurg or Omsk offers him a Kadri type contract.

I actually think a McGinn contact isn't that bad of an overpay (though it clearly is) but not because McGinn is a comparable (which he's clearly not).
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"My client will only accept a 3x3.33 or 6x4.5 contract. Literally nothing else."
 
JeiJeieL said:
He wants Kadri money (~4,5m) per his agent, that's not going to happen.
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4.5 million for a guy who hasn't hit 40 points yet...wow. I'm wondering if this kid has some entitlement issues. Rumor was that the Oilers traded him because he wasn't going to sign with them and would go back into the draft if he wasn't signed, so Tambellini basically had to trade him. Now he's over valuing himself as an RFA. Makes you wonder what some people are thinking. He's really impressed me in the few games I have seen him, could be a legit producer in this league as a middle six player, but he hasn't earned half of that 4.5 million yet.
 
SniperHF said:
Normally I'd agree but the agent 3 weeks ago also in the same interview dropped the "could play in Europe" bomb and now there's this KHL rumor.
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Agents will do that though, especially those who talk too much.

Personally I could see him getting moved or signing an offer sheet. I could see a few teams offering him something in the 3x3 ballpark.
 
Whoo rieder has to cool it. Kadri for his career averages ~50pts alon with great advance stats, he's a center who's played multiple years and produced with trash linemates. This was tobias' first good year. A bridge deal is fair but if he wants term than I think the yotes should offer 3.2x5 thats a fair deal currently. Otherwise a 2.5×2 is a fair deal for what he has shown. If he was smart he would sign a bridge and realive that with the yotes improving as a team he could pot 50-55 pts if he works hard the next two seasons and get a 5+mill deal. He isn't worth kadri money(who himself took a big discount imo) right now.
 
Look at the very recent signings of Kevin Hayes and Jesper Fast. How can Rieder argue he deserves more than Hayes? While I'm sure the Coyotes aren't saying he's worth less than Fast, are they? How about Victor Rask? Rieder is very obviously worth at least a million less per year than Rask. There are all kinds of RFA signings this summer that can be used to set his value. He's very clearly with less than 3.5mil per year but probably worth at least 2.5mil per year.

I challenge anyone to point to a single RFA forward signing this summer that indicates he should get 3.5avg or more.
 
JeiJeieL said:
He wants Kadri money (~4,5m) per his agent, that's not going to happen.
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Well that's dumb. Not only is Kadri better and more proven but he also signed a bridge contract right out of his ELC so they're not comparable in service time either, and Kadri's contract bought more UFA years than Reider's would.

His agent can't be that dumb to actually think Kadri is a comparable. Unless this is his first year on the job. Not sure who his agent is.

That being said I like him and would like to have him in the NHL still. Hope they figure something out.
 
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