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Yes has to be protectedDoesn't that just mean that the leafs have to include him as a protected defenseman and he still takes up one of our 3 d slots?
Yes has to be protectedDoesn't that just mean that the leafs have to include him as a protected defenseman and he still takes up one of our 3 d slots?
If there’s anything reassuring about this game of musical chairs it’s the fact that Flames fans are not in support of the Brodie for Tanev downgrade.
Apparently, the Leafs actually made an offer to Tanev for under $4 mil:
So in the Leafs' assessment, Brodie worths $1 mil more than Tanev.
I think both players are good defensively. What separates Brodie from Ceci is that he is so obviously a more well rounded player and exactly the type of two way guy that Rielly has needed to play with. 35 year old Giordano just won the Norris with Brodie as a partner right? None of that takes away from the fact Ceci has excellent defensive stats this year. The problem is that if you are going to become useless once you hit the redline, you might not be a great fit in the top 4 on a winning team.
Dmen with the lowest 5v5 Goals Against/60 while on the ice in the league this year REL (min 950 minutes played this past season):
1. Stecher: - .88 goals per 60
2. Mayfield : - .82 goals per 60
3. Nemeth: - .82 goals per 60
4. Green: - .81 goals per 60
5. Yandle: - .74 goals per 60
6. Ceci: - .74 goals per 60
7. Fowler: - .7 goals per 60
8. Josi: - .66 goals per 60
9. Theodore: - .63 goals per 60
10: Giordano: - .62 goals per 60
This is basically a list of players that were the best in the league when it came to limiting goals scored by the other team relative how the rest of their team did. There are other factors of course including quality of competition and usage but considering Ceci wasnt used primarily as a 5/6 this year or dropped into any kind of offensive situations, he fares pretty well I think. He could have just gotten lucky or suffering from some statical noise I guess (considering the massive drop off in the quality of the Leafs goaltending this year) but he also has solid underlying numbers and was, when paired with Muzzin was on the #1 PK pairing in the NHL for GA/60 REL. Its really hard to find any numbers, advanced or not, that say Ceci was bad defensively unless you wanna start talking about things like gap control but even then, if those things dont lead to high danger chances or goals against, what are they defining? Why are his GA numbers so low? Has anyone even tried to talk about his strengths?
In the end, it was best for him to walk away as he'll never escape the narrative he is "bad defensively". It's part of the mainstream now......and I have no doubt he'll get buried even more when our goaltending inevitably rebounds next year (it has too doesnt it?) and folks will say "See, he was the problem". Its always interesting to see how the sausage of narratives are made though.
Brodie is expansion draft exempt because of his NMC in his contract. Thats good
You are right. I read misinformation on that, or did i......He doesn't have to be protected, but that doesn't mean that he's exempt from the draft. If we don't use one of our 3 dmen protection slots on him, Seattle can claim him.
Probably just in making Brodie happy. With the cap situation he's more likely to get the full value of his contract in the last couple years than in the first couple years. The benefit to the Leafs I suppose was in getting him signed.What is the advantage of backloading the contract
We have the same D core as last year. Just replace Barrie with Brodie...also we might end up losing Dermott & Ceci's done
If the Leafs offer to Tanev was after Brodie, which seems likely as Dubas said Brodie was the main focus.
This tells us that Leafs were in the position to add a 3,5M defenseman. Wouldn't that mean Weegar would still be an option?
Yes but Florida is in no hurry to trade him. Unless ownership does a complete fire sale.
Johnston said they are definitley trying to trade him, but doesn't know if Toronto would still be in on it.
That's why I made the comment, if the Tanev offer was made and Florida is trying to trade Weegar, I would think Toronto is involved.
For him or us? For us, nothing really. For him it avoids huge escrow years. Pretty sure the NHL has an early out on this CBA though, so guys may be hit on the backend if there is a rollback.What is the advantage of backloading the contract
If the Leafs offer to Tanev was after Brodie, which seems likely as Dubas said Brodie was the main focus.
This tells us that Leafs were in the position to add a 3,5M defenseman. Wouldn't that mean Weegar would still be an option?
What is the advantage of backloading the contract
Would you rather Tanev or Weegar? Keep in mind this D partner is for Morgan Rielly so we want the best defensive defensmen imo.
Would you rather Tanev or Weegar? Keep in mind this D partner is for Morgan Rielly so we want the best defensive defensmen imo.