Tiny Heiny

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Couldn't find a Heinola thread so I made one.

Serioulsy what is the status of this guy, small size and lack of a burst of speed to close gaps hinders his abilty in the NHL.

Really surprised he wasn't moved, I'm sure he will be in the off season or even if the NHL is his best option. Heinola is already 24 and drafted six years ago!

 

[Crocket]

They just favored Stan's size over Heinola, but Heinola was clearly the better player. He probably needs a lot more games to get back to 100. In his last few games he was playing quite well.

 

[Jet]

Who are your examples of young players stuck in the press box?

Also, Chevy doesn't make those calls, he's said it many times in interviews.

 

[Jet]

They just favored Stan's size over Heinola, but Heinola was clearly the better player. He probably needs a lot more games to get back to 100. In his last few games he was playing quite well.

Unfortunately his last game was pretty bad iirc.

I just think wth the Jets overall D size there isn't a spot for him.

Size matters, especially in the playoffs.

 

[sipowicz]

They just favored Stan's size over Heinola, but Heinola was clearly the better player. He probably needs a lot more games to get back to 100. In his last few games he was playing quite well.

Disagree, Tiny Heiny has been mostly sheltered, if he was playing as well as you think he would have stayed in the lineup!

True enough Stan has some stinkers but he's been okay most of the season, Tiny Heiny on the other hand was overwhlemed, the puck stayed in the Jets end when he played!

 

[Gm0ney]

Disagree, Tiny Heiny has been mostly sheltered, if he was playing as well as you think he would have stayed in the lineup!

True enough Stan has some stinkers but he's been okay most of the season, Tiny Heiny on the other hand was overwhlemed, the puck stayed in the Jets end when he played!

I guess some people just like watching Stanley bumble around out there night after night after night vs. trying to give a smaller, more skilled defenseman some rope to improve his game.

As I've said before, give Heinola the same rope as Stanley and he would've developed into a way better defenseman than Stanley has.

 

[GNP]

Disagree, Tiny Heiny has been mostly sheltered, if he was playing as well as you think he would have stayed in the lineup!

True enough Stan has some stinkers but he's been okay most of the season, Tiny Heiny on the other hand was overwhlemed, the puck stayed in the Jets end when he played!

Have to agree with Sip here. Tiny Heiny is just not NHL caliber. He does have the size or strength to hold down that position. I would have traded him a long time ago.

 

[Weezeric]

I guess some people just like watching Stanley bumble around out there night after night after night vs. trying to give a smaller, more skilled defenseman some rope to improve his game.

As I've said before, give Heinola the same rope as Stanley and he would've developed into a way better defenseman than Stanley has.

At Heinola’s age, Stanley had played 95 NHL games. Heinola has played 54 and if he wasn’t injured to start the season the last two years, he would’ve played more.

That being said, I haven’t closed the book on Heinola for next year. He’s signed for cheap and I think Schenn is the perfect partner for him.

 

[abax44]

His value has been completely shot with how he has been handled this season. I doubt he even gets a 4th round pick at the draft. He should have been atleast part of the rotation on the 3rd pairing. One wonders if Stanley hadn't broken his foot at the beginning of the season a couple of seasons ago which opened the door for Samberg, would Samberg be in the Heinola spot today. Seems like there is no way to break into the Jets d-corps on merit and you almost have to be "lucky" to have the right combination of injuries at the backend at the right time to get your shot.

I pray Salomonsson doesn't suffer the same fate.

He's had chances and couldn't even beat out Stanley.

Ville - the new Petan/Niku...

 

[abax44]

Ville should be busting his ass extra hard in practice right now. They're clearly giving Stan a break, now is his chance.

 

[sipowicz]

I guess some people just like watching Stanley bumble around out there night after night after night vs. trying to give a smaller, more skilled defenseman some rope to improve his game.

As I've said before, give Heinola the same rope as Stanley and he would've developed into a way better defenseman than Stanley has.

Would this development include growing 3-4 inches and gaining 25-30 Ibs through some sort of osmosis, what part of too small doesn’t compute!?

The games where Stan supposedly bumbled around the Jets were winning and only allowing 1-2 goals, pretty tough to fault any of the D

This is all mute anyways, when Pionk is back, Miller and Fleury will fight for the 6D spot and Stan and Tiny Heiny will fight over popcorn duty!

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

Ville should be busting his ass extra hard in practice right now. They're clearly giving Stan a break, now is his chance.

We may need Ville in the Stanley Cup Finals when half our D is injured.
Just noticed the irony in Stan maybe needed in the "Stanley" Cup Finals.
Maybe Stanley's time to shine will be in the "Stanley" Cup Playoffs.

 

[10Ducky10]

We may need Ville in the Stanley Cup Finals when half our D is injured.
Just noticed the irony in Stan maybe needed in the "Stanley" Cup Finals.
Maybe Stanley's time to shine will be in the "Stanley" Cup Playoffs.

If you believe that, I have a bridge in Lockport I want to sell you...

 

[Bob E]

Heinola plays a small and soft game at the moment, and unless that changes it will be hard for him to be a regular NHL dman, imo.

Will he continue to develop a "harder game to play against" in order to stick in the NHL? Who knows, I would have thought Perfetti was in the same predicament but clearly, he has found a game that can compete when the games get more difficult.

But for now, unless Ville can demonstrate that harder game in practice, it's unlikely he has a future with the Jets.

Stanley is not the answer either on the bottom pairing. He plays fine for most of a game then gives up a terrible gaff that ends up in a goal against. Nearly every game. You can't have that player in a playoff lineup.

 

[Flair Hay]

Heinola plays a small and soft game at the moment, and unless that changes it will be hard for him to be a regular NHL dman, imo.

Will he continue to develop a "harder game to play against" in order to stick in the NHL? Who knows, I would have thought Perfetti was in the same predicament but clearly, he has found a game that can compete when the games get more difficult.

But for now, unless Ville can demonstrate that harder game in practice, it's unlikely he has a future with the Jets.

Stanley is not the answer either on the bottom pairing. He plays fine for most of a game then gives up a terrible gaff that ends up in a goal against. Nearly every game. You can't have that player in a playoff lineup.

I think people may be surprised what he could look like in the NHL with a steady, stay at home defensive partner and a consistent role on the team.

Teams need top pair studs, big strong defensive D, and they need puck movers. Heinola has always been a puck mover and outside of the time he was pegged to play with Dillon he hasn't been partnered with a player that is any good that compliments him.

And if it doesn't work out then you can part ways.

 

[Slimy Sculpin]

Heinola plays a small and soft game at the moment, and unless that changes it will be hard for him to be a regular NHL dman, imo.

Will he continue to develop a "harder game to play against" in order to stick in the NHL? Who knows, I would have thought Perfetti was in the same predicament but clearly, he has found a game that can compete when the games get more difficult.

But for now, unless Ville can demonstrate that harder game in practice, it's unlikely he has a future with the Jets.

Stanley is not the answer either on the bottom pairing. He plays fine for most of a game then gives up a terrible gaff that ends up in a goal against. Nearly every game. You can't have that player in a playoff lineup.

Right now I don't like our options for the 3rd pair. Hopefully, Pionk will be back soon which would allow Schen to drop back to the 3rd pair. Options for #6 are much better then. I, unfortunately, agree about Stanley. IMO, if he's in the lineup come playoffs, it's one and done. He's too slow especially in those board and netfront battles and really doesn’t play "hard" enough.