Value of: Timothy Liljegren to the Leafs

[LondonKendrick]

Clearly Liljegren is the missing piece to the Leafs rebuild being a dynamic RHD.

So if the Leafs are picking 5-10 is there a package that is possible to move up to get him?

Nyander + 5-10 OA pick + 2nd as a base?

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[MMC]

I've been saying for awhile that they will likely tank for him.

 

[LondonKendrick]

I've been saying for awhile that they will likely tank for him.

Would love for the Leafs to tank for him, real Leaf fans that see the big picture get it.

 

[Scholarships]

Hard to say considering that the draft is so far away but that seems like a solid offer to me

 

[Finnish your Czech]

That depends on so many different factors that could change the situation, but it looks okay?

 

[Kelly]

Clearly Liljegren is the missing piece to the Leafs rebuild being a dynamic RHD.

So if the Leafs are picking 5-10 is there a package that is possible to move up to get him?

Nyander + 5-10 OA pick + 2nd as a base?

This would be horrible asset management.

Leafs will be a bottom five team most likely, so they'll have a good chance drafting him with their own pick anyway.

Who knows, Liljegren could fall by next june anyway, like Kylington did.

 

[LondonKendrick]

This would be horrible asset management.

Leafs will be a bottom five team most likely, so they'll have a good chance drafting him with their own pick anyway.

Who knows, Liljegren could fall into the teens by next june anyway, ala Kylington.

Liljegren has franchise defenseman potential, he's 2nd OA or rising.

Matthews - Marner

Rielly - Liljegren

Andersen (if he's the real deal)

That's a contending/favorite core one day.

 

[Canada4Gold]

This is kind of premature. There's a full year of development to go so who knows where he or other players will be ranked in 2017. IIRC Chychrun was ranked 2nd entering last year. And nobody knows who is picking where. And there's a full developmental year for Nylander.

There's way too many unknown factors right now, all you can really say is year given the right circumstances that may be enough but nobody knows.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Liljegren has franchise defenseman potential, he's 2nd OA or rising.

Matthews - Marner

Rielly - Liljegren

Andersen (if he's the real deal)

That's a contending/favorite core one day.

Andersen is absolutely the real deal

 

[Kelly]

Liljegren has franchise defenseman potential, he's 2nd OA or rising.

Matthews - Marner

Rielly - Liljegren

Andersen (if he's the real deal)

That's a contending/favorite core one day.

It's premature.

Kylington was thought of as a top ten pick the year before too, a lot can happen in a year. As another poster brought up Chyrchrun also, and Ebert is another, who was thought as a top five pick, but fell to the last pick in the draft.

 

[LondonKendrick]

It's premature.

Kylington was thought of as a top ten pick the year before too, a lot can happen in a year.

Big difference between talking about a 1/2 OA prospect and 5/6, hence the original proposal. Liljegren isn't failing, the draft falls off after him and Patrick

 

[Kelly]

Big difference between talking about a 1/2 OA prospect and 5/6, hence the original proposal. Liljegren isn't failing, the draft falls off after him and Patrick

Edited my post after.

Also Chyrchrun, and Ebert are more examples. You can't say for sure he isn't falling, dude it's a year away lol...

 

[LondonKendrick]

Edited my post after.

Also Chyrchrun, and Ebert are more examples. You can't say for sure he isn't falling, dude it's a year away lol...

Chychrun was never called a Doughty/Karlsson hybrid, he's not a RHD and again, he was slotted after the elite drop off of Matthews/Laine/Puljujarvi, he was never in the discussion of the draft's top tier, it's rare we see player fall from that elite tier.

 

[Funk21]

While I would love Liljegren not at the expense of Nylander, Foote looks pretty solid as well and if we are picking 5-10 I would rather keep Nylander than trade asset.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Chychrun was never called a Doughty/Karlsson hybrid, he's not a RHD and again, he was slotted after the elite drop off of Matthews/Laine/Puljujarvi, he was never in the discussion of the draft's top tier, it's rare we see player fall from that elite tier.

How quickly people forget

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/j...6-nhl-draft-s-top-10-prospects-194547004.html

https://www.hockeyprospect.com/2016-nhl-draft-rankings-hockeyprospect-com-september-top-50/

http://www.tsn.ca/auston-matthews-is-just-that-good-1.358947

http://www.mckeenshockey.com/feature-story/youngblood-preliminary-2016-nhl-draft-rankings-2/

http://thehockeywriters.com/2016-nhl-draft-rankings-war-room-preliminary-top-60/

#2, #2, #3, #2, #2

and that was just a quick google of the rankings setting the search parameters from last July to last September

 

[Kelly]

Chychrun was never called a Doughty/Karlsson hybrid, he's not a RHD and again, he was slotted after the elite drop off of Matthews/Laine/Puljujarvi, he was never in the discussion of the draft's top tier, it's rare we see player fall from that elite tier.

No. You're not remembering it correctly, at all.

A year ago, the draft was seen as Matthews/Chychrun/Puljujarvi -- Laine wasn't seen as a top 5 pick. I'm not saying Liljegren won't be a top pick, but the way you're speaking in absolutes a full season before the draft is crazy talk.

 

[Halla]

Liljegren for Nylander + Foote + pick 35 seems very steep

 

[Halla]

Chychrun was never called a Doughty/Karlsson hybrid, he's not a RHD and again, he was slotted after the elite drop off of Matthews/Laine/Puljujarvi, he was never in the discussion of the draft's top tier, it's rare we see player fall from that elite tier.

Chychrun was definitely seen as the #2 prospect this time last year, ahead of the finns.

he was drafted 16th. Liljegren could easily still be around even if the leafs pick 5th, 7th, 10th etc.

 

[Dogewow]

Big difference between talking about a 1/2 OA prospect and 5/6, hence the original proposal. Liljegren isn't failing, the draft falls off after him and Patrick

There was a similar sentiment towards Chychrun around this time last year, and then his game dropped off. Chychrun was pretty highly touted.

 

[CG14]

How quickly people forget

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/j...6-nhl-draft-s-top-10-prospects-194547004.html

https://www.hockeyprospect.com/2016-nhl-draft-rankings-hockeyprospect-com-september-top-50/

http://www.tsn.ca/auston-matthews-is-just-that-good-1.358947

http://www.mckeenshockey.com/feature-story/youngblood-preliminary-2016-nhl-draft-rankings-2/

http://thehockeywriters.com/2016-nhl-draft-rankings-war-room-preliminary-top-60/

#2, #2, #3, #2, #2

and that was just a quick google of the rankings setting the search parameters from last July to last September

Hey! get out of here with your fancy researching and fact finding. I come to HF for wild speculation and revisionist history.

 

[gretskidoo]

Liljegren will drop to wherever Detroit is drafting. Exactly like Chychrun.

Guy sucks. Inside tip from me, go tell your favorite teams' GMs.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Andersen is absolutely the real deal

Whistling while walking by a graveyard at midnight.

 

[Menzinger]

I'd trade Marner well before Nylander, but I doubt the team holding that lick would be interested

These types of deals just don't happen in today's NHL.

 

[Drew311]

This is kind of premature. There's a full year of development to go so who knows where he or other players will be ranked in 2017. IIRC Chychrun was ranked 2nd entering last year. And nobody knows who is picking where. And there's a full developmental year for Nylander.

There's way too many unknown factors right now, all you can really say is year given the right circumstances that may be enough but nobody knows.

Ding ding ding. This thread is very premature.

 

[Teeder9]

Clearly Liljegren is the missing piece to the Leafs rebuild being a dynamic RHD.

So if the Leafs are picking 5-10 is there a package that is possible to move up to get him?

Nyander + 5-10 OA pick + 2nd as a base?

What happens if Nylander gets 60+ points this season?