Value of: Timo Meier to New Jersey

[Stephen Gionta]

What would it take to get this kid to the Devils? He would look great alongside Hischier and Bratt on the 2nd line.

My offer:
Jesper Boqvist + Michael Vukojevic/Nikita Okhotyuk + 2021 1st (NYI) + 2022 2nd (NJD)

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[Mersss]

What would it take to get this kid to the Devils? He would look great alongside Hischier and Bratt on the 2nd line.

My offer:
Jesper Boqvist + Michael Vukojevic/Nikita Okhotyuk + 2021 1st (NYI) + 2022 2nd (NJD)

Bunch of C prospect, late 1st in a weak draft and a mid 2nd rd pick in 2022

That's not getting you Meier, quality > quantity

 

[Kcoyote3]

I’d take it

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I don't think Boqvist nor either of Vukojevic or Okhotyuk will draw much interest from the Sharks. I'm sure they'd also prefer the 2022 1st over the Islander '21 pick. I'm alright with trading Timo Meier but it's gotta be something the Sharks want to have. They have more of a need for center, RHD, and goalie prospects over LHD's. They're pretty solid there and on the wing.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I don't think Boqvist nor either of Vukojevic or Okhotyuk will draw much interest from the Sharks. I'm sure they'd also prefer the 2022 1st over the Islander '21 pick. I'm alright with trading Timo Meier but it's gotta be something the Sharks want to have. They have more of a need for center, RHD, and goalie prospects over LHD's. They're pretty solid there and on the wing.

definitely fair

Boqvist is a better center than winger, though. We also have guys like Tyce Thompson available who could play center. Or Zacha if you want to go that route, though he is far better at wing than center

 

[Blackjack]

I don't think Boqvist nor either of Vukojevic or Okhotyuk will draw much interest from the Sharks. I'm sure they'd also prefer the 2022 1st over the Islander '21 pick. I'm alright with trading Timo Meier but it's gotta be something the Sharks want to have. They have more of a need for center, RHD, and goalie prospects over LHD's. They're pretty solid there and on the wing.

Wow, that's terrible, NJ's prospect pool is the same. All LDs and wings. Haha.

 

[goonybird]

Okhotyuk is a lot better to those who are familiar with him...which SJS fans are almost definitely not. They might go for Moynihan, Clarke 1.0, Foote, or Tyce. Can't see Boqvist moving the needle at all.

Not sure we move Clarke before finding out which of the Hughes/Clarke duo we're drafting.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Okhotyuk is a lot better to those who are familiar with him...which SJS fans are almost definitely not. They might go for Moynihan, Clarke 1.0, Foote, or Tyce. Can't see Boqvist moving the needle at all.

Not sure we move Clarke before finding out which of the Hughes/Clarke duo we're drafting.

So that was the angle all along...crafty bastards!

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

What would it take to get this kid to the Devils? He would look great alongside Hischier and Bratt on the 2nd line.

My offer:
Jesper Boqvist + Michael Vukojevic/Nikita Okhotyuk + 2021 1st (NYI) + 2022 2nd (NJD)

Would Mercer be available in a deal for Meier?

 

[CupfortheSharks]

The Sharks need high end young talent. What about Meier and Labanc for New Jersey’s 2021 1st?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

The Sharks need high end young talent. What about Meier and Labanc for New Jersey’s 2021 1st?

If you're looking for high end young talent, this is not the draft to be trading into.

 

[goonybird]

The Sharks need high end young talent. What about Meier and Labanc for New Jersey’s 2021 1st?

It's fine value but the problem is there are some decent defencemen available and NJ could really use an additional D prospect. On top of that, they already own the rights to Hughes' and Clarke's brothers.

Would Mercer be available in a deal for Meier?

I'd rather lose Holtz, but I'm a Mercer superfan.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

It's fine value but the problem is there are some decent defencemen available and NJ could really use an additional D prospect. On top of that, they already own the rights to Hughes' and Clarke's brothers.



I'd rather lose Holtz, but I'm a Mercer superfan.

Ok. Fair.

 

[DarthProbert]

People here thinking a guy who's been declining for 2 years at the age he should be improving, with a $10 million qualifying offer in 2 seasons, nets payments as if he panned out exactly as hoped. Move Meier for cap space. Picks and prospects, don't be fussy. OP's proposal works fine.

 

[Groo]

People here thinking a guy who's been declining for 2 years at the age he should be improving, with a $10 million qualifying offer in 2 seasons, nets payments as if he panned out exactly as hoped. Move Meier for cap space. Picks and prospects, don't be fussy. OP's proposal works fine.

No it doesn't. Try rising above yourself and not being that poster

 

[themelkman]

I know Meier had a bad year but hes still worth a decent amount. We would need one really good asset coming back, which isnt really offered here.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

People here thinking a guy who's been declining for 2 years at the age he should be improving, with a $10 million qualifying offer in 2 seasons, nets payments as if he panned out exactly as hoped. Move Meier for cap space. Picks and prospects, don't be fussy. OP's proposal works fine.

Cap space only matters if it’s going to be used so for a team like the Sharks with the contracts they have and direction they’re heading in, what is that cap space going to be used on that they can’t do already? Picks and prospects only mean something if they’re valued and utilized appropriately. You can make a sound argument for picks but prospects still have to fill an organizational need to which this deal doesn’t. Either pay for Meier by giving a futures based deal that makes sense for them or take a bad contract with Meier and give up next to nothing or look elsewhere.

 

[Gecklund]

Timo for NJ 1st straight up

 

[RSeen]

Timo for NJ 1st straight up

That is never going to happen.

I'd consider trading Zacha and NYI first but honestly the contract structure with there being only 2 years left and the last year being a $10M salary is a deterrent. The qualifying offer would be very large and he could easily accept it and go to free agency.

 

[Gecklund]

That is never going to happen.

I'd consider trading Zacha and NYI first but honestly the contract structure with there being only 2 years left and the last year being a $10M salary is a deterrent. The qualifying offer would be very large and he could easily accept it and go to free agency.

I wouldn’t do it for that. That’s really bad for the sharks.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

The Sharks need high end young talent. What about Meier and Labanc for New Jersey’s 2021 1st?

LaBanc looks to have negative value to me, or at least is pretty borderline. He might pass through waivers. Meier's qualifying offer is so bad ($10 m) he will likely become a UFA in 2 years as he won't be qualified. A new deal I guess can be negotiated before that decision has to be made but it's going to be an interesting negotiation with UFA status likely coming. I don't think NJ can do this.

 

[RSeen]

I wouldn’t do it for that. That’s really bad for the sharks.

It aint great, but neither is Meier's contract situation. I probably wouldn't do the trade due to the contract tbh.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Timo for NJ 1st straight up

yeah if that is the ask, we probably aren't getting anywhere here.

 

[Gecklund]

It aint great, but neither is Meier's contract situation. I probably wouldn't do the trade due to the contract tbh.

Great. Sharks won’t do it either so it doesn’t matter.

yeah if that is the ask, we probably aren't getting anywhere here.

Timo is a top 6 winger that is still only 24. You hope the first becomes him. Only reason we do this is cause we suck but need to suck more.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Great. Sharks won’t do it either so it doesn’t matter.

Timo is a top 6 winger that is still only 24. You hope the first becomes him. Only reason we do this is cause we suck but need to suck more.

I'm not saying its an unfair ask, I'm just saying I can't see NJ being interested

they need to use that first to get another high end DMan to pair with Ty Smith