Post-Game Talk: Time to cut the moustache

[CupofOil]

I mean, leaving the Stars' best sniper wide open in a prime scoring area wasn't going to end well. Those kinds of goals didn't happen last year.

Sometimes goalies make big saves from prime scoring areas, the Oilers goalie makes far less than most.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Listening to GYB and I see the headline of the video is "Open Season in the Oilers Crease" so I think, oh finally their group is going to address the goaltending concerns, and instead it's Rishaug going on a rant about why the team didn't pound the Stars players after Skinner got bumped a few times and that's the big issue with this team. O....k

Rishaug again missing the forest and the trees. The team didn't respond to Skinner getting bumbed but DID respond after Pickard got rolled. That might say something.

I still think Skinner going up to the bench after being shit on a stick yet again and trying to break his stick in front of the players was performative. As in he cares or he's upset or something. He looks asleep half the time. That thing he does with his eyes trying to force them open is what most people do hauling a double shift on limited sleep. I bet this tosser is up every night playing MarioKart.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Sometimes goalies make big saves from prime scoring areas, the Oilers goalie makes far less than most.

If that were McDavid or Draisatl at the other end of the ice in that scenario do you think they wouldn't have buried it?

 

[barry halls]

fire bowman

As if the offer sheet fiasco wasn’t enough:

- He has the nerve to lie to our faces about it, saying it wasn’t at all possible to match either of them

- In the same interview he seems to suggest that Podz and Emberson are adequate replacements

- Defends the worst goaltending of any playoff team, doesn’t do anything to address it, and gaslights the fans by saying he’s been surprised that fans in Edmonton are so critical of it (we wouldn’t be if it was good Stan)

- Trades for an injured player who might not even play until playoffs, and pays extra for retention

- To add salt to the wound our captain says this (exact quotes) after the deadline:
“In the summer we lost a lot of size”
“I feel like Colorado’s got a brand new team, 2 new goalies, a bunch of new forwards”

Bowman has been an altogether terrible hire with no redeeming qualities. If we don’t make it out of the 1st round this year I hope they Katz strongly considers stepping in and fixing this mess.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Watched the game last night with a buddy who is more of a casual fan of hockey (huge soccer fan). He asked if the team’s bounceback play after Pickard was put in was them “sending a message”

Dumbfounding how management put their head in the sand all offseason and until the TDL about this

I thought so too. Interesting observation. Its like we have hope in net now. Pickard made some stops as well to keep it only 4GA.

Interesting as well how often Pickard has to come in on Skinner starts whereas Pickard has not finished a game only once.

The other thing with Pickard is he stops up and plays puck better. This aids our breakouts and makes it just a bit harder for Stars to get on forecheck. So Stars were just hanging back more. But Stars often do this where they think a game is over and then let clubs back in game.

 

[PitkanensGitch]

Rishaug again missing the forest and the trees. The team didn't respond to Skinner getting bumbed but DID respond after Pickard got rolled. That might say something.

I still think Skinner going up to the bench after being shit on a stick yet again and trying to break his stick in front of the players was performative. As in he cares or he's upset or something. He looks asleep half the time. That thing he does with his eyes trying to force them open is what most people do hauling a double shift on limited sleep. I bet this tosser is up every night playing MarioKart.

Him being incapable of breaking a stick does a good job of showing us the type of person he is honestly. As silly as that sounds.

Perfectly incapsulates him.

 

[Drivesaitl]

As if the offer sheet fiasco wasn’t enough:

- He has the nerve to lie to our faces about it, saying it wasn’t at all possible to match either of them

- In the same interview he seems to suggest that Podz and Emberson are adequate replacements

- Defends the worst goaltending of any playoff team, doesn’t do anything to address it, and gaslights the fans by saying he’s been surprised that fans in Edmonton are so critical of it (we wouldn’t be if it was good Stan)

- Trades for an injured player who might not even play until playoffs, and pays extra for retention

- To add salt to the wound our captain says this (exact quotes) after the deadline:
“In the summer we lost a lot of size”
“I feel like Colorado’s got a brand new team, 2 new goalies, a bunch of new forwards”

Bowman has been an altogether terrible hire with no redeeming qualities. If we don’t make it out of the 1st round this year I hope they Katz strongly considers stepping in and fixing this mess.

For decades I've kind of thougt this org is a social experiment on how inept an org can be in every possible way and still have fans beating down the doors and throwing their money at tickets.

I smelled the stench around the Steve Kelly pick when the org could've just said Shane Doan as the home fans were chanting with the draft being here. That whole event was like a sonic message on how the org had completely jumped the shark. I almost expected this org to get the McDavid pick wrong.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Him being incapable of breaking a stick does a good job of showing us the type of person he is honestly. As silly as that sounds.

Perfectly incapsulates him.

Futile.

 

[94 Oil Drops]

Listening to GYB and I see the headline of the video is "Open Season in the Oilers Crease" so I think, oh finally their group is going to address the goaltending concerns, and instead it's Rishaug going on a rant about why the team didn't pound the Stars players after Skinner got bumped a few times and that's the big issue with this team. O....k

LOL I can bearly listen to GYB anymore. Those hosts need to get off Skinner's meat and pay attention to the stats of the games.

Not every single loss this team plays is completely on Skinner but a large number of them are. Last night was a good example. He certainly isn't doing his part to give the other players a chance to get 2 points. It's been a very serious issue.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

For decades I've kind of thougt this org is a social experiment on how inept an org can be in every possible way and still have fans beating down the doors and throwing their money at tickets.

I smelled the stench around the Steve Kelly pick when the org could've just said Shane Doan as the home fans were chanting with the draft being here. That whole event was like a sonic message on how the org had completely jumped the shark. I almost expected this org to get the McDavid pick wrong.

It's an org that for decades has always acted like the smartest guy in the room. The classic "six rings" remark really is the epitome of organizational arrogance that permeates throughout the team. The only thing this team has done right in the cap era was win draft lotteries, a reward for their years of utter incompetence. Not something they deserved or earned, something that was gifted to them because they don't know a thing about building a championship hockey team. You look at the team's history in drafting, trades, and signings and its a veritable encyclopedia on how to poorly run a hockey team. The Stars grabbed Oettinger, Robertson and Heiskanen in the 2017 draft. We got Yamamoto and Skinner. Really says a lot, doesn't it?

 

[CupofOil]

If that were McDavid or Draisatl at the other end of the ice in that scenario do you think they wouldn't have buried it?

This is a weird strawman. Skinner isn't facing McDavid or Draisaitl level players every time there's a prime scoring chance.

 

[K1984]

Listening to GYB and I see the headline of the video is "Open Season in the Oilers Crease" so I think, oh finally their group is going to address the goaltending concerns, and instead it's Rishaug going on a rant about why the team didn't pound the Stars players after Skinner got bumped a few times and that's the big issue with this team. O....k

Someone needs to tell Rishaug to stop whining about this. Its ridiculous. It isn't 1998 anymore.

It really isn't that complicated. The NHL has effectively eradicated physical response by punishing the team responding to an equal or greater degree to the offender. It's categorically absurd that Walman got the same penalty for a face wash as Steel did for running the goalie, but the league has decided that this is how they want it to work. Group hugs and face washes are about the only level of response allowed, and even then that is 50/50 whether the idiots in stripes will square it or not.

The fact that he thinks this is a headline issue is insane. Had he not taken it upon himself to loudly whine about it and stir shit up in the post game, I doubt it's a topic of anyone's conversation today.

 

[Salvaged Ship]

This is a very odd situation, I could understand if Skinner was some proven veteran goalie with a track record of success but he has never been very good or proven anything. The playoff run last year must be what they are leaning on but its not like he was consistently great then. When you look at how he moves, he looks lost. The only thing I can think of is he is a talented guy on his knees at something other than stopping pucks.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

This is a weird strawman. Skinner isn't facing McDavid or Draisaitl level players every time there's a prime scoring chance.

No, he's not. But in this specific scenario he was left to his own devices against Wyatt Johnston who's pretty damn good at scoring goals. You give skilled players that kind of space and they'll make you pay. Look no further than the GWG in the 4Nations Cup.

 

[Salvaged Ship]

This is a very odd situation, I could understand if Skinner was some proven veteran goalie with a track record of success but he has never been very good or proven anything. The playoff run last year must be what they are leaning on but its not like he was consistently great then. When you look at how he moves, he looks lost. And he is getting worse. The only thing I can think of is he is a talented guy on his knees at something other than stopping pucks.

 

[BertMcDrai]

"The iceberg already hit, why are people discussing the iceberg, theres nothing we can do about the iceberg" haha. just kidding around, its no so bad. But jk aside people talk about it because its a huge X factor.

Yes it's big factor and we have discussed it all year...but right now there is nothing we can do, all we can do now is support this guy...wether it's deserved or not.

I have already stated at the beginning of the season that with that level of goaltending (I took his numbers from last season including playoffs) the last team won a SC in the 80`s.(I took sv% for this research).

 

[MoontoScott]

Sooooo, Carter Hart or bust in the offseason. Pending he is acquitted of course. Should come quite cheap, considering. Add him to Perry, Kane and Bowman...make us the ultimate villains...but potentially championship villains. I don't know...it's a hail mary that we might need to consider

Well if he is convicted then a No-move-clause might be unnecessary.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Yes it's big factor and we have discussed it all year...but right now there is nothing we can do, all we can do now is support this guy...wether it's deserved or not.

I have already stated at the beginning of the season that with that level of goaltending (I took his numbers from last season including playoffs) the last team won a SC in the 80`s.(I took sv% for this research).

You're a better guy than I am. With Skinner in net its got to the point of aggravating. Really if I didn't care so much about the team and the good players on this team I would be tempted to turn it off. Such a shame this is our starting goalie.

 

[Drivesaitl]

This is a very odd situation, I could understand if Skinner was some proven veteran goalie with a track record of success but he has never been very good or proven anything. The playoff run last year must be what they are leaning on but its not like he was consistently great then. When you look at how he moves, he looks lost. The only thing I can think of is he is a talented guy on his knees at something other than stopping pucks.

The org actually thinks, and has for a longtime, that Skinner is a fan favorite. They've used him in big splash advertising on their pages for tickets on website. This how deluded the Oilers are about what the fans want to be seeing. Large part of it is due to Skinner being one of the favorites here of the media. They just love the guy. They love talking to him. The media love Skinner more than the players do and half of me thinks its the media taking the piss treating Skinner like some kind of prize while asking Draisaitl why "he's so pissy".

 

[KlefDown]

As if the offer sheet fiasco wasn’t enough:

- He has the nerve to lie to our faces about it, saying it wasn’t at all possible to match either of them

- In the same interview he seems to suggest that Podz and Emberson are adequate replacements

- Defends the worst goaltending of any playoff team, doesn’t do anything to address it, and gaslights the fans by saying he’s been surprised that fans in Edmonton are so critical of it (we wouldn’t be if it was good Stan)

- Trades for an injured player who might not even play until playoffs, and pays extra for retention

- To add salt to the wound our captain says this (exact quotes) after the deadline:
“In the summer we lost a lot of size”
“I feel like Colorado’s got a brand new team, 2 new goalies, a bunch of new forwards”

Bowman has been an altogether terrible hire with no redeeming qualities. If we don’t make it out of the 1st round this year I hope they Katz strongly considers stepping in and fixing this mess.

it's clear that Bowman has no intention of helping this team win a cup.

he signed an injured player, traded for an injured player and I can't prove it yet but he probably injured McDavid somehow too


never ending cycle continues, can't wait for the off-season where a portion of the fanbase will continue to defend him and for some reason think that he is doing a good job. horrible hiring from day 1

 

[LTIR]

Paid Media is trying to make lack of physical response the biggest issue instead of blaming the goaltending knowing full well that Frederic and Kane will be back for playoffs and this wouldn't be an issue. All hail Bowman for his deadline acquisitions.

Goaltending will remain The issue!

 

[Drivesaitl]

- To add salt to the wound our captain says this (exact quotes) after the deadline:
“In the summer we lost a lot of size”
“I feel like Colorado’s got a brand new team, 2 new goalies, a bunch of new forwards”

Bowman has been an altogether terrible hire with no redeeming qualities. If we don’t make it out of the 1st round this year I hope they Katz strongly considers stepping in and fixing this mess.

Connor said all that? Holy crap I somehow missed that.

Yeah, with Bowman with his history an org should only hire that guy if in some way he demonstrated being best possible candidate and head and shoulder over others. That Bowman is so bad at even describing his process is damned concerning. Mostly that him and the Org don't even seem to realize what hot point issues are. He's walked right into landmines in some of his commenting.

 

[North]

Every team has brain farts, that's hockey, but it's amazing how the Oilers brain farts almost always end up in the back of their net.

Part of the problem is our goalie has most of the brain farts.

 

[Drivesaitl]

It's an org that for decades has always acted like the smartest guy in the room. The classic "six rings" remark really is the epitome of organizational arrogance that permeates throughout the team. The only thing this team has done right in the cap era was win draft lotteries, a reward for their years of utter incompetence. Not something they deserved or earned, something that was gifted to them because they don't know a thing about building a championship hockey team. You look at the team's history in drafting, trades, and signings and its a veritable encyclopedia on how to poorly run a hockey team. The Stars grabbed Oettinger, Robertson and Heiskanen in the 2017 draft. We got Yamamoto and Skinner. Really says a lot, doesn't it?

This is exactly it Keith. It is a tale of two orgs as well. Stars draft well.

The Lowe comments and that arrogant audacity. Its around the time I stopped buying tickets.

If this org just accrued all the assets that fell right into their lap they would have had a dynasty during the McDrai era. I mean just retain guys like Hall, Eberle, Perron and along with Nuge, McD, Drai just run with that. But this org always has brighter ideas.

 

[joestevens29]

Paid Media is trying to make lack of physical response the biggest issue instead of blaming the goaltending knowing full well that Frederic and Kane will be back for playoffs and this wouldn't be an issue. All hail Bowman for his deadline acquisitions.

Goaltending will remain The issue!

Think physical response is a pretty big concern.

Other teams continue to take liberties on our players, would've thought after McDavid got slashed that guys would step up but they didn't.