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Player Discussion Tim Stützle - (C) - Part VI

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Schmautz11 said:
Stutzle hasn't been the best guy on the ice for a while. The team has been on this recent tear with just flashes of decent hockey from him. He is not helping much and his high risk pass attempts and poor decisions (especially on the pp) are getting much too frequent.

His defense has been ok so it is good to see that but as Brady would say, let's go. He is supposed to be the guy. I am not seeing it at all these days.
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Giroux hasn't been able to keep up at all and Tkachuk has been injured and hot and cold as they come.

Stutzle has been the only consistent threat on that line.
 
ReginKarlssonLehner said:
Giroux hasn't been able to keep up at all and Tkachuk has been injured and hot and cold as they come.

Stutzle has been the only consistent threat on that line.
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Last 6 games:
Stutzle has 0 goals, 4 assists, -2 and 2 shots 19:19 TOI
Giroulx has 2G, 3A, even 8 shots 16:14 TOI
Injured Tkachuk. 1G 4 A -2 18 shots. -2 16:15
All have 2 points on the pp

Draw your own conclusions but all of them can play a lot better.
 
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Puikiou said:
Stützle's absolute REFUSAL to shoot the puck is getting very irritating.

Guy scored 39 freaking goals yet insists on being comically predictable by not being a dual threat.

Just simplify your game, take the f-ing shot when it's there and stop forcing passes all over the place.
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He could be a 50 goal scorer if he wanted.
 
0 shots in the last 4 games.

For comparison, he had just 3 games without a shot for the entire last season. And the season before that. What the.
 
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Puikiou said:
Stützle's absolute REFUSAL to shoot the puck is getting very irritating.

Guy scored 39 freaking goals yet insists on being comically predictable by not being a dual threat.

Just simplify your game, take the f-ing shot when it's there and stop forcing passes all over the place.
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Kinda like Spezza.
 
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PatrickEaves said:
Pretty sure his wrist is f***ed again.

Not only is he passing up shots, the shots he is getting off are nowhere close to where he is aiming.
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There is definitely something going here. Stu 2 first seasons showed a player who was as good goalscorer or playmaker. last 2 seasons we saw decline in his shot total and precision . He now completly lack confidence in his shot just rarely use it. He usualy shot only when he drives to the net or deke. Almost never shot in other occasions. When he does shoot, I have seen him make goaltender look unconfortable which shows that his shot is still good. Is it a way of playing fixed by coaching staff , the injury to the wrist last season, injured again? Maybe it's a mix of all these.

We saw Stutzle grow his all around game this season to another level, he looks decent now on the dot too am sure he will find confidence in his shot with time. His mates should help him and find him in a good spot with good passes he usually the first string of the offensive play which make him less likely to be the shooter. Same thing on the PP we don't use his shot or his actually good one timer. If Batherson had quicker legs he would be a perfect guy to set up Stu for shot as he has the 2nd best vision in the team ( ye Giroux is good too but he getting old).
 
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Schmautz11 said:
Zutterlund had 5 shots last night. That is more than Stutzle has had in the last 8 games. 18 might consider simplifying his game instead of trying to get on the highlight real every time he touches the puck.
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Doesn’t really have the explosiveness or no how to bring that puck to the middle of the ice.

His patented play is just driving wide and going low percentage short side.

He needs a guy who will do the shooting for him
 
Burrowsaurus said:
Doesn’t really have the explosiveness or no how to bring that puck to the middle of the ice.

His patented play is just driving wide and going low percentage short side.

He needs a guy who will do the shooting for him
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This seems to be a common theme on this team. While it is a team sport, this is one of the more popular excuses for under performers. His linemates or partner aren't helping. I was on Chabots ass for the last 3/4 years and a common excuse was because of his partner. While playing with better players should bring out the best in you, not having someone better is no excuse to make the same boneheaded , bad plays night after night. And he had plenty nights like that.

Stutzle doesn't have a shooter? Then go do the shooting himself. Or do something other than skating around the perimeter for a lap or two before losing the puck. Change what you are doing because it isn't working.

I'll just add that we have all seen this team play better. As individuals and as a group. Hope Green can start pushing the right buttons soon.
 
Schmautz11 said:
This seems to be a common theme on this team. While it is a team sport, this is one of the more popular excuses for under performers. His linemates or partner aren't helping. I was on Chabots ass for the last 3/4 years and a common excuse was because of his partner. While playing with better players should bring out the best in you, not having someone better is no excuse to make the same boneheaded , bad plays night after night. And he had plenty nights like that.

Stutzle doesn't have a shooter? Then go do the shooting himself. Or do something other than skating around the perimeter for a lap or two before losing the puck. Change what you are doing because it isn't working.

I'll just add that we have all seen this team play better. As individuals and as a group. Hope Green can start pushing the right buttons soon.
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We’ve seen them play. Better defensively for sure. Offensively they are what they are. No superstar or supremely talented offensive players

Have you seen stutzles shot? Theres
Nothing on it
 
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Burrowsaurus said:
We’ve seen them play. Better defensively for sure. Offensively they are what they are. No superstar or supremely talented offensive players

Have you seen stutzles shot? Theres
Nothing on it
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That's the whole point. No one has seen his shot.

But yes, he's not going to blow one through a goalie if he ever decides to try.
 
Schmautz11 said:
That's the whole point. No one has seen his shot.
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Touché

Schmautz11 said:
But yes, he's not going to blow one through a goalie if he ever decides to try.
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If you scroll done to the shot speed section, he’s actually good, not great, if he’d shoot.
Keep scrolling down for a further breakdown.
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At the 13 minute mark of the 3rd period last night, Stutzle ripped a shot on net that Reimer barely got a piece of. It was just bad luck; it knicked off the edge of his blocker, and went straight down. Seemed to be the story of the night for the Sens. But I think you guys are building up a false narrative that he doesn't shoot, or doesn't have a good shot, which is not true. He's trying to make things happen. It's a down year offensively for just about everyone on the team; probably a result of their greater play defensively.
 
BoardsofCanada said:
At the 13 minute mark of the 3rd period last night, Stutzle ripped a shot on net that Reimer barely got a piece of. It was just bad luck; it knicked off the edge of his blocker, and went straight down. Seemed to be the story of the night for the Sens. But I think you guys are building up a false narrative that he doesn't shoot, or doesn't have a good shot, which is not true. He's trying to make things happen. It's a down year offensively for just about everyone on the team; probably a result of their greater play defensively.
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I won't speculate on the why, but as I already posted, he's shooting less in the last 8 games.

His shots are down from ~2 per game to .5 per game, his shot attempts are down from >4 a game to about 2.4 a game, his scoring chances are down from 2.3 a game to 1.125 a game.

Now, I think that the talk about something wrong with his wrist has been going on for longer than the last 8 games, and I'd likely agree with you that it was a false narrative that he doesn't shoot prior to that, but recently there's been a big drop off, and that's spurred a lot of the talk I think.

Hopefully it's just mental, and he just has to reset and get back to what makes him effective. He's got a pretty good shot and would benefit from ripping it on net from time to time.


Edit: It's also worth noting, last game, he actually got back to shooting more, 2 shots and 6 attempts, so maybe he's figured it out already...
 
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