Player Discussion Tim Stützle - (C) - Part VI

[LuckyPierre]

Not unless Nashville is paying us assets to take on Stamkos.

Norris would be a good fit for them, but even if he got injured, they have assets to make moves and abuse LTIR the way TB and VGS did. We better be getting one of their 3 first round picks back and some other assets.

I hear ya. But don't forget that until the last two months, Norris was a liability, not an asset. Damaged goods with a long, pricey contract. And Stamkos was an asset, not a liability.

 

[bicboi64]

I hear ya. But don't forget that until the last two months, Norris was a liability, not an asset. Damaged goods with a long, pricey contract. And Stamkos was an asset, not a liability.

I wouldn't call Norris a liability as much as a huge risk, but point taken.

If management is going to move depth scoring, I'd prefer it be for someone a bit more reliable than Stamkos who is a great vet leader, but his production is god awful especially on 5on5 where we need help.

Stu and Brady are lighting it up on the PP, we need some more ES help

 

[LuckyPierre]

I wouldn't call Norris a liability as much as a huge risk, but point taken.

If management is going to move depth scoring, I'd prefer it be for someone a bit more reliable than Stamkos who is a great vet leader, but his production is god awful especially on 5on5 where we need help.

Stu and Brady are lighting it up on the PP, we need some more ES help

And Batherson too - he's leading the team in PP points.

Stamkos did score 40ish ES points last year, and about the same on the PP. This year, he's a black hole at ES, but I believe he's playing one line too high and is overburdened at centre. Shift him to the wing in 1A/1B situation and watch his ES scoring increase, especially with a gifted playmaker at centre to feed him shooting opportunities.

Anyways, this is likely moot as he'd have to waive, and before that, Nashville would have to be willing to trade him. They are in dead last, so that's not impossible, but it is improbable.

 

[Knave]

Wonder if he can play through whatever upper body injury he's going through. He was wincing after hits tonight and not as fast as he usually is or as patient.

 

[Xspyrit]

Stutzle is obviously in a tier of his own

Sanderson needs more time, for now he's in the tier with Batherson, Chabot and Tkachuk

You build around Timmy, Brady and Sandy.

That would have been fun to have more of these top picks during a long rebuild...

 

[darude]

Bonkers idea.

Stamkos for Norris. Similar salary/term.

Stammer rides Stutzle's wing and could snipe 30, while playing on PP1.

Pinto replaces Norris with Brady and Batherson. Greig Graduates to 3C.

Stamkos was surrounded with playmaking talent in Tampa where even last year he was a 40-40-80 winger. He's got little support in Nashville and is back to playing centre. Stutzle would bring out the best in him, and Norris would add much needed energy down the middle in Nashville.

This is not a terrible idea. My main concern is his contract sees him to 39 and I have no idea if he's gonna actually play well for those 4 years. Norris will be for sure good for those years, barring injury -- and even then there's LTIR considerations.

I think people are overvaluing Norris and looking at Stamkos' numbers this year as though they're representative of who he is now. But the problem is that unless everyone believes Stamkos is Ovechkin and will just be able to continue to pile up goals into his 40s, past this year or next he will not be as productive as Norris. Which makes the move kind of a desperation "get us into the playoffs" move.

We need to find a guy like Hyman was before last year, who can score about 25-30 without a Stutzle feeding them the puck and can translate that into 50+.

That or if NYR are blowing things up you go hard after a guy like Kreider (doubtful we have the assets to get him and that we're not on his no trade list).

Ideally though, Norris gets back to his pre-injury form and puts up 40.

 

[sena]

This is not a terrible idea. My main concern is his contract sees him to 39 and I have no idea if he's gonna actually play well for those 4 years. Norris will be for sure good for those years, barring injury -- and even then there's LTIR considerations.

I think people are overvaluing Norris and looking at Stamkos' numbers this year as though they're representative of who he is now. But the problem is that unless everyone believes Stamkos is Ovechkin and will just be able to continue to pile up goals into his 40s, past this year or next he will not be as productive as Norris. Which makes the move kind of a desperation "get us into the playoffs" move.

We need to find a guy like Hyman was before last year, who can score about 25-30 without a Stutzle feeding them the puck and can translate that into 50+.

That or if NYR are blowing things up you go hard after a guy like Kreider (doubtful we have the assets to get him and that we're not on his no trade list).

Ideally though, Norris gets back to his pre-injury form and puts up 40.

its a brutal idea, Josh is starting to find a roll and working on his defensive game, as far as forwards go he is 27th in hits and 21 in blocked shots, he is one of the faster skaters in the NHL and will score over 30 goals.
Stamkos is old and getting slower every day.

 

[OD99]

I hear ya. But don't forget that until the last two months, Norris was a liability, not an asset. Damaged goods with a long, pricey contract. And Stamkos was an asset, not a liability.

I give you props for a big name trade that isn't totally lopsided and could be considered.

Stamkos still has a lethal shot and could be a nice W for Timmy, although he would be on his backhand getting puck to Stamkos for the most part.

The term on Stamkos scares me off, as does the overall positive impact Norris has.

Also, Greig has regressed and while he can bounce back, I'm not sure I would add more responsibilities at this point.

 

[Senovision]

Timmy dangles like vintage Gilbert Perrault

 

[Dionysus]

Really liked his work to out battle Miller and come up with the puck off the tied up faceoff to start OT. Then a great rush and pass to set up his second straight OT winner.

Not dominating games right now, but is night in and night out the best player on the team. Playing a very good team game as well. Not trying to do too much and trusting that his teammates will do their part.

 

[bicboi64]

Really liked his work to out battle Miller and come up with the puck off the tied up faceoff to start OT. Then a great rush and pass to set up his second straight OT winner.

Not dominating games right now, but is night in and night out the best player on the team. Playing a very good team game as well. Not trying to do too much and trusting that his teammates will do their part.

I love how despite cooling down production-wise, he's still so noticeable on the ice. Looking forward to him randomly going on a goal scoring heater.

 

[JD1]

I love how despite cooling down production-wise, he's still so noticeable on the ice. Looking forward to him randomly going on a goal scoring heater.

The good news is we've got 5 guys that can get on a heater
Norris
Tkachuk
Stützle
Batherson
Pinto

If any one guy is one a heater at any time, things are good. 3rd and 4th line scoring has picked up a bit. Just need to keep it going now

 

[Senovision]

Tim should shoot more. He has a great shot and is accurate.
In 2022-23 he had 228 shots on goal in 78 games. And scored 39 goals.

This year in 34 games he has had 69 shots on goal and has scored 11 goals and is on pace for around 170 shots and 25 goals.

If he can shoot more he will see more biscuits in the basket. Sometimes he doesn't take the shot (like a lot of players) when it presents itself.

 

[Icelevel]

Tim should shoot more. He has a great shot and is accurate.
In 2022-23 he had 228 shots on goal in 78 games. And scored 39 goals.

This year in 34 games he has had 69 shots on goal and has scored 11 goals and is on pace for around 170 shots and 25 goals.

If he can shoot more he will see more biscuits in the basket. Sometimes he doesn't take the shot (like a lot of players) when it presents itself.

Came out of the gate shooting away. Doesn’t seem like he’s doing that anymore

 

[GCK]

We are a scoring winger short but the only asset I’d move is Greig.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Tim should shoot more. He has a great shot and is accurate.
In 2022-23 he had 228 shots on goal in 78 games. And scored 39 goals.

This year in 34 games he has had 69 shots on goal and has scored 11 goals and is on pace for around 170 shots and 25 goals.

If he can shoot more he will see more biscuits in the basket. Sometimes he doesn't take the shot (like a lot of players) when it presents itself.

Yup. He's got a really nice shot and it can keep defenses and goalies honest. Needs to use it just a little bit more and the game will open up for him even more.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Best player this seasons. Last 2 weeks he’s been a little meh.

 

[bicboi64]

I figured with Gaudette being off Stu's wing, Stu would shoot more but he's got too much of a playmaking mentality. Classic Spezza like problem.

Stu scored 30g earlier than Spezza did. If he decides to be a bit more selfish, he'll be a 40g regular.